Summer mercato 2009

Man, what happened to Gourcuff is making me laughing off of my chair. This management is funnier than the Simpsons nowadays. I guess i am not too upset about this situation because i am just not that surprised. We all knew this management has no long term plan for the team and couldn't care less about losing one of its most valuable pieces as long as the money is right. From the start, it always kind of seemed like milan gave up on Gourcuff and were counting on that 15 mil they sell him for to finance the mercato.

That, brings out an even more interesting question here, how much money do we actually have for the mercato? I have noticed that since the Kaka saga started again, we have shifted our target from a WC striker in Adebayor (though most of you think he is overrated, he is still an elite level striker) to the old and useless Toni. We went from robbing a top team in the EPL to picking up the leftover from Bayern, no offense to Bayern that is. If we are this desperate for 15 mil worth of cash, then i seriously doubt our mercato budget is as big as it should be. To me, a net spending (that is minus the money we get from selling our players) of anything less than 40 mil will only lead to us forfeiting Serie A in January again. And yet, i seriously doubt we even have 40 mil after all the sales.

PS: I am waiting inpatiently to see how Galliani and the other fatbacks from management explain Gourcuff's situation to the fans. I have a feeling that his response will be priceless.

Originally Posted by slifersd

PS: I am waiting inpatiently to see how Galliani and the other fatbacks from management explain Gourcuff's situation to the fans. I have a feeling that his response will be priceless.

They pay the amount listed in the clause, they come to an agreement about the contract. We can't do anything about it.

And no, we didn't put that clause in the contract lol.

Originally Posted by Jeff

They pay the amount listed in the clause, they come to an agreement about the contract. We can't do anything about it.

And no, we didn't put that clause in the contract lol.

Galliani (with an angry face): how dare you fans accuse me of failing in the market? we made 300% profit on this one signing alone! And the fact is, we just cannot compete with French clubs any more because the tax in France is so much lower!

Originally Posted by Acmir^

Why buying someone unproven in europe when we could've have the French MVP back, how do you know the same thing wouldn't happen with him also, ending up loaned to another team. At least Gourcuff is a far better player than Hernanes. It is obvious that he's not for Milan only because of Carlo not having confidence in him and ruining him just like he did with Gila.

The French MVP? Hell, Flourent Malouda was the French MVP two seasons ago. It's a second-rate league. Lots of good players gain experience there before going on to bigger clubs, but being the top player in Ligue 1 is no guarantee of success. That's not to say that I don't think Gourcuff is a talented player. He obviously is (so is Malouda). But don't act like having a Player of the Year season in France makes him Zidane. Gorky was an excellent young talent in France before coming to Milan, but what did he really do after he got to the San Siro? Not a whole helluva lot, actually. Three goals and five assists in two seasons? Hell, he started 18 games and played in 33 during his first year (so it's not as though he didn't have plenty of opportunities) and had two goals and three assists. His defense was questionable. He wasn't terribly decisive or all that adept at getting the ball to the forwards in position to score. What he had was potential.

So now he goes back to France and does great against lesser competition. That doesn't mean he would be any more than just a good player at Milan. There are lots of good players out there. so losing one who failed to take advantage of two seasons to prove himself isn't something that's going to cause me to lose any sleep. Sure, I'd have liked to have seen him come back and try to prove himself at a higher level, but c'est la vie. There are plenty of fish in the sea.

And what makes you say that Gourcuff is a far better player than Hernanes? I've only seen Hernanes play a handful of times, but he's an incredible talent. Some who have watched him play regularly believe he is more naturally gifted than Kaka. Has anyone ever said that about Gourcuff? Of course -- like Gourcuff -- he hasn't proven himself at the highest level. The fact that Barcelona made a major play for him last summer (if reports are accurate, they had a bid rejected that was as much as Bordeaux just paid for Gorky) should tell you something.

It's very bad news about Gourcuff, but anyway, we can't blame too much the club ...

Almost everyone here (except some people and myself) were happy to sell Gilardino ... now, let's imagine, he would have been loaned with a clause allowing Fiorentina to buy him, after his season, would you have reacted the same way that everyone does it with Gourcuff who simply showed nothing in Milan ??

Originally Posted by GeoTav

It's very bad news about Gourcuff, but anyway, we can't blame too much the club ...

