Summer mercato 2009

Carlo asked for 2 WC players or he will leave.

Originally Posted by kakacmilan best

Carlo asked for 2 WC players or he will leave.

So says gazzetta, with no quotations. Always post the source, by the way because otherwise you will get 6 posts asking for the source.

I wish that were true, but Carlo will probably stay. And we will not sign anyone big this summer.

To the posts regarding Sheva. Sorry yes, I think he is on loan and I made a mistake when typing about him (as Rick said the lack of proper details in regards to his transfer made things confusing).

Therefore we will need to spend on a striker, though it's possible we could sell others deemed surplus to requirements (Ambro?) to fund this.

Originally Posted by Siregar

No one thinks that a WC striker (physical one) is also much needed? We can't only depend on Pato. If he's out and boom!, we have no striker except Boriello who is average player (despite his overrated season with Genoa) and injury prone Inzaghi who plays only 10-15 games in a season.

If Pato is fit, we still have problem to break a defensive-minded tactcic from mediocre teams. As many have mentioned, a big striker could help us to do better against such teams.

A world class striker is needed based on how we intend to play next season. Personally, I think our most balanced games this season have been with a back 4, Pirlo, Beckham and Flamini in midfield, Seedorf behind Kaka who is supporting Pato. Therefore, my ideas are based on a system where Gourcuff is given a chance to interpret's Seedorf's role. If we intend to play 2 forwards all season, then we will need a new forward that can play in the first team as a regular, with one of Seedorf, Gourcuff or Dinho being sold. On the other hand, if our strategy is to let Kaka support Pato, then we will need a forward, but not necessarily one that commands a starting spot every game.

However, the next season, Becks will be gone and replaced by Gattuso who wouldnt offer the same options on the field that Beckham does and so the system has to be different from what it has been this season.

He provides natural width (which is a factor contributing to a stable system) and after he goes, there is a risk of slipping to the old system of the Christmas tree that we saw before Rino got injured.

Obi Mikel is a free player in the summer. For me that could be a normqal choice since he is a versatile, young and quality player for bought for nothing.

Yoan is free, Marchetti has a low clause (4mln I think), Abate is ours, Maxwell could be a pretty cheep player considering he is a valuable fullback...

Papres say Carlo has again asked for two players or he will leave: Alex and Adebayor or Eto'o.

Imaggine Milan gets Marchetti, Nesta fit, there's Thiago, Abate, Yoan, Mikel, Maxwell, and POSSIBLY one or two "big" players coach ased for.

That looks like its too much, but it does not ask for big money and its quite possible and, as far as Im concerned, a smart mercato.

Originally Posted by kakacmilan best

Carlo asked for 2 WC players or he will leave.

I think it's great to see that Carlo is finally showing some cojones. I think generally the club would be much better of, from a sporting point of view, if the coach had more control over the transfers. That's one of the big reasons for the decline of Calcio as of late in my opinion, bad transfers because of General Managers who don't necessarily know exactly what the team needs.

His choices seem odd though, according to channel4, he wants Alex and Adabayor/Drogba. Alex is fine, would definetly think an Italian CB would be better with the whole 6/5 rule lurking, but given his current status at Chelsea it would be a decent transfer. Adabayor is terrible though, a one season wonder, he's simply not good enough considering his value, and he's hardly an upgrade from Borriello. Drogba, though a great striker, is to old and would be a bad choice in the long run the way i see it.

Anyways, anyone read about the suposed Trezeguet/Seedorf - swap? http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/trans...ce-seedorf-swa

sounds like a pretty good deal for us, and for Juve for that matter.

Originally Posted by mrki

Obi Mikel is a free player in the summer. For me that could be a normqal choice since he is a versatile, young and quality player for bought for nothing.

Yoan is free, Marchetti has a low clause (4mln I think), Abate is ours, Maxwell could be a pretty cheep player considering he is a valuable fullback...

Papres say Carlo has again asked for two players or he will leave: Alex and Adebayor or Eto'o.

Imaggine Milan gets Marchetti, Nesta fit, there's Thiago, Abate, Yoan, Mikel, Maxwell, and POSSIBLY one or two "big" players coach ased for.

