Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by GeoTav

To finish, actually, I don't want us to spend 100+M, so I don't want 15 new players just because we also need to keep our identity ... we are Milan, we're not a club without any soul like Inter is (maybe was ?).

Cannot agree with that point... our 'identity' can not based on keeping burned out players forever and ever, Goddamnit.

Originally Posted by Nordahl

Cannot agree with that point... our 'identity' can not based on keeping burned out players forever and ever, Goddamnit.

We have to keep some basis ... let's be realistic, we can't buy 11 new players nor 22 new ones !! And anyway, even if we could, that would be pretty stupid to do that.

Changing the team doesn't mean firing/selling everyone: guys like Pirlo or even the joke Kaladze can still be usefull, contrarly to what some say here, but they have to be used properly (for Pirlo, giving him a new role in the team for example, and for Kaladze, he can stay and be a sub for CD/LD, not a starter, because if next year we have a new injury crisis and for example, it's Nesta-Silva-new CD who are all injured, we'll be happy to have Kaladze for some games).

For me, the guys who have to go in any way they want are:
- Dida (we need a promising GK as a sub for Abbiati, if possible someone already at Abbiati level to replace him in the next years), Kalac
- Maldini, Favalli (even if it seems he has extended his contract for one last year), Senderos (it's only a loan so ...), Kaladze if we are sure that we won't have any injury crisis again for a third year in a row (so actually, like I said, I would keep him one more year, just in case ...), Jankulovski (if we don't use him as a sub in midfield, let's sell him)
- Emerson, Seedorf, Ambrosini
- Shevchenko, Inzaghi (or keeping him but as the last striker of the list)

management has to take responsibility for our transfer failings, but carlo has to take responsiblity for poor team selections and tactics. No one forces him to play favalli when antonin is 2 times the player, or emerson when 10 players would be a better option. His time is up, whether the management have supported him properly or not, which they havent. unfortunately we are stuck with berlu and galliani for a long time.

it hurts me more to read some of you than the game we saw yesterday...

so we're out of UEFA cup and have had a mediocre season, full on injuries, with some decisions by Ancelotti that none of us understands (like Favalli over Antonini)... big deal!!!

Tony75 "unfortunately we are stuck with berlu and galliani for a long time"

wow, what short memory...

I wonder if some of you guys would make personal decisions also under these criteria...

Originally Posted by SANT

it hurts me more to read some of you than the game we saw yesterday...

Tony75 "unfortunately we are stuck with berlu and galliani for a long time"

wow, what short memory...

I wonder if some of you guys would make personal decisions also under these criteria...

Same for me, some people have a very short-term memory ... it doesn't hurt me more than the game itself because I love Milan, I don't love fans ...

Tony75 probably forgot that if we are where we are, if we have all these titles, if we are the most title-winning team, if we have such a brilliant history, it's also thanks to Galliani and Berlusconi.

So, some people here should take that in mind and show some respect for these people, it would be nice sometimes, even when they make a clear mistake. Respect ... seems to be a word that a lot of people forgot.

Originally Posted by Geotav

I'm sorry but Gourcuff was nowhere on the pitch when he played for us ... he didn't have a lot of time, and when he had, he wasted it, so he lost confidence and ... we know what happened next. He wasn't at his current level at all.

He wasn't at his current level because he wasn't given much of a chance to get there. Even if he had a couple bad games (more like bad 5 minute appearances...) I don't see why Brocchi a DM should EVER play over Gourcuff a creative midfielder. Especially when it was plain to see how well Gourcuff could play (pre-rib injury).

Players that should (leave, retire, sold, loaned, etc)

GK Zeljko Kalac
MF Clarence Seedorf
FW Filippo Inzaghi <-- This is tough. Not sure about this one
MF Emerson <--will get a yellow card when he is packing
DF Kakhaber Kaladze
DF Paolo Maldini (captain) < i love you man. Thank you for everything
Massimo Ambrosini (vice-captain
DF Giuseppe Favalli
DF Daniele Bonera


Becks and Sendros is not counted because they will leave anyways. Gorky must come back...

I kept Sheva as 3rd striker or even 4th striker to play Coppa games, or be put in for half games. I still have some faith in him and if its not proven sell him in Jan.

I would want to replace these exiting players with our youth team or young prospects that our very hungry. We have Gattuso, Zambro, Sheva, r80 etc to be the veteran support these young talents will need. Im not even close to the knowledge that most of you have on Futbol but this is my opinion and if there is a coach who likes taking chances to play exciting attacking futbol i want them @ Milan asap....



Forza Milan!!!!!!

Would love to know what you guys think about my list?

