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Old 04-03-2009, 09:05   #481

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Carlo Ancelotti believes that David Beckham is technically and tactically better than Kaka and has told Ronaldinho that he should learn from Paolo Maldini and Clarence Seedorf.

The AC Milan coach was in frank and forthright mood when he explained why is so keen to keep Beckham at the San Siro, and how the player has improved since his days at Manchester United.

While the Rossoneri continue to try and prise the England midfielder away from LA Galaxy on a permanent basis, Ancelotti has not held back in his praise.

"He made a good impression on me with his performance and character," he told French football magazine, So Foot.

"On the field Beckham is the first to see everything. His vision is better now than when he played at Manchester United.

"He is slower than Kaka, but he is tactically and technically better and is also very intelligent and hard working."

Ronaldinho was next in line for Ancelotti's critical analysis, and the coach stated that the Brazilian should use Maldini and Seedorf as examples of how to be professional.

"Players like him do everything based on talent. I have trained a variety of magnificent players and the majority think that they can make the difference with their talent alone," he continued.

"That is not true In the modern game if you do not stay in great physical condition and are not working in training then it is hard to shine during matches.

"Maldini has been a professional for 20 years and has never ever complained while training.

"[Seedorf] is one of the most important players. He is like a 4x4 and wherever he plays he never loses his level. He always does his job very well."

Ancelotti then explained that Yourri Gourcuff may not return to AC Milan after his loan spell with Bordeaux finishes in the summer, but admitted that only psychological problems prevented him from making it at the club.

"I do not know if he will come back to Milan. He is a good player, but he had problems. He wanted to prove himself a lot and that hindered what he gave to the side," he added.

Lucas Brown, Goal.com


GeoTav, or any other person who knows french could you find this interview (on So Foot magazine) and clear if Goal.com is translating it right? I'm finding it a little hard to believe.


Maybe he's talking about a different seedorf but he's definitely not talking about the seedorf currently playing for AC Milan
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:08   #482

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In my opinion, our team this year isn't all that bad.. we've always had problems in defense in the past years, but given the fact ancelotti has quality players like ronaldinho pato kaka seedorf pirlo, he's done a terrible job with quality like that in attack, in my opinion we either need to replace ancelotti with the addition a good cb and possibly someone else in the midfield, or in the case ancelotti stays we'd need to buy a player capable of golden ball abilities for every position, even a spot on the bench so no matter who he plays they play good. I think the main think ancelottis been doing wrong is giving too much time to our old timers in big games, but if you break it down he really has no choice.. we've had many injuries and ronaldinho kaka pato and a few others are our only players, kaka being injured same with nesta pirlo picking up a slight injury before too so you cant put the full blame on ancelotti, as far the mercato goes we could bring alot of talent into the squad with rijkaard on board in my opinion hes the best choice if we wer to sack ancelotti, he won much with barca and left them unstoppable although you can't look at it that way seeing as he had the likes of messi ronaldinho a load of capable forwards and when puyol and marquez were in top form you have many choices and young talents to put on the field

Imagine another coach like Rijkaard with these talents like...
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Frank Rijkaard isn't immune nor is a stranger to the complacency that is haunting our squad at the moment. His last year at Barca was facing similar problems we're facing now. He won't be very different from Ancelotti though I'm sure he's allowed to function normally, he can reverse Carlo's errors and bring a new era of success at Milan.

However, during his tenure at Barca, he was given a lot of freedom at the club but that most probably wont be there at Milan so it's kind of difficult to predict what'll happen if he comes here.
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ABout the wages cut, all we have to do is cut Dida, Sheva, Favalli, Emerson, Kaladze and Seedorf, Kalac with Maldini retiring and thats like about 40M-50M before tax.

If Berlu is complaining then he should have really look back at why he gave Dida a huge contract as he was crap and giving out contracts to the like of Emerson who makes 8M before tax and just sits on the bench.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:50   #485

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Maldini actually earn very little... Dida & Sheva are those who take a lot of wages. Not sure about Emerson & Favalli.. Seedorf oh ya...
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:57   #486

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Frank Rijkaard isn't immune nor is a stranger to the complacency that is haunting our squad at the moment. His last year at Barca was facing similar problems we're facing now. He won't be very different from Ancelotti though I'm sure he's allowed to function normally, he can reverse Carlo's errors and bring a new era of success at Milan.

