Summer mercato 2009

"Religion is what keeps the poor from killing the rich." -- Napoleon

Hegel said for him that he is Freedom on a horse riding through the Europe.

Didnt notice the quote before, its nice. Sorry for the off topic.

latest rumours (albeit from goal.com) are Spalletti is making plans to join Milan. He agrees with the club's push for Adebayor and wants Di Natale too. Berlu apparently wants him to revive Dinho's career.

All good and well, but where's the mention of defenders, which should be the club's top priority right now (and the priority of any new coach joining the club) and really whilst Di Natale is a good player, at 32 we really shouldn't be focused on getting him. If there's any truth to this (which I doubt), then I really must question Spalletti coming in. As for Dinho's career, the player must do his all to revive it and the coach can only use him if he fits into the tactical set up and is performing.

Spaletti will not be the new coach of Milan. Ancelotti will sta for at least another year, I'm 100%.

The Italian media wrote a lot of things today. First of all, we are intensifying an approach for Lille defender Adil Rami. He's 23 years old, 1.90 m and 90 kg. Does anybody knows anything about this guy. Second I read that Roma is allready looking for a replacement for Mexes, who will wear a Milan jersey next year. Then there is Agger, who again didn't want to renew with Liverpool.

I also read tha Marco van Basten advised us to buy Ajax striker Luis Suarez.

And I also red that Valencia joined the race for Parma midfilder McDonald Mariga. I think we should offer Parma one more year of Paloschi and some small cash for this player. Because I read that he is very very good.

Now that its almost certain that Ibra will leave Inter, why cant we make him join us...know that its only a 1% chance...but still....)

Ibra coupled with new signings Kjaer + Agger + Gorky will make us an unbeatable team....

Whats the price for Ibra ? wages alone will come around 15M


Otherwise go for plan-B....invest in Santacroce + Agger/Kjaer + Gorky + striker (Suarez/Paloschi/Keirisson/Neymar)

Originally Posted by gregapenny

Spaletti will not be the new coach of Milan. Ancelotti will sta for at least another year, I'm 100%.

The Italian media wrote a lot of things today. First of all, we are intensifying an approach for Lille defender Adil Rami. He's 23 years old, 1.90 m and 90 kg. Does anybody knows anything about this guy. Second I read that Roma is allready looking for a replacement for Mexes, who will wear a Milan jersey next year. Then there is Agger, who again didn't want to renew with Liverpool.

I also read tha Marco van Basten advised us to buy Ajax striker Luis Suarez.

And I also red that Valencia joined the race for Parma midfilder McDonald Mariga. I think we should offer Parma one more year of Paloschi and some small cash for this player. Because I read that he is very very good.

There's nothing certain about Carlo staying despite the comments he is making. The only reason at this point I'd believe Carlo is likely to stay is because Pellegatti said it.

I seriously hope we don't go for Mexes (who wouldn't come cheap and the money can be used for Santacroce).

As for Mariga, he would be an excellent option to buy imo, he looks like a future star given he makes the right career choices.

Originally Posted by k7r

Now that its almost certain that Ibra will leave Inter, why cant we make him join us...know that its only a 1% chance...but still....)

Ibra coupled with new signings Kjaer + Agger + Gorky will make us an unbeatable team....

Whats the price for Ibra ? wages alone will come around 15M


Otherwise go for plan-B....invest in Santacroce + Agger/Kjaer + Gorky + striker (Suarez/Paloschi/Keirisson/Neymar)

We can't get Ibra, there's no way Moratti would let him join us. On top of that, Ibra would cost in excess of 30m euros, which will probably go beyond our budget, but more importantly, prevent us making the important investments we need in defence.

Also, this isn't aimed at you, but I don't understand this fascination people have with Kjaer. Granted he's young, but I'm still not completely sold on the guy.

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

Also, this isn't aimed at you, but I don't understand this fascination people have with Kjaer. Granted he's young, but I'm still not completely sold on the guy.

Kjær is very good for his age, but if he was to be the only CB we sign in the summer we'd be taking a huge risk. He's only 20 years old and has just one year of Serie A experience (plus he's already played more games in Italy than he ever did in Denmark). It would be better for everyone - Kjær, Palermo and Milan (if we want him) - if he stayed in Sicily for another year to grow and to prove this season isn't a fluke. Then in 2010, if he fulfills his promise, he could sign him.

Also it seems Palermo doesn't want to sell him, so we'd have to pay his €12 million buy-out clause to get him. If Agger costs only €8 million then he would be a much better option. Or we could add maybe another €5 million and sign Santacroce.

And also, Ibra said he'd like to play in another country someday (so not in Milan as, as far as I know, Milan is in the same country that this Inter ), he would be expensive, and he fits too much with Inter mentality to become a Milan player ... I mean, he's very arrogant on the pitch ?!

