Summer mercato 2009

Its great how Galliani is in simphony with Milan's coach and how Milan brings in 24 year old CB who, when is fit, is a sub for Favalli. And that CB was supposed to be a good CB to play if Nesta cant. Its just a circus, you have to laugh.

Then Galliani says that its not his fault Senderos broke his finger and that he is a very good player...Senderos gets fit and - who yould say, sits on the bench behind Favalli.

And all his bragging about Beckham, like we signed Gerrard ( by me, right now no.1 player on Earth ). I can bet Gourcuff can play level above right now for Milan.

I hope they will be serious and bring serious players in the summer: Cb, fullback, midfielder ( Gourcuff ) and forward. And those who cant run or dont want to fight hard on training can go away and buy themselves a ball and dribble and walk in their backyard with their friends or sone or whatever. That goes for Seedorf, Pirlo and Ronaldinho who I defanded all season long but still cant run normally.

I understand what poster "Carlo Ancelotti" says, that dinho is behind his top and that we'll never run like that again and that is now still good player even with this capacity. But, maybe this ronaldinho isnt the player Milan needs. Maybe he really cant play and train seriousely anymore. If thats the case, he can leave. I have no personal feelings about him, to me he is just a player of ac Milan. Unlike Maldini, Gattuso, Kaka', Inzaghi.

i honestly think we should ONLY keep Gatuso, Pato, Kaka, Flamini, Zambro, Antonini, Bonera and the two new brazilians who cant play till next year and get rid of, CARLO and replace him with Riikard... and the others can be auctioned... replace Galiani with Leonardo...
we cant compete anymore in the modern game with Galiani !!!!

Good Post MRKI... Gerrard is the best player in the UNIVERSE this season... only if Gattuso could score goals...

common, are u serious, gerrard best player in the universe, ....
think again......

Great post Mrki, mate you are in my head, i have the same thoughts.
By the way for the "finished" players i have talked.
Of course Dida and Kalac are not finished.Of course not, they still can play.They are good GK's.
But in that forum are we supporting and talking about Albinolefe,Rimini or Madova?
We are talking for Milan, and for Milan those players are finished.
Dida and Kalac can play easily and be one of the best players of the Albinolene,Rimini or Madova, but for Milan just forget it.

tgcom.it have a rumour that Real want Gourcuff, if they offer S.Ramos in exchange i would consider it.

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

Great post Mrki, mate you are in my head, i have the same thoughts.
By the way for the "finished" players i have talked.
Of course Dida and Kalac are not finished.Of course not, they still can play.They are good GK's.
But in that forum are we supporting and talking about Albinolefe,Rimini or Madova?
We are talking for Milan, and for Milan those players are finished.
Dida and Kalac can play easily and be one of the best players of the Albinolene,Rimini or Madova, but for Milan just forget it.

oh common don't exaggerate ,
1) Dida is way better than Kalac,
2) i don't know what did Dida do wrong for you, but for me he is still a great goalkeeper, he's tall, and has a great reflexes and he saved our ass for many times just like abbiati did... but, u r right that maybe he is not a material for Milan, because of his age, and his lack of confidence ... but i think that u r way way wrong when u say that he is material for Rimini or Mantova, common, ..... i think dida could play in Roma, Lazio, Udine, or Genoa... and kalac for chievo or reggina......

Dida will do his job untill the end of the season and then he can go. He is payed 4mln per year i think. Once he was maybe the best player in the world, but now, unfortunately, he is not needed in Milan. Milan cant have 34 (?) year old GK payed 4mln per year who cant save **** on the bench.

About Gerrard: People talk about Ibrahimsson, Messi, C. Ronaldo like they are gods. I watch the game and I think "do people actually look at Steven Gerrard for a second and what this man actually is doing for past 2 years??" I love the way Xavi plays, Maicon also, Del Piero, I adore Kaka' ( if we look at pure class, the best player in the world when fit ) etc. But Gerrard plays every role in midfield, even as a second striker. Runs like hell, assists abnormally, shoots abnormally, scored in big and small games from all positions, defends and leads the team. I claim him to be corrently world's best player, and I stand behind that. He is never quiet, is a great professional and a real fighter that has a class and shoot of clear class.

