Summer mercato 2009

I just can't imagine that Inter would sell Maxwell to Milan. I don't care what the papers say. I don't care what Maxwell's agent says. It just defies logic to think that Inter would sell him to Milan. They would let him go somewhere else at a cut rate long before they would let him cross the San Siro. The only way I can envision Maxwell moving directly from Inter to Milan is if he waits until his contract runs out and moves for free.

A few thoughts on the Gerrard debate:

1, Nobody (aside from maybe some of the most ardent Liverpool fans) was mentioning Gerrard as "best player in the world" until Zidane did so recently. Now everyone seems to be jumping on the bandwagon.

2. Gerrard is a terrific player who is capable of moments of absolute brilliance and who seems to come through in clutch situations in big games, but he also seems to disappear a lot. How many people were calling him the "best player in the world" when Liverpool was drawing against Stoke City or losing to Spurs earlier in the season?

3. He's never accomlished much at the international level. He's been, in fact, rather average. I had to laugh a few nights ago when I heard an English-born football commentator who had suggested last fall that Gerrard be dropped from the England First XI in favor of Ashley Young jump on the Gerrard "best in the world" bandwagon.

4. Let me tell you all a secret. There is no "best player in the world." Kaka isn't. Messi isn't. Cristiano Ronaldo isn't. You name him, he isn't. They are all great players who may be in better form than the others at any given time, but the idea that you can say that Messi is actually better than Kaka or vice versa is ludicrous. True greatness is something that is achieved over time. It's not a flavor of the month. Any of them might be the best player of a particular season, but that doesn't really make them actually a better player than the others.

Originally Posted by Rick

4. Let me tell you all a secret. There is no "best player in the world." Kaka isn't. Messi isn't. Cristiano Ronaldo isn't. You name him, he isn't. They are all great players who may be in better form than the others at any given time, but the idea that you can say that Messi is actually better than Kaka or vice versa is ludicrous. True greatness is something that is achieved over time. It's not a flavor of the month. Any of them might be the best player of a particular season, but that doesn't really make them actually a better player than the others.

Very good point.

Two things:

First: I never heard that Zidane mentioned Gerrard as the best in the world, this is news for me. But even better, Zidane surely knows what he is talking about.

Second: yuor conclusion is wrong as we talked about who is the best player right now. And, in my oppinion, its Gerrard.

If we talk about big players, then none of them can stand by Dek Piero's greatness for example. No matter how good they play now. But that wasnt the topic, so aldough I understand your point, it missed the topic of the conversation.

Also, I didnt write it in here as it never accured my mind to talk about him, but L'pools results vs Stoke etc few months ago do not influence my vision of Gerrard as Gerrard, not as L'pool player.

On thze NT subject, it was already discussed and you'll all see how Gerrard will play in WC. Just remember then. Cappello will make him play like he can. england had clown after clown on the bench. Maradona couldnt play in there.

And dont listen to Englist commentators, they thing Crouch was one of the best strikers in the world and in most cases talk **** for 90 min. More yelling that smart analising. I once saw a game at the afternoon with english commentary of some cup game, and later on watched Milan on rai uno with Cappello as co-commentator. Its like you dont watch the same sport.

England com. :" great shot!...what a fighter!...uhhh....bad tackle by the lad...its a tough cross..."
Rai uno:" the variations of the formations are extreme with Milan lately...bla,bla..."

Im just saying. Better to watch the game muted sometimes.

On Maxwell: his agent said they will pay out his contract and he'll be a free player. Inter cant do **** then.

Originally Posted by Rick

I just can't imagine that Inter would sell Maxwell to Milan. I don't care what the papers say. I don't care what Maxwell's agent says. It just defies logic to think that Inter would sell him to Milan. They would let him go somewhere else at a cut rate long before they would let him cross the San Siro. The only way I can envision Maxwell moving directly from Inter to Milan is if he waits until his contract runs out and moves for free.

I don't think the relationship between Inter management and Milan management is as bad as many would think. Maybe they would prefer to sell to someone outside Italy or the top four, but I think they're gonna be indifferent towards selling to us, Juventus, Roma or even Fiorentina, I just don't see why they wouldn't be. It is afterall a business, and truth is that they're gonna have to sell this summer, since there's no way they're gonna pay for his wages for a year, and then have him leave for free, when they have buyers this summer.

His agent has made is clear that he is not gonna renew in 2010, and in the end, it's gonna be the player who decides where he goes. If he wants to join us, then Inter has no choice, but to sell, or pay his wages and have him leave for free a year later.

Originally Posted by Blacktop

I was, but I got sick of that username and Jeff changed it for me.

Ah, explains the love for Dida. I don't suppose you're SquireD (or something like that) on Xtratime are you?

Sorry to all for going off topic, promise this is the last question I ask about this

I think it's reza who helped you chg...

Originally Posted by mrki

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Im asking from Milan to do their work seriousely, starting from building the strategy together and with precise planning. Without money "laundring" on players like emerson etc.

LOL

Why are we being link with Kanuote and not Gomez and other 20something striker is beyond me?

To be honest, if this continue, we will just be Inter-the laughable loser in Series A for the next decade.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Why are we being link with Kanuote and not Gomez and other 20something striker is beyond me?

To be honest, if this continue, we will just be Inter-the laughable loser in Series A for the next decade.

Gomez has effectively disappeared off the map since the Euro 2008 because of his shocking performances. Also, when I see him these days he doesn't seem to have the same confidence he did before the Euros and essentially doesn't seem the same player.