We can since it is management's mistake to make such a clause in a promising player. Putting a clause means the management wanted to sell Gourcuff but with pretty much money, not a sum of money matched to his condition in that time. A loan is like only a try for the buyer. It's just like "try it first, buy it later".

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Almost everyone here (except some people and myself) were happy to sell Gilardino ... now, let's imagine, he would have been loaned with a clause allowing Fiorentina to buy him, after his season, would you have reacted the same way that everyone does it with Gourcuff who simply showed nothing in Milan ??

Very good comparison I have to admit. Gila was always bad and it's all his mistake.

i don't think you can compare the cases of gilardino and gourcuff. gilardino had plentyful chances to shine whereas gourcuff had so limited time and even less confidence and trust from the coach. under these circumstances kaka would have failed too at milan.

of course yoann made also mistakes but those where minor compared to what ancelotti did.

ps: selling gila was a mistake, he showed this season that with the right support he is a great striker to have. milan just failed to bring the best out of him, what a pity.

Guys i think this problems are with Carlo...First with Gilardino, Olivera, Gourcuff...It has to be Ancelotti......He doesn't give much chances and believe in yoann players that's why i really like Pep Guardiola and what he did with Barcelona...Bosquet in first team...very wonderful...Carlo is milan's problem, he should go and i hope that Berlusconi noticed that anything is possible even without Carlo and a Serie B coach a yr ago Guardiola took Barcelona to the Champions league final and won but not only won but won beautifully...Carlo should go....PLEASE GOD MAKE THIS HAPPEN...CARLO HAS DESTROYED SO MANY PLAYERS...HE SAYS WE DON'T NEED PLAYERS WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO...WE DON'T NEED ABATE? R u kidding? we need a new coach LORD JESUS pls let him leave

Gourcuff didnt show nothing in Milan. For those who can see it was visible that he can play. He had no confidence, he was played constantly in different roles in complete chaos situations, with B teams, in last 5 min etc. He showed glimpses which needed redirection and assurances. He got backstabbed in his 2nd season when he was a sub for Brocchi/Emerson or whoever.

Seedorf has shamefull season, whole year, without playing at normal level more then 4,5 times. Never got punished...

Anyway, Gourcuff is noz Zidane, Figo etc. He is a talented young player which was threated like he in noone and noone cared untill last week practically. He choose well and I dont blame him. I wouldnt return also if a man who promissed me I will play ( Galliani ) after not telling the truth comes after a year and wants be back in a club with no clear plan.

Galliani and Silvio also did nothing towards Maldini after Curva offended him. Later on they talked how silence is gold and that politic ****! Disgusting. They are cowards and not much more.

For results you need to work. Galliani does what? What are his acomplishments now when Silvio is not paying as he used to? Which players has he found? Pato and Kaka' are Leo's picks. Also Serginho. Galliani brought Stam ( excellent move, on of his best ), Gila ( good move but ruined by coach so obviousely from the beggining), Flamini.

Torres - we werent sure if he's class... Vogel, Emerson, Oddo, Zambro ( ok move ), and all other **** players Galliani brought coz he doesnt work and starts working in july?? Shamefull.

Start working and hire coach who will make his players train hard and fight. That is all I ask from Milan. Results will come. But this is a circus, we lost a great player just coz we were big headed as usual lately.

Originally Posted by acdc81

ps: selling gila was a mistake, he showed this season that with the right support he is a great striker to have. milan just failed to bring the best out of him, what a pity.

If you have a chance take a look at Gila's first, lets say 15 games in Milan. Look at what he was asked to do on the field and how he lost himself. Then you'll realise what happened.

After that it was right to sell him. He became useless 100%. Lost all of his confidence.

Now that Gourcuff is gone the only right replacement that i see is Riccardo Montolivo....He's quite skilled, fast, good passer and scorer...plays similar to Gourcuff n Iniesta...we should definitely get him honestly...plus he defends and attacks too...plus he's young

Originally Posted by mrki

For results you need to work. Galliani does what? What are his acomplishments now when Silvio is not paying as he used to? Which players has he found? Pato and Kaka' are Leo's picks. Also Serginho. Galliani brought Stam ( excellent move, on of his best ), Gila ( good move but ruined by coach so obviousely from the beggining), Flamini.

Torres - we werent sure if he's class... Vogel, Emerson, Oddo, Zambro ( ok move ), and all other **** players Galliani brought coz he doesnt work and starts working in july?? Shamefull.