Report: Italian Magnate Michele Ferrero Wants Milan


Any truth to this?

To me, the key question is: So what?

Originally Posted by Jeff

To me, the key question is: So what?

LOL Thank you for taking the time to not answer my question.

You Moderating ****.

JUst trying to be fair here, but you must admit, over the past few yrs, Galli and Berlu were not as aggressive as before when it comes to Milan.

Pls don't use the Kaka thing as Berlu just showed his love for Milan....

Think about it, I am not saying they should spend crazy amount and buy the best player in each position. But at least buy players who are actually fit and can still play, on top of that offer contracts to players who can still perform. It is crazy to bring players that other teams do not want into our team and hope that they can regain their form, as if my memory serves me correctly only one person succeed-Cafu.
On top of that, why do Milan offer high wages to players who can no longer perform is beyond me.

Yes, Berlu and Galli are people we should respect due to their past deeds to Milan. But r they really doing their job? Actually, I really don't think Berlu should even comment about Milan as he has a country to run.

I really don't know how the politicial world operates in Italy, but I just can't see Obama, Harper or Wan being the head of state of one country and also comment on the affairs of a professional sports club.

As for Galli, I really don't know what to say about him as to me he is the ultimate fall guy for Berlu.

Originally Posted by Jeff

To me, the key question is: So what?

Well I'm serious: First, if he takes over, does it mean we'll have all the money we can spend? Does it mean Berlusconi doesn't care about Milan anymore? Does it mean Kaka` will be sold $120M for Man City or Real Madrid?

But my honest answer is: no I think it's just plain rumor.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

JUst trying to be fair here, but you must admit, over the past few yrs, Galli and Berlu were not as aggressive as before when it comes to Milan.

Pls don't use the Kaka thing as Berlu just showed his love for Milan....

Think about it, I am not saying they should spend crazy amount and buy the best player in each position. But at least buy players who are actually fit and can still play, on top of that offer contracts to players who can still perform. It is crazy to bring players that other teams do not want into our team and hope that they can regain their form, as if my memory serves me correctly only one person succeed-Cafu.
On top of that, why do Milan offer high wages to players who can no longer perform is beyond me.

Yes, Berlu and Galli are people we should respect due to their past deeds to Milan. But r they really doing their job? Actually, I really don't think Berlu should even comment about Milan as he has a country to run.

I really don't know how the politicial world operates in Italy, but I just can't see Obama, Harper or Wan being the head of state of one country and also comment on the affairs of a professional sports club.

As for Galli, I really don't know what to say about him as to me he is the ultimate fall guy for Berlu.

To be fair, they did try to bring in some quality players like Flamini and Pato. IT's easy to take them for granted. Having said though:

1) Beckham (now seem to be playing poorly at the moment)
2) Shevchenko
3) R80 (casting doubt now though he MAY be able to regain his fitness)
4) Favalli (in the first place)

These are just all wrong moves. Plain wrong. On the one hand, we want to have a transition; on the other hand we don't let go of players Shevchenko and that's truly problematic.

To be honest, having old + experienced players are not bad choice: but the management seems to have underestimated the term: injury. Younger players are less likely to get injured (though, I must admit, I don't know how Borriello, at the age of 2x, can be out for the year, while Kaka`, 26? has this on-and-off injury for almost a year now). Maldini is 40yrs old, for Chris sake, and they should have seen it coming that Milan's defense is going to be under heavy siege. Same for Nesta: He is just so unpredictable (in terms of his injury) that you shouldn't even count him as a player now until he fully recovers.

Senderos may have been a solution, but Milan is again trying to play safe and just loan him instead. No problem with that, except I wonder whether Milan is a victim of the recent financial crisis.

Kaladze is just disaster. He should just leave.

I appreciated Seedorf esp. after Wermen's game: His exit spells trouble for Milan: he is slow, yes, but he can keep and distribute the ball. That's important esp. when we have so many DMCs around (Gattuso, Ambro, Flamini).

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All in all, we need to keep having younger players, but first: Figure out what's wrong with Milan lab and the doctors. I cannot imagine they are not under the microsope of the bald man.

Agree generally.the seedoff part in particular.

Kalazhe can be our 4th CD or leftback sub.I especially miss his performance as a LB.

I am just going to take North American pro sports as example here.

If the team is talented and struggling, the Coach is the one who is going to get axe. Then if the team continues to make mistakes in acqiuring players and giving out contracts to underacheivers, the GM will get axe. I just don't see Galli ever getting us in Milan.

Anyhow, enough said, any rumors about Zapata in Italy? He should be pretty cheap as he just came back from injury and is surplus to requirment to Udinese