People are bragging about C. Ronaldo and Ibra and Messi...ok. But this man carrie whole team on his back and doesnt have phases of dissapeariing ( those three do ). Gerrard is a monster. Forza Gerrard.

And Madrid needs a player like Gourcuff in the middle, I wouldnt be surprised but I would be extremly sad. All the papers say Yoan is hardly to come back, and that will be ( if it happens ) a big miss for us.

Gerrard DOES dissapear - have you ever seen him play for England? Gerrard is a great player, the best English player by some distance, but (to me, anyway) Messi is clearly the best in the world. I'm with you on Cronaldo and Ibra, those guys dissapear in the big games. Messi, however, always rises to the occassion, as much as any player - like when he scored a hattrick in el clásisco when he was still a teenager.

There's a good reason why Gerrard rarely dissapears: he plays right in the middle of things, whereas Cronaldo and Messi are on the wings/up front, and Ibra is up front - they're bound to be less involved.

Gerrard has a great shot on him and he's a great leader (and a great diver, too). But his passing isn't all that (compared to Xavi, Iniesta, old Pirlo) and the same goes for his technique. Of course as long as he keeps scoring goals, that doesn't matter. Just remember he's often playing as a supporting striker these days, so he's bound to score goals. And remember that 2/3 of that hattrick against Villa was penalties.

No man, I dont judge Gerrard by Villa match. Its only one game.

His technique is not a smooth as Messi's, Xavi's or lets say...Seedorf's. But its not important. By "dissapearing" I mean underperforming, not playing at highest level at big occasions. I dont mean " not touching the ball oftenly".

Gerrards passes are very good, its just that his stile of passing is different then Xavi's for example. The stile or passing and shooting of Gerrard is very sharp, less with finesses like n Pirlo, Xavi, Seedprf, Dinho...

And lets not forget Ibra is IN THE MIDDLE of everything in Merda. Every vertical ball is his, he can move where he wants and do what he feels like. He has freedom and he simply dissapears in big games...its probably in the head of Ibra. Never scored a goal behind groups in CL, played 24 italian derbyes and scored 8 goals.

Last thing: To be fair, aldough I dislike England NT coz of the way they think of themselves as eternal favorites for something and only god knows why, Gerrard will play great once he gels with Cappello's tactics. Untill now there was complete mess in England tactical wise, in past lets say 6 years. It looked like Lampard and Gerrard cant play together and all bunch of other stuff that were appearing just coz England never had a normal manager but some clowns.

Now Im 100% sure that Gerrard will start taking leading role in England midfield. Aguess time will tell.

Again, my oppinion is that Gerrard is NOw the best player in the world. If I could pick one player for Milan I'd pick him.

I know you're not judging him on the base of one game, it's just that after he scored that hattrick there's been so much hype about him, even more than usual.

I don't watch every Liverpool game, far from it (they're usually quite boring), but even I've seen a few bad performances for Gerrard this season, not fewer than I've seen from Messi - and I've watched every single Barca game this season.

As for Ibra (not that I feel like defending him, as I certainly rate him below Gerrard), it's true he's the focal point of Inter, but especially in the United game at San Siro he had very little service (as for some reason Mourinho wanted to play without any link between midfield and attack, even though they were playing at home).

Like someone already mentioned we've been heavily linked with Simon Kjaer recently. I guess it's good news, but he's not gonna be a starter in Milan, not yet at least. He's 19 years old, and has played quite alot of games at Palermo, but not a given starter. So i guess he's ment as a potential star.