So, I think Inter won't let him go this summer except if they can buy Drogba as we all know that Mourinho and Drogba are a bit like Carlo and Seedorf (wife and husband ).
And if we are realistic, they're even not going to sell him if they get Drogba because they will need to refresh their entire attack if they do, because Cruz is going to leave, as well as Crespo, and maybe Balotelli (I don't think he will be sold but he needs a loan in another country). They simply can't buy 4 strikers !!

About Adebayor AND Di Natale, I can only understand if both Sheva and Borriello or Inzaghi leave ... Inzaghi won't leave us, so if this rumour is true, that would mean that Sheva and Borriello go (Napoli for Borriello ?). That would open some new tactics to Ancelotti with these players: a real 4-3-3.
Di Natale is one of the few players in the world I wouldn't mind if we get him despite his age ... I think he is a WC player, and he still has 2 years at his current level. He would certainly accept to join a big club because it's now or never.

About Agger, it looks like his price is fixed to 8M.

Originally Posted by Ceceves

It would be better for everyone - Kjær, Palermo and Milan (if we want him) - if he stayed in Sicily for another year to grow and to prove this season isn't a fluke. Then in 2010, if he fulfills his promise, he could sign him.

Also it seems Palermo doesn't want to sell him, so we'd have to pay his €12 million buy-out clause to get him. If Agger costs only €8 million then he would be a much better option. Or we could add maybe another €5 million and sign Santacroce.

If Kjaer is worth 12 million euros today, imagine what he would be worth in one year time if he proves to be a world class defender. The talent is there, so I would take him this summer and we can make a world class defender out of him. But we also must take someone else, only Kjaer won't be enough. I say Kjaer and Mexes/Agger/Santacroce and we are OK!

Originally Posted by gregapenny

If Kjaer is worth 12 million euros today, imagine what he would be worth in one year time if he proves to be a world class defender. The talent is there, so I would take him this summer and we can make a world class defender out of him. But we also must take someone else, only Kjaer won't be enough. I say Kjaer and Mexes/Agger/Santacroce and we are OK!

Yes, but Palermo can never demand more than €12 million for him, unless Kjær signs a new contract - which wouldn't make sense. Of course if he has another good season we'll have to compete with other clubs, who will offer more than his buy-out clause. But that is probably already the case. If a big English club (Liverpool has been linked) goes in for him we probably can't or won't compete with them (also I believe Kjær is a Liverpool fan).

Originally Posted by Ceceves

Kjær is very good for his age, but if he was to be the only CB we sign in the summer we'd be taking a huge risk. He's only 20 years old and has just one year of Serie A experience (plus he's already played more games in Italy than he ever did in Denmark). It would be better for everyone - Kjær, Palermo and Milan (if we want him) - if he stayed in Sicily for another year to grow and to prove this season isn't a fluke. Then in 2010, if he fulfills his promise, he could sign him.

Also it seems Palermo doesn't want to sell him, so we'd have to pay his €12 million buy-out clause to get him. If Agger costs only €8 million then he would be a much better option. Or we could add maybe another €5 million and sign Santacroce.

He is good for his age, and shows the potential of playing in a top team, but at this point I don't think he's as good as the hype surrounding him. He's definitely not worth 12m euros imo (and I doubt Palermo would sell him to us for less), and I'd feel much more comfortable adding a little on top for Santacroce.

Either way, I'd rather we not deal with Zamparini, the idiot's insanity would waste a lot of time during negotiations and his hate for us would probably result in a failed deal anyway.

But if he has a 12Mil release clause, then he must allow us to talk with Kjer

12M for Kjaer is a bit excessive, and if it's his clause, Palermo won't sell him for a lower price, so it will be 12M or nothing to have Kjaer.

But if we have choice, the best duo to buy is Agger-Santacroce instead of Agger-Kjaer (Danemark would be happy if we buy both) or Santacroce-Kjaer. Actually, from most of our options, Kjaer seems to be, not the worst, but the "less good" player.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

12M for Kjaer is a bit excessive, and if it's his clause, Palermo won't sell him for a lower price, so it will be 12M or nothing to have Kjaer.

But if we have choice, the best duo to buy is Agger-Santacroce instead of Agger-Kjaer (Danemark would be happy if we buy both) or Santacroce-Kjaer. Actually, from most of our options, Kjaer seems to be, not the worst, but the "less good" player.

Actually, on behalf of the state of Denmark I hereby approve of signing Agger+Santacroce

Originally Posted by Ceceves

Actually, on behalf of the state of Denmark I hereby approve of signing Agger+Santacroce

What I meant is that for the national team, if two defenders of this NT (for Kjaer, I don't know if he is already a starte in the Dannish NT ?) are in the same club and of course play together, and play well together of course, it's perfect ...

So, what is the difference between Santacroce and Kjaer regarding the type and the quality of their play plus the talent of them? Anyone can help me to explain?