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Old 29-05-2009, 06:18   #2506

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Then he should have been loaned alswhere and not in France.

Now, does anyone know what is the situation with Criscito? Is he 100% Juve player or what? Juve is trying to sign a LB according to calciomercato.com: Grosso, Dossena... I expected Juve to play Criscito next year but maybe they will opt for someone more experienced.

Arnautovic will soon become Inter player, he has his medical now ( today, tommorow...).
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Old 29-05-2009, 06:18   #2507

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Old 29-05-2009, 06:23   #2508

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Well, if it is a business per say, then we should also sell Kaka and Pato as they both are worth twice if not more as much as we bought them.
How about Pirlo too, as we traded for him, so even if we sell him for 2 mil thats like doubling what we got him for.

The thing is Galli and Milan could have put the buy out clause at 30mil or 40mil or even 50mil. You might say that well, thats stupid as Gourcuff is not worth that much last year...but do you honestly think Gourcuff is worth 15mil last year too?

What I think is that Bordeaux just came in with a loan offer and a buy out of 15mil? Instead of countering, Galli just went, sure why not....

You might say that if someone came in last year and buy Gourcuff for 15mil, we would be happy.... the fact is we did not sell him last year and we really could use him for the next few years but once again the MGT screwed up.

I would rather see we sold Gourcuff last summer for 5 mil or less than losing him for 15mil now.
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Old 29-05-2009, 06:29   #2509

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That's just business...
A bad business I say.
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Old 29-05-2009, 06:37   #2510

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What I think is that Bordeaux just came in with a loan offer and a buy out of 15mil? Instead of countering, Galli just went, sure why not....

You might say that if someone came in last year and buy Gourcuff for 15mil, we would be happy.... the fact is we did not sell him last year and we really could use him for the next few years but once again the MGT screwed up.

I would rather see we sold Gourcuff last summer for 5 mil or less than losing him for 15mil now.
But none of this explains Galliani's inability to convince Gourcuff to come back to Milan despite very early signs that he was going to be big this season. Hostility towards him continued throughout the season and the few public statements about wanting him back were no consolation. That this where Yohann was lost not in the contract.
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Old 29-05-2009, 06:50   #2511

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Then he should have been loaned alswhere and not in France.

Now, does anyone know what is the situation with Criscito? Is he 100% Juve player or what? Juve is trying to sign a LB according to calciomercato.com: Grosso, Dossena... I expected Juve to play Criscito next year but maybe they will opt for someone more experienced.

Arnautovic will soon become Inter player, he has his medical now ( today, tommorow...).
I believe he is co-owned by Juve and Genoa. If I was in charge at Juve I would definately bring back Criscito and play him at LB, instead of signing an old player like Grosso, who unlike Zambrotta was never world class. But Secco seems keen on selling all their prospects (Nocerino, Palladino, almost Giovinco etc.). Milan and Juve are really battling it out for the title of "worst run club in Europe"...
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Old 29-05-2009, 07:19   #2512

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So Ancelotti and the management did things right for one young player in all those years, big deal! It hardly justifies their atrocious record handling all the other youngsters they brought in. The mere fact that we have virtually the same rotation as we did in 2003 should tell you about how well the management and coach signed and trained the young players.
Players who started 15 games or more during the 2008-09 Serie A season who also started 15 or more games in 2002-03: Maldini, Seedorf, Pirlo.

If my calculations are correct, that adds up to three. If you want to go to 10 games started, we can toss in Pippo, Gattuso and Kaladze. Either way, it's hardly "virtually the same rotation" as in 2003.
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Old 29-05-2009, 07:24   #2513

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Look here's the deal about Gourcuff. Last summer we loaned him to Bordeaux and it was immediately known that Bordeaux can make it permanent at the end of the season. So we already knew one year ago that it is out of our hands. There is a law in France that says that if the player is loaned to a french club than there has to be a buyout clause.

Look guys if Bordeaux came in last summer and wanted to take Gourcuff for 15 million euros you would be jumping around and hailing Galliani... Now, you are accusing him for a thing that was out of his hands. Bordeaux had an option to buy him and they did. And when Galliani and Leonardo flew to Bordeaux they were not allowed to speak to Gourcuff directly, but only to directors of Bordeaux. That was it... If you look at it, we bought Gourcuff for 4 million euros and sold him for 15. That's just business...
Firstly, it was never out of our hands as we owned him. He was loaned out due to his struggles in Milan and he himself on many occasions spoke about returning to Italy and Milan next season, the final decision was always his.

Also, Galliani and Leonardo had every right to speak to Gourcuff, when they flew out he was our player. There was no reason we couldn't speak to him personally about returning and I'm Galliani and Leo did. Bordeaux cannot prevent us from talking to him, as he was under contract with Milan, not with Bordeaux.
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Old 29-05-2009, 07:47   #2514

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Today's Rumor. Berlusconi tells Ronaldo to come to Milan.


Berlusconi a Ronaldo: "Vieni al Milan"

29.05.2009 14.22 di Alessio Calfapietra articolo letto 2035 volte
Il Milan potrebbe sparigliare le carte in vista della prossima stagione. L'ormai scontato avvento di