Kanoute, despite being 31 has been very good at Sevilla in the past few years, forging a fantastic partnership with Luis Fabiano.

Either way, we're more strongly linked to Eto'o and Adebayor than we are Kanoute.

I just read Gomez' stats and he doesn't seems having a bad season (someone who follows Stuttgart can probably give views). He has scored 14 goals with 6 assits from 24 games of Bundesliga this season (last season 25 games, 19 goals and 3 assists), 8 goals + 2 assists in 10 games in UEFA Cup and 3 goals from 2 games in DFB-Pokal (German Cup).

It could be that his performance is dropping this season, I only look at from stats and he still looks fine to me.

He and Edin Dzeko should be cheaper than Adebayor. From physical point of view I prefer Edin Dzeko but I am still not convinced if he is not a one-season-wonder striker. However as a third striker I'll choose him over Boriello.

Originally Posted by mrki

Two things:

First: I never heard that Zidane mentioned Gerrard as the best in the world, this is news for me. But even better, Zidane surely knows what he is talking about.

That's fine, but surely you've heard others talk about it since Zidane did. And while I don't take Zidane's opinion lightly, it's only an opinion.

Second: yuor conclusion is wrong as we talked about who is the best player right now. And, in my oppinion, its Gerrard.

But did you think Gerrard was the best player in November? If not, will he be the best player in May or in August? And if he's only the best player in March, what's the point? Being the player who is in the best form at the moment doesn't make you the best player in the world. It only makes you the player who is hot. When Pippo scored a hat trick recently was he the best player in the world for those two hours? Was Ashley Young the best player in the world when people were calling for him to replace Gerrard in the England lineup? He was certainly in better form.

I just think "best player in the world" arguments are pointless. It's like the "bigger club" (or as I like to call it "bigger penis") debates. Everyone can make their own case and ultimately nothing is decided, so what has been accomplished? It's just a waste of time.

Originally Posted by Christian

I don't think the relationship between Inter management and Milan management is as bad as many would think. Maybe they would prefer to sell to someone outside Italy or the top four, but I think they're gonna be indifferent towards selling to us, Juventus, Roma or even Fiorentina, I just don't see why they wouldn't be. It is afterall a business, and truth is that they're gonna have to sell this summer, since there's no way they're gonna pay for his wages for a year, and then have him leave for free, when they have buyers this summer.

His agent has made is clear that he is not gonna renew in 2010, and in the end, it's gonna be the player who decides where he goes. If he wants to join us, then Inter has no choice, but to sell, or pay his wages and have him leave for free a year later.

But there are so many other clubs out there who would be willing to pay for him, why would they sell to Milan? It's true that players have moved from Inter to Milan before, of course, but not at a time when Inter was the most powerful club in the league. At this point, they have the upper hand on everyone else. They can sell him to Spain or England or Germany or to a mid-table Italian club. The only way I can envision Inter selling him directly to Milan is if Milan were willing to pay well over the market price for him. And given the current attitude toward spending by Milan's management, that seems highly unlikely.

Originally Posted by Rick

I just think "best player in the world" arguments are pointless. It's like the "bigger club" (or as I like to call it "bigger penis") debates. Everyone can make their own case and ultimately nothing is decided, so what has been accomplished? It's just a waste of time.

Isn't finding out who has the bigger penis rather simple?

Though, of course not on an internet forum...

EDIT: Regarding Maxwell, if the players wants Milan and no other club (hypothetically) then Inter can't force him to go to another club. And in the end, from what I understand, he can just buy out the remainder of his contract and then go wherever he wants.

Originally Posted by Ceceves

Isn't finding out who has the bigger penis rather simple?

Though, of course not on an internet forum...

EDIT: Regarding Maxwell, if the players wants Milan and no other club (hypothetically) then Inter can't force him to go to another club. And in the end, from what I understand, he can just buy out the remainder of his contract and then go wherever he wants.

The trouble is most don't have the balls to actually whip it out anyway.

Well, hypothetically, if Maxwell was determined to play for Milan and no other club -- and if his contract allows him to buy out the final year -- then, yes, he could buy out his contract and sign for Milan. But is his heart so set on Milan that he wouldn't consider playing for any other club? I doubt it. And would he be willing to dig so deep into his own pockets? I have my doubts about that as well. And even if that happened, it would not be a case of Inter selling him to Milan. It would be a case of Maxwell, himself, circumventing the system to make the move.

I hope I'm wrong about Inter and Maxwell because I'd like to see him at Milan next season, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Originally Posted by Rick

The trouble is most don't have the balls to actually whip it out anyway.

Well, hypothetically, if Maxwell was determined to play for Milan and no other club -- and if his contract allows him to buy out the final year -- then, yes, he could buy out his contract and sign for Milan. But is his heart so set on Milan that he wouldn't consider playing for any other club? I doubt it. And would he be willing to dig so deep into his own pockets? I have my doubts about that as well. And even if that happened, it would not be a case of Inter selling him to Milan. It would be a case of Maxwell, himself, circumventing the system to make the move.

I hope I'm wrong about Inter and Maxwell because I'd like to see him at Milan next season, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

I think what Maxwell's agent is talking about when he mentions 'buying out' the contract is the webster ruling. It allows him to buy him out of the contract for a fixed amount. I'm pretty sure that amount would be repayed by us in a signing on fee, if he moved to us.

The obvious reason why he'd wanna come to us is that he wouldn't have to move, or adabt to a new country. If he has a family it would be convinient just to change the colour of his shirt, instead of moving country.

Anyways, only thing that is for sure, is that he's not gonna be at Inter next year, let's just hope he'll be at our club then.