Regarding Gerrard, he's definetly the best english player, and perhaps the best player in England, but the way I see it Barcelona have a couple of players way above his level. I don't see what Gerrard offers that Iniesta don't. he's MILES ahead in terms of technique, can dribble almost as good as Messi, has a deadly shot, runs alot, and most of all, he's just as versitile as Gerrard. Iniesta can, like Gerrard, also play second striker, and CM. Watch Barcelona with Iniesta and watch them without him, it's no coincidence that they go from losing to Espanyol, with Iniesta injured, to destroying Malaga and Lyon.

Also comparing Messi and Gerrard is silly. They're not even close to having the same style, but i'll bet that a player like Messi comes around less often than a player like Gerrard.

Originally Posted by Christian

Like someone already mentioned we've been heavily linked with Simon Kjaer recently. I guess it's good news, but he's not gonna be a starter in Milan, not yet at least. He's 19 years old, and has played quite alot of games at Palermo, but not a given starter. So i guess he's ment as a potential star.

Regarding Gerrard, he's definetly the best english player, and perhaps the best player in England, but the way I see it Barcelona have a couple of players way above his level. I don't see what Gerrard offers that Iniesta don't. he's MILES ahead in terms of technique, can dribble almost as good as Messi, has a deadly shot, runs alot, and most of all, he's just as versitile as Gerrard. Iniesta can, like Gerrard, also play second striker, and CM. Watch Barcelona with Iniesta and watch them without him, it's no coincidence that they go from losing to Espanyol, with Iniesta injured, to destroying Malaga and Lyon.

Also comparing Messi and Gerrard is silly. They're not even close to having the same style, but i'll bet that a player like Messi comes around less often than a player like Gerrard.

My opinion.Do you know what Iniesta can't do that Gerrard does.
Gerrard can make great defence in midfield area or everywere he plays, iniesta can't do that in Gerrard's level.
Second Gerrard in better than iniesta in the air.
And third Gerrrard can play in all positions of the field, RB,LB,CB,ML,MR,Striker, everywhere.He can play in many positions more than iniesta.

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

But in that forum are we supporting and talking about Albinolefe,Rimini or Madova?

We are talking for Milan, and for Milan those players are finished.

Dida and Kalac can play easily and be one of the best players of the Albinolene,Rimini or Madova, but for Milan just forget it.

This makes no sense. What are you talking about by "supporting Albinoleffe, Rimini, Madova..."? No one even mentioned that.

Putting aside the usual whining about his contract for a moment, I don't get why Dida should get the boot just like that after this season when we kept Fiori around forever and paid him for playing one game in 20 years. It won't kill us to let him finish out his contract and keep him around for one final season, as he still has what it takes (i.e., UEFA Cup). He can't be lumped with someone like Kalac, who hasn't played at all save for half of the Hanover friendly. You dump two GKs in the offseason, then good luck signing someone who's willing to warm the bench as third-choice.

Lastly, I really dislike this pompous "we are Milan, only elite players need apply" mentality when we have wastes of space like Seedorf, Sheva and Senderos clogging the roster.

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

My opinion.Do you know what Iniesta can't do that Gerrard does.
Gerrard can make great defence in midfield area or everywere he plays, iniesta can't do that in Gerrard's level.
Second Gerrard in better than iniesta in the air.
And third Gerrrard can play in all positions of the field, RB,LB,CB,ML,MR,Striker, everywhere.He can play in many positions more than iniesta.

Gerrard's defensive skills are overrated (although superior to Iniesta's). Imo Gerrard isn't more versatile than Iniesta. Let's get one thing straight: Gerrard NEVER plays as a centreback, fullback or a defensive midfielder. Maybe when he was a youngster, but not in later years. I'm positive Iniesta has played DM more than Gerrard over the last, say, three years. And it's not just about where on the pitch he could be placed, it's also about how he performs there. And Iniesta is a far better wide player than Gerrard, I really don't see how that could be debatable. Gerrard is a bigger threat in front of goal, as he's got a more powerful shot, and a better "striker's instinct" than Iniesta. In other words he's more selfish (not meant in a negative way), whereas Iniesta is virtually selfless, and thus a better provider.