It's rediculess to say that Galliani hasn't brought anyone good, Nesta, Pirlo, Gattuso, Shevchenko (1999, 2008 is Silvio's deal), Gourcuff in the first place!, do I need to continue?? He made a mistake, infact he's made loads of mistakes, but show me a club that doesn't do that??

Look at Barcelona's transfers this season, Caceras (16M euro's, prospect, but one of the worst defenders in La Liga this year), Hleb (Worse than Quaresma?). Inter, worse Mercato than us, and guess who was the guy who orcestrated it?? Mourinho that everyone loves to prays... Quaresma, Mancini need I say more??? Two of the worst transfers in the HISTORY of calcio. Liverpool - Robbie Kean (20+ M euro's what the hell??), Real Madrid - Van Der Vaart, terrible... Chelsea - Deco. In fact I'm struggling to find any signings this season for top clubs that has been better than Abbiati and Flamini... Daniel Alves maybe, but he was expensive... Perhaps Lass from Real Madrid. Help me out??

The fact is that Galliani as everyone else, is far from flawless, and he should definetly not have put that clause in the Gourcuff contract, BUT show some respect to a man that build the best team in Europe in the middle of this decade. Everybody rightfully gets upset when people bash Maldini, but when people insult Galliani (Who has spent as long in Milan as Maldini has btw) then it's ok... I'm all for criticism, but do it with some respect...

Interesting post. But the difference is, Christian, that Barcelona etc. have a long term plan and they get some things wrong. Milan have done very little in the transfer market. As good as Beckham was, he is not a long-term solution. Despite Barca's mistakes, they just won the treble.

I am not too worried about Gourcuff's loss. I'd rather management take that money and buy a good replacement. I don't think Gourcuff was our solution.

MILAN - Here are the declarations of the Delegate Administrator Adriano Galliani on his arrival at the Lega Calcio in Milan:

ON MILAN'S MOMENT: "On Sunday in Florence we have a fundamental match. The difference between finishing third and fourth is very, very big. We absolutely have to try and enter the Champions League without going through the preliminary rounds. It's true that in 2003 and 2007 we won the Cup after starting from the preliminary rounds, but we won't need to do it a third time."

ON THE NOSTALGIA OF THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: "It was a great final between Barcelona and Manchester United, but there is no melancholy, also because I want to remind we are the only Italian team which has managed to get to the finals recently, and that we did it three times in the last decade. We can't always be there... We are happy with our eight finals. In Rome there was a great spectacle, it's really true that in the Champions League there is a different atmosphere."

ON THE TRANSFER RUMOURS: "Kaká to Real? Enough, we have been talking about the same things for three months. We'll only talk about the transfer market after the end of the season. Chelsea want Pirlo? Well, that means our players are good, and that we have not just made mistakes on the transfer market... I hugged Abramovich two or three times yesterday, our relationship is very affectionate, as it is with Carlo Ancelotti. But we will also talk about this on Monday, after our meeting."

ON THE JEERS TO PAOLO MALDINI: "I won't talk about these people. I did not speak to Paolo yesterday. As for the dedication to the captain by Pep Guardiola (coach of the newly crowned European Champions Barcelona), it was very sweet, kind, and polite."


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is there any damn way we can get ribery?..... i herd we were trying to scoop him up during halfway of the season?..... or if damn carlo stays we can convert pato to a C.A.M. to line up with Kaka' then we have to absolutly no choice buy a striker or get paloschi back.....borriello inzaghi paloschi _____ new striker drogba adebayor we absolutly have to now buy a physical striker..... i really really hope carlo goes we cant play 4321 anymore because pirlo either isnt strong or fast enough anymore... gattuso isnt fit yet OR we buy hernanes?... listen remember if we cant buy a worldclass cb then we have to get a world class defensive midfielder like Xabi Alonso Obi Mikel to protect that back 4....a young milan with current players and hernanes would be in 4321


Antonini,Mattioni,---Bonera,Nesta---Albertazzi,Silva,Senderos---Zambrotta?

flamini---gattuso---hernanes---

kaka'--------------- pato

---Borriello,Paloschi,Inzaghi----a new striker drogba,adebayor,dzeko,

im trying to be damn positive so dont blast me

last time i herd that bayern wanted 35 mill for franck mabey he likes our club and will take less or we secretly have more i dont know....but we had no choice the release was so low for yoann 15 mill....i just dont get it??