That looks like its too much, but it does not ask for big money and its quite possible and, as far as Im concerned, a smart mercato.

yeah nice and smart mercato but this gonna cost big money which i doubt we are gonna do.

marcetti? we have kalac and dida to ship off dida WONT join a smaller team due to his huge salary new castle was interested in him let us hope we sell him for 4 mil to get marchetti out of this deal. kalac send him to spain for 1 million.

alex is avery good player but it really scares me to have 2 brazilians cbs. we are linked to at least 10 cbs Agger, lucio, alex, cris, gallas, mexes, santacroce, ivanovic, kjaer, bovo, canini and palermo #80 (the ugly face).

Maxwell i am not sure inter will want to sell us this player and he is not as bad as some think, if you have ever watched 2007 inter games you will change your mind but once again inter wont sell and he wont come cheap 10 mil, i'd take Clichy for the left back, with clichy we have a very strong power on the left. and i doubt janku will want to be a sub for him. roma likes janku, but i'd keep him for the midfield .

Obi mike is indeed young and useful but we need to ship off one of gattuso, flamini or ambrosini (emerson is gonna go) i doubt milan will want to sell any of those but we as fans will want to sell ambrosini . fiorentina always wanted him but once again i doubt we are gonna sell. gattuso, flamini, ambrosini, Obi mikel is too much dms (who will want to be 3rd and 4th choiche) though i know ancelotti wouldnt mind 10 dms.

Abate it depends on torino and the player him self. torino might go to serie B. and if not they want Gourcuff and inzaghi as a part of the exchange. and abate knows he isn't a first team choice for ancelotti unless he adjust to a wide defensive midfielder.

Gourcuff its looks more possible that he is coming back but what scares me that milan will exchange him with a player gourcuff-maxwell gourcuff-clichy which is a very stupid move gourcuff is at least worth 35 mil hes 22 national team starer and with so much talent(he benched nasri and ben arfa). and if he stays 3 of our current midfield will have to go seedorf , emerson and beckham/ambrosini.

upfront sheva is leaving as milan are willing to pay 13 mil to chelsea, and we are linked to adebayor and etoo, the later will be cheaper if he decides to leave other wise adebayor will at least cost 30/35 mil.

such mercato is at least cost 60 mil is a normal budget considering the amounts of wages milan are about to cut. but we all know milan will not spend such amount.

P.S Happy bday Sandro now he is 33 with back problem, getting back to his best looks impossible to be achieved.

abbiati zambrotta santacroce thiago silva clichy gattuso pirlo flamini kaka pato etoo/adebayor

thats the strongest team in the world, this is a dream team

From acmilan.com:


ADRIANO GALLIANI: "Kakà is not for sale, Milan careful about the opportunities"
3/19/2009

MILAN - Adriano Galliani, whose phrases from yesterday were referred to the Italian situation in general, and not specifically to Milan, had an interview with the Gazzetta dello Sport today, published on page 8. This is the passage of the interview reserved in particular about Milan: "Kaka is not for sale. Our fans must be serene. Milan do not need more reinforcements than other teams. Apart from the strong Thiago Silva, another defender will arrive. And anyway, Milan will be careful about the opportunities which will be present."

I think that also Mourinho will try to sign his ex-player at chelsea Mikel.And i think he will have the advantage on that.

So Carlo (if its true) has waked up and demands what should he demand coaching a world class club,....... world class players.
But is he sayιng those things because he knows that he can go to Madrid if he wants to, and he can use that as an excuse if berlu do not do his wishes?

Whatever happens i can see us competing again next season for the 2nd or 3rd place with Inter 1st with many points above us.
If we need a world class LB do you know what is going to do Berlu and Galiani? They gonna put zambro LB and they will buy Panucci on free of course as a RB.
This is our genious managment, buy crap not needed players and make a crap team because i can't spend anymore after 20 years so many euros just on a team.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

From acmilan.com:


ADRIANO GALLIANI: "Kakà is not for sale, Milan careful about the opportunities"
3/19/2009

MILAN - Adriano Galliani, whose phrases from yesterday were referred to the Italian situation in general, and not specifically to Milan, had an interview with the Gazzetta dello Sport today, published on page 8. This is the passage of the interview reserved in particular about Milan: "Kaka is not for sale. Our fans must be serene. Milan do not need more reinforcements than other teams. Apart from the strong Thiago Silva, another defender will arrive. And anyway, Milan will be careful about the opportunities which will be present."

