Milan - Juventus (10/05/09)

Hahaha Carlo is playing with 2 strikers...

Originally Posted by Ryo

Dammit! I'm watching the streams of tonights game and Ronnie just scored.....

Now why the hell did they not try shooting from those distances in the Juve game?
Can anybody tell me?

Juve - no space conceded for you to shoot.
Albania - poorer defense, less space.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Juve - no space conceded for you to shoot.
Albania - poorer defense, less space.

Yes Jeff, but the difference between them is that it only gets tighter when we go further into Juve territory. If dribbling into the 6 yard box doesn't seem to work, then why not try some far shots.

I counted only Kaka's shot that match, and honestly, I don't think that Juve were really that tight outside the 18 yard box.

That said, I'm watching this match, and I gotta say that I can't wait till Antonini comes back. He plays with as much heart as Gattuso, even against teams like this he's still willing to bomb forward.

This friendly also you why some of the youngsters are not playing: They are nowhere near the level of Serie A and not making mistakes.

Jxx

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

If Gourcuff and Paloschi stayed and started games, or we began playing with a 4-4-2 or a 4-4-3, and guys like Darmian, Viduez, Cardacio, Antonini, Abate and Strasser played more than a second here and there, then this is a rebuilding season.

Unless, guys like Seedorf, Kaladze, Kalac, Dida, Sheva, and players like Senderos and even Janku leaves Milan, we won't be winning anything.

We won't be winning anything with the bolded players anytime soon either. None of these guys are Milan quality, and I'm not on the bandwagon that Gourcuff is suddenly going to become Superman after returning from puny Ligue 1.

Originally Posted by Jeff

This friendly also you why some of the youngsters are not playing: They are nowhere near the level of Serie A and not making mistakes.

Jxx

To me, all 11 on the pitch look like they're nowhere near the Serie A quality

Of course it's a friendly and they are just running around...all of them

Originally Posted by Blacktop

We won't be winning anything with the bolded players anytime soon either. None of these guys are Milan quality, and I'm not on the bandwagon that Gourcuff is suddenly going to become Superman after returning from puny Ligue 1.

Gourcuuf is definitely a good player, not Superman of course
No one is saying that he will save Milan but he deserves a chance...in the starting 11

Originally Posted by Blacktop

We won't be winning anything with the bolded players anytime soon either. None of these guys are Milan quality, and I'm not on the bandwagon that Gourcuff is suddenly going to become Superman after returning from puny Ligue 1.

I don't think Seedorf, Dida, Kalac, Sheva, and Senderous are Milan quality either.

Anyhow, my point was that IF MILAN played them this season on a regular basis, then we can call this a rebuilding year.

Originally Posted by Christian

This was one of the worst games with Juventus I've ever seen. Juve obviously didn't want to play, and we were not very good either. One of the problems was that Ambrosini didn't have the same kind of game he has had in the last couple of games. In recent months, he has been the one making runs, creating space, along with Kaka, which is something we desperatly need with Beckham and Seedorf in the team, but today he didn't provide much offensively, aside from the "assist". I would've subbed Jankulovski and moved Flamini to the midfield.

It also became obvious that we shoudl've played with Pato and Inzaghi up front, since we were dominating possession anyways. Question is how fit Pato was before the game. I think Seedorf started the game pretty good, but he kept trying things, that was simply to hard, quick one-two's 'ala Iniesta, etc. In the second half he was to slow with the ball again.

Man of the match was definetly Maldini, he was solid in everything, and time and time again he stopped the Juventus attacks. Chiellini's face when Maldini grabbed his shirt was priceless, wonder what happened.

I went to the game and sat in the curva. it wasnt the best match but everyone whistled seedorf everytime he made a mistake , we are all sick of him. everyone loves kaka , gatusso and pato! more so though they love ronaldinho and are frustrated with ancelotti not playing him!

Out of interest what was Seedorf's reaction when subbed about? Was he trying to patronize the fans with his attitude or did someone actually cheer for him?

Also, does anyone know the reason for Maldini's reaction to Chiellini. Chiellini must have done something bad for Maldini to get so riled up.

Not sure about the affection for R80; he was terrible lately.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

The fact is, our goal were to win the League, UEFA Cup and Qualify for CL but by March we are only fighting to be in the CL for next season and if Inter did not lose pts, we would still be over 10 pts behind them instead of 7pts.

Wow !!
What to say ... umh ... I could say that if Inter had won all their games, we would have been something like 20 points behind them. Or if we lost all our games, we would already be crying for the next season in Serie B.

Well some people are correct here, Galliani braged all last summer, how there is no calciopoli deduction points, everyone is equal at the begning of the season, how our main objectiv is to win the scudetto then by december we were out of it. Then his story changed to the objective of wining the Uefa Cup, and Werder beat us there, so at this point we were in trouble in the Seria A, behind Inter and Juve plus our CL spot was in doubt. So then the main objectiv was to qualify for the CL. These are all the facts

We should have given Sheva a shot.

Originally Posted by Kwasniefski

We should have given Sheva a shot.

If the match had ended 4-1, maybe.

the game was good , it showed us we still need to do some work if we were to challenge for Serie A Title next year and CL as well
despite our recent great form we couldnt score against a big team like Juve except when they acted as a really big team and attacked
that was the only time to score against them , what to do against biggest team in Europe in San Siro next year in CL? they surely will act the same as Juve
the goal was a great work from Zambrotta , Pippo and Seedorf
Zambrotta no doubt shown great sight passing that ball quickly
Pippo great effort and it was just nice to pass instead of trying to score himself
Seedorf running all that distance from exactly the third part until Buffon that fast was really great
although i like Favalli but he havent done much good , he wasnt concentrating and earned a yellow card early
the refree wasnt that bad , we havent had a lot of chances and we needed to work a lot better , we have to look a lot better despite anything if we were to challenege for CL next year coz all refrees can suck sometimes and i wont expect to give it up no matter what
i mean there r only 3 games left and we must look better by now
didnt like flamini in defence and surely didnt like ronanldinho fitness and we seriously need a player on the right if we wont keep Sheva , the whole team prefer the left side and its just not good.