However, during his tenure at Barca, he was given a lot of freedom at the club but that most probably wont be there at Milan so it's kind of difficult to predict what'll happen if he comes here.
Rijkaard has never convinced me as a coach. Apart from his stint at Barca, his record is fairly mediocre. The way his Barca side waned in the last few months of his tenure is a more enduring memory for me than his success with the club.
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True.. it's one of the things that worries me is that he's not that experienced as a top manager. But he's relatively young and he's been growing. He's only managed

1. Dutch National Team when he took them to the semis of the euro 2000. (good achievement I think).
2. Some small club at the dutch league which got relegated for the first time after he managed them
3. Barcelona

If he was 60 then it wouldve been different but he's like 45 yrs old. Plus he plays as a unit so this individualism in our squad would recede which I think is crucial to Milan's revival. Another prospect is that he might be able to bring back R80 to his best.. wouldnt that be awesome!
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I don't think Frank is the answer to Carlo. We missed the chance of having the Special One or Lippi last summer. Too bad that Berlu and Galli did not even try to get JM.
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Actually I believe Milan were one of the favourites for the Scudetto this season after last summer's market and the fact we had no CL this season.

The fact of the matter is, with the squad we have and no CL, we should have challenged for the title until the very end.
Well, possibly there was such talk in Italy or maybe even in England. I don't know. All the Serie A previews and such we saw over here (mainly on FSC, which has the exclusive Serie A rights) they were talking as though Inter had the title virtually wrapped up before the season began and Milan would do well just to get back to the CL. (They were right, of course.)

I know that I said before the season started that the main goal for me was to get back to the CL and that anything after that was gravy. But then I'm more patient than most.
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I don't think Frank is the answer to Carlo. We missed the chance of having the Special One or Lippi last summer. Too bad that Berlu and Galli did not even try to get JM.
Special one ? he is no special at all and his football tactics aint this special too. maybe man management, handling things is okey but other than that he is merely an average coach.

now i agree we need a change but there is a big problem, there is no better coach out there available.

P.s: Lippi is as lame as Moggi
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I don't think Frank is the answer to Carlo. We missed the chance of having the Special One or Lippi last summer. Too bad that Berlu and Galli did not even try to get JM.
He isn't the right man for our squad. Plus his football is unbelievably boring most of the times and Milan are a good passing team which he would destroy for sure.

He may be Special at getting results but other than that he's a long ball twunt who knows no respect for others. Do we really need an arrogant man like that at a club like Milan? Didn't it seem appropriate that he ended up at Inter after Chelsea? They're two teams who have players bigger, stronger and more boring than any other team out there.
My guess is he's headed for either Real or Liverpool after this, two other cocky clubs. We need a manager with some flair and skill in his game.
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NT manager of Ivory Coast has declared that Ancelotti is or high on weed or drunk as he doesnt behave professional towards his collegues that run other clubs or teams publicly saying he wants to lead their teams ( Roma, I.Coast ).

Mourinho sucks totally, he was only 111 home games in a row without a loss. What a prick, we dont need that. We need nice guys... Boring dont be offended, its not a joke on your account.

And I will send you some suggestions on PM about your question you asked me in there.
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If I were Ivory Coast NT manager now, I would probably say the same thing. It's a good indication that he is REALLY worried that his job will be taken over by Ancelotti.

But ya I thought it was inappropriate too to some extent; Roma obviously won't be bothered by passing comment like this but if you are an Ivory Coast mangaer,... umm...
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If I were Ivory Coast NT manager now, I would probably say the same thing. It's a good indication that he is REALLY worried that his job will be taken over by Ancelotti.

But ya I thought it was inappropriate too to some extent; Roma obviously won't be bothered by passing comment like this but if you are an Ivory Coast mangaer,... umm...
The problem isn't that it is Roma or Ivory Coast, it's more about the guy coaching ... Spalleti knows he's as good nowadays as Ancelotti, so the declarations of Ancelotti, a friend of him (let's not forget that too), won't bother him.

But nowadays, the Ivory Coast coach is Vahid Halilodzic, a coach known for his methods of training, everything is about discipline ... he's not known for his amazing results, nor for any job in a big club. He was even fired by some of his clubs. So, when a guy like Ancelotti says he wants your job, you can only be angry and afraid ...

PS: If their coach was Hiddink, Scolari, they wouldn't care too ... (guys who won titles with national teams or made miracles with some of their teams).
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Why do people think Beckham is technically great? There's little he can do beside crossing the ball. His movement is decent not exceptional. Ditto for his passing. Beside that, he has little to offer. And he certainly isn't up to the technical level Seedorf, Pirlo and R80 posses. With those abilities, you have to be tactically good or you'll be called David Bentley instead of Beckham.
Carlo only compare b32 and kaka,I don't think there is a gap between these 2 technically,KAKA's speed make the difference.

B32 is a very very average player physically,no speed and no weight.he compensate with his tactical awareness,decipline,tireless running(only physical strength can be mentioned) and accurate crossing.he is a perfect team facilitator,does all the tiny foundimental thing for gaining superioty against opponents.an unsung hero type in team sports.I think he is among the world top few tactically.
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