Summer mercato 2009

This is another interesting question that you raise, marcovb:

Pirlo depends on others to play well, but others also depends on Pirlo to play well (you can have Inzaghi, kaka` all running in front but no one sends the ball up, which happens when Pirlo is out).

It's really a matter of interdependence; again not fair to just speak of an individual.

2nd Place Doesnt Matter to Galliani Cause hes a lunatic and doesnt want an automatic cl spot wish i could bash his bald head

and suprise suprise milan wont be spending big in the summer as usual

the current situation didnt have what it took to win the uefa cup never mind the champions league _

were screwed

I think with the new rules all the first 3 places are automatic spots. The only differences between third and second are the intangibles such as pride, morale etc.

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl...id=788373.html

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• The 2009/10 access list has been changed according to the following principles: 22 teams (21 teams + the titleholder) qualify directly for the group phase instead of 16. The three national associations with the highest UEFA coefficient ranking will each have three teams who gain automatic entry to the group stage, with the countries ranked 4 to 6 in the standings having two automatic qualifiers and the associations ranked 7 to 12 having one.
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hmmm when you put it that way _ suppose 3rd isnt as bad as it seems

Who I would really get from Palmerias is Lenny, he is the man.

Galliani acts disugustingly as our gm, but if we got moggi i'd seriously stop my support of Milan with Berlu in charge. moggi has robbed Milan of many titles since he's being involved in football sinc Napoli in 1990 onwards.

He's not a good scout as he cheats through gea or whatever their called to fix players destinations.

i would like to see Pirlo in a squad that never stops running... unlike our current walking Milan...

Just imagine a squad that's constantly moving, Pirlo is pretty much the only 'quiet' player, spraying passes left, right n center...

I think we'll see the real Pirlo then...

THats why I think Pirlo should play in the EPL, b/c almost all the teams there play a running game.

Originally Posted by mrki

Jeff and ACMILAN1983, I will explain all the details and elaborate futher lately coz I dont have time right now at this mment. Just wanted to say sorry if I misunderstood some parts of your posts. That stuff oftenly happens in forums so people in the end talk different things.

Still I just want to say Im NOT for Pirlo's sale! But just for making him work harder and if needed benching him when Pirlo is not at his top. Coz when Pirlo is not on his top he creates problems to his team due to his fragile phisical presence in the middle of the field. When team is underperforminh Pirlo will not raise the team, but will fall down with it. He plays well when players around him play well. Someone compared Pirlo and Kaka's influence - dont do that.Etc...

I'll explain further in some other post.

I don't mind misunderstanding points, I just hope we're clear. If Pirlo isn't performing, then yes, he should be benched. But right now, he's not the first I'd look to remove from this team.

As for Pirlo not raising the team. Again, it's based on how we use him. In his current role, he has to rely on players around him moving into space as his primary job is to distribute the ball and dictate play. If the players aren't moving, which is pretty much the case in Milan for almost 3 years now, he has no targets to pass to and his game suffers. However, in 2002 he was the main reason we got into the CL for 2003 after some incredible performances behind the forwards. Without a doubt that season he did raise the level of the team.

Paloschi scored again for Parma. He must come back and compete with Borriello for starting eleven. And don't give that bull****, that he is not ready for Serie A. He was ready last year, when he immediately scored against Siena and he is twice as ready now.

Your wrong greg. none of our youth are ready. Even Antonini at 27 isn't ready as conf by seedorf and carlo a few weeks back.

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

I don't mind misunderstanding points, I just hope we're clear. If Pirlo isn't performing, then yes, he should be benched. But right now, he's not the first I'd look to remove from this team.

Well some things about some half-players are so obvious that I didnt even mention them. Players like Favalli, Seedorf, Senderos, Kaladze, Emerson, $hevchenko etc. are the ones that need to go first.

But Pirlo is being considered one of the best DM's in the world by some of the guys in here, and he plays below every standard. In fact I dont think Pirlo played more then 3 world class games this year, no matter who he plays with. That is NOT a normal behaviour of a player who is considered as good as Fabregas, Xavi, Iniesta, Xabi Alonso etc. Im just asking it to be fair: Pirlo sucks this year in 9% of cases, and we played our best football with Rino-Flamini-Seedorf ( See plays well in the beggining of the year before the idiot Carlo decides to play him in 60 games in a row and destroys his fitness condition ... ).

I now clame that Milan would play its best football next year with Rino-Flamini and Yoan in the middle. Pirlo can play IF he raises his movement level on the level he was 3 years ago. If not, I dont see why he would play. This is not a game of friends, its professional squad.

Actually a flat four of Gourcuff, Rino, Flamini, Kaka would be our best option for next season, esp if Kaka wants box to box players. Only Rino of that 4 would hang back a bit more.

Originally Posted by mrki

Well some things about some half-players are so obvious that I didnt even mention them. Players like Favalli, Seedorf, Senderos, Kaladze, Emerson, $hevchenko etc. are the ones that need to go first.

But Pirlo is being considered one of the best DM's in the world by some of the guys in here, and he plays below every standard. In fact I dont think Pirlo played more then 3 world class games this year, no matter who he plays with. That is NOT a normal behaviour of a player who is considered as good as Fabregas, Xavi, Iniesta, Xabi Alonso etc. Im just asking it to be fair: Pirlo sucks this year in 9% of cases, and we played our best football with Rino-Flamini-Seedorf ( See plays well in the beggining of the year before the idiot Carlo decides to play him in 60 games in a row and destroys his fitness condition ... ).

I now clame that Milan would play its best football next year with Rino-Flamini and Yoan in the middle. Pirlo can play IF he raises his movement level on the level he was 3 years ago. If not, I dont see why he would play. This is not a game of friends, its professional squad.

I don't think we'll ever agree on Pirlo, so I guess we should just agree to disagree. I just don't particularly like the whole name-droping of players calling them poor thing.

Generally I think we need to give some credit where credit is due, and show some respect. Like Favalli as an eksampel. So many times have I seen him getting slamed on these forums, and I just don't think it's justified. I think we all can agree that he's no Daniel Alves as a full back, or a Baressi as a CB, but let's face it, he's performed WAY above what anyone was expecting from him this year. We shouldn't necissarily keep him, but we should show some respect to a player that for once is performing better than what we expect.

I respect Favalli ( Favalli was a grat player when he was young ) but he has nothing to do in Milan. Im sorry but that is truth. Galliani is planning to prolong his contract according to tottomercato...it just has no sence.