Galiani? Ye he is not for sale, but he accepted Man Citt's offer to sell Kaka.Idiot. I don't trust him for nothing.

Originally Posted by boring

However, the next season, Becks will be gone and replaced by Gattuso who wouldnt offer the same options on the field that Beckham does and so the system has to be different from what it has been this season.

He provides natural width (which is a factor contributing to a stable system) and after he goes, there is a risk of slipping to the old system of the Christmas tree that we saw before Rino got injured.

True, but I've already suggested a change in shape of the midfield in the Pirlo thread. I only meant that our greatest balance this season was found when we played the side with an extra midfielder. Personally, I think it's a starting point to build on.

Originally Posted by boring

However, the next season, Becks will be gone and replaced by Gattuso who wouldnt offer the same options on the field that Beckham does and so the system has to be different from what it has been this season.

He provides natural width (which is a factor contributing to a stable system) and after he goes, there is a risk of slipping to the old system of the Christmas tree that we saw before Rino got injured.

That is when Abate comes into play...I think Abate can offer what Beckham has...He should certainly come back

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

True, but I've already suggested a change in shape of the midfield in the Pirlo thread. I only meant that our greatest balance this season was found when we played the side with an extra midfielder. Personally, I think it's a starting point to build on.

I agree with your opinion about putting Pirlo more forward compare to his role now. Flamini and Pirlo can build and manage the play. Regarding the 2-striker formation and Flamini-Pirlo partnering, I think it's better for us to use that formation (two strikers) as we will have just more space upfront, also more chances to score and the trio Flam-Pirlo-Rino will be a very good help for our defenders. But I have to stress that we need a WC striker otherwise the chances will be useless or even the situation could force Carlo to use a single-striker formation.

If we can get a solid left fullback, like you posted in Gourcuf's thread, we can play Gourcuf on the left side like he did in the early months of his stay with Milan or even take Pirlo's suggested new role. This only will make very good competition for our midfielders : Flamini, Gattuso and Pirlo even Kaka since Gourcuff can play also behind the two strikers. We have seen how excellent Gattuso's improvement this season. Flamini's arrival must play some (if not whole) important role on that.

So, I still think we should play with 2-striker formation like we did before 2006/07 and only use christmas-three formation in certain games. The proofs are already there (season 2002/03 until 2005/06 both in Serie A and Champions League).

In my opinion what kind of WC players Milan need (a must) to be able to really compete both in Serie A and Champions League are :
1. Two WC central defenders (or one WC CD plus one solid left/right fullback)
2. A WC forward, big/physical striker much preferable
3. A WC creative/offensive midfielder

Some other decent players can be added to substitute injured players, out-going players and retiring players.

The WC players must cost us much but that will be our investation for the next 5 years and that will be worth IMO.

I really dont think Milan wiull pay for Clichy. He is an expencive player. Maxwell could come with a small fee to Inter. Milan and Inter are in good terms, dont let the papers fool you.

And Yoan, Abate, Thiago...its all almost 0 euro this summer. Abate is co-owned and it will be solved. You cannot sariousely think Torino will ask for Pippo or Yoan, its not possible in this universe.

In any case, after reading some italian comments lately from gazzetta.it,caliomercato etc., I have found that HUGE ammount of Rossoneri in Italy ask for Berlusconi to sell the club if he doesnt want to invest and supporters ask for real investments.

Galliani says one more CB? Thats great, but it will not solve our problems with slow midfield, unfit Dinho, Pirlo, Seedorf who cant play more then 10 good games per year, MArek as LB, Ambrosini whos form is dropping rapidly etc.

Also Carlo wanting one class CF means clear NO to Ronaldinho in Milan as a serious first 11 player. Its pretty obvious. no Dinho or Eto'o/Adebayor will sit on the bench in big CL games.

On the sidenote: Eto'o>>>Adebayor...

P.S.

Seedorf for Trez - any day. But it is not possible.