Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by Ceceves

It's not about nationality, it's about stating the facts: Laursen is (a little) taller than Senderos! Maybe Senderos is heavier - I don't know. I'm sure Laursen has a lower body fat percentage than Senderos, but is that a bad thing?

PS. I now see that according to some websites Laursen is a little shorter than Senderos , but really what matters is how how he makes use of those centimeters, and from what I've seen, he's more dominant in the air than Senderos.

I agree that Laursen is a better defender in the air (or even much better). Senderos is bigger than Laursen but still Senderos still can't offer the quality in the air like Laursen did with Milan. But what makes me like Senderos than Laursen,as already stated by others, is that his mentality when he steps into the game. When he plays, he looks like he is the starter of the club from mentality point of view. Even in his debut game, he played comfortably even he was not in his best fitness and made some mistakes because of it.

I will keep him for backup if Milan can buy him much lower than the price circulated in the press (8 mil pounds/euros).

I cannot believe you will keep Senderous as backup for us. Thats bascially shows the quality we been having as CB since Stam left and thats not too long ago.

Senderous to me is byfar the second worst option for us in CB and thats mainly b/c Kaladze is the worst option.

If we are serious about competiting for the league and CL, we can't afford to have someone like Senderous on the team.

To me, we actually need at least two more CBs for next year as Nesta is not coming back and even if he is, he needs at least 6 months to get back to his old self.

My dream is Santacroce and Zapata but that probably won't happen. Most likely we will sign Agger and either Miranda, Felipe or Canini.

Record deficits, more than 50 million euros in Milan's budget to be approved today in the assembly of members. Failure to participate in the Champions League this year will weigh on the campaign next purchase, but the treaty is only for Adebayor frozen until June.

I think this is good news but we need opinion from Economist lol

Originally Posted by rinogattuso

Record deficits, more than 50 million euros in Milan's budget to be approved today in the assembly of members. Failure to participate in the Champions League this year will weigh on the campaign next purchase, but the treaty is only for Adebayor frozen until June.

I think this is good news but we need opinion from Economist lol

Kidding ?
There are two ways to understand it:
- they voted a "50M transfer budget" (purchases+wages) so we have a deficit of 50M
- we lost a lot of money this year (at least 25M from the non qualification to the CL) and so we won't be able to pay tons of millions this summer

I think it is the second solution ... or a combination, we lost for example 25-30M this season, and they voted for a budget of 20-25M for the next mercato, which leaves us with a 50M deficit ?

Wages are difrent story they arrive from another way!!Seson tickets 30-40 mil. where that money goes..?etc..Berlusconi pocket..

I don't understand ec. language but I know whith 100% sure that form TV-rights,sponosrs,CL we can have around 30 milions and form Finininves ???

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

I cannot believe you will keep Senderous as backup for us. Thats bascially shows the quality we been having as CB since Stam left and thats not too long ago.

Senderous to me is byfar the second worst option for us in CB and thats mainly b/c Kaladze is the worst option.

If we are serious about competiting for the league and CL, we can't afford to have someone like Senderous on the team.

To me, we actually need at least two more CBs for next year as Nesta is not coming back and even if he is, he needs at least 6 months to get back to his old self.

My dream is Santacroce and Zapata but that probably won't happen. Most likely we will sign Agger and either Miranda, Felipe or Canini.

Who do you think it's better option (from quality point of view) for our backup (not starter)?

If we can get one or two good-great CBs then we will play like : Silva-CB-CB-Zambro. Maximum we can only have 3 good-great CBs and we can't afford the backup for them are the same quality with them.

Originally Posted by rinogattuso

Wages are difrent story they arrive from another way!!Seson tickets 30-40 mil. where that money goes..?etc..Berlusconi pocket..

I don't understand ec. language but I know whith 100% sure that form TV-rights,sponosrs,CL we can have around 30 milions and form Finininves ???

Berlusconi has given money, but legally, he can't take money from the club "to put it in his pocket" ...

What is Finininves ?
Yes it's what I said, with CL (so TV rights etc), you earn about 25-30M ... we didn't have these 25-30M this season !!

[quote=rinogattuso;528971]Wages are difrent story they arrive from another way!!Seson tickets 30-40 mil. where that money goes..?etc..Berlusconi pocket..

I don't understand ec. language but I know whith 100% sure that form TV-rights,sponosrs,CL we can have around 30 milions and form Finininves ???[/QUOTE]

No worries, the management will find a way to piss all that money away so we have no money to spend on the market again.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Berlusconi has given money, but legally, he can't take money from the club "to put it in his pocket" ...

What is Finininves ?
Yes it's what I said, with CL (so TV rights etc), you earn about 25-30M ... we didn't have these 25-30M this season !!

My friend you miss the point! Brlusconi gives FROM his pocket to players wages not all but..

You first time hears for Fininvest main Milan sponsor last decade..?!?!

Fininves is the holding company of one of the world’s leading media groups with a leadership position in commercial television and cinema, through Mediaset and its subsidiary Medusa, in publishing, through Mondadori, as well as in sport, through A.C. Milan.. Berlusconi gives his money and Fininvest constatly evry season.

Fininvest Group has concentrated mainly on its core business with over 15 billion euros in investments.Fininvest is a financial holding company controlled by Silvio Berlusconi's family. The Fininvest Group is composed by many important companies like mediaset etc.

Originally Posted by rinogattuso

My friend you miss the point! Brlusconi gives FROM his pocket to players wages not all but..

You first time hears for Fininvest main Milan sponsor last decade..?!?!

Fininves is the holding company of one of the world’s leading media groups with a leadership position in commercial television and cinema, through Mediaset and its subsidiary Medusa, in publishing, through Mondadori, as well as in sport, through A.C. Milan.. Berlusconi gives his money and Fininvest constatly evry season.

Fininvest Group has concentrated mainly on its core business with over 15 billion euros in investments.Fininvest is a financial holding company controlled by Silvio Berlusconi's family. The Fininvest Group is composed by many important companies like mediaset etc.

I think we completely misunderstand each other because it's what I said ...
Berlu has given money directly from his pocket, I just added that he didn't take money from the club for himself as it can't be legal (whereas Italy has special laws).

Seriously, about Fininvest (I didn't make the link between Fininves and Fininvest , sorry), I knew that name, but I didn't know it was the name of the firm of Berlu. I thought the name was Mediaset, so you teached me that actually Mediaset is just a part of Fininvest ... ^^

Supposedly, we're prepared to sell Gourcuff to finance Miranda (I read it on goal.com I think). Hopefully just rubbish. We're also apparently after Felipe from Udinese.

rinogattuso can you provide a source for this transfer bugdet please?

Firstly, my understanding of it is we don't know the deficit. The paragraph says there are record deficits, but it doesn't say what that deficit is. It then suddenly says that there will be an agreed budget of more than 50m euros. Does that mean that we will have a deficit of 50 million euros? Then what precisely is the bugdet for? It just says it's a 50m euro bugdet, which doesn't specify what for. For all we know, it's 30m euro for transfers, 5m for milanlab, 5m for some other department etc. There's very little sense in that first sentence.

Next, the CL part. It is unclear whether it's trying to say that failure to participate in CL this season will affect our transfer market OR whether it's trying to say that failure to participate in CL next season will affect our transfer market. Finally, that bit about Adebayor makes no sense.

Basically, it's poorly written, and the way it's written makes it appear to be sensationalist. On top of that, I doubt a club like Milan (and probably any club) will publicly let their buget be known. It's poor business strategy when we're in a market trying to negotiate "cheap" deals. Essentially, it sounds most likely that this is just some rubbish dreamt up by the media.

Milan is one off the most powerfull clubs on planet!! Berlusconi is give tu us so much and he must have our respect! just look at Millanelo and MilanLab that is NASA technology..supreme!!

Maldini is reteirment 31.5. I think that was a biggest event of that kind ever..on that day we will heard who will be next sucesor lol..that's impossible!!

For me most corectly source MILANNEWS.it

Com'n guys financial politics in Milan are behind closed doors..what a deficit and :S:S look at the salaryes of our players!!

Kaka 9 mil. Dinho 7 mil. Sheva 6.5 Flamster 5.5 mil. Gattuso,Nesta,Seedorf,Pirlo,Dida,Kaladze,Inzaghi form 5-3.5 milions per season etc...

On the list pf 20 mostly expensive playes by the wages Milan have 8 HAHAHAH!! Grande Favalli earns like Fabregas cccccccc

ACMILAN1983, so sorry. I've though that you want to see Santacroce playing regularly as a right back.

If it goes about physical characteristics I can argue with you, but there is no reason to do it. ;) What I would like to say is that I don't think that Santa is faster, but he's more lively and active than Bonera, who is static. But the main problem is - have you ever seen Santacroce's crosses? I haven't and we don't know how he can do it. Santa is very unpredictable in bad way of this word understanding.

Summing up - I'm against making a right back from Santacroce. It will be crazy option to buy player and change his role so much.

Let's wait to the mercato. :)

Personally, I dont give a **** about money stats. AC Milan has so much money that, as Beckham rightly sayd: "money is not an issue in here.".

Wages show that.

Only problem in Milan is that Galliani MISSED a LOT of transfers and a lot of money went nowhere. Our coach/medical/milanello in general also mistreated a lot of players and we missed CL so we lost more money etc.

AC Milan is one of the biggest clubs in the world together with Barcelona, MAdrid, Juventus, United... if we cant invest 50-60 mln in the summer like a big team to fix the tean that is apparently too old and not working well then **** them all.

Im not asking for 5 super star players, but for serious behaviour. 2,3 great players(Thiago is already here, plus one Cf and one more CB and Beckham to stay), Yoan and 2,3 young ones. New coach and serious work. That will not cost too much. Galliani said something like that will happen...

As it looks to me, we could be in the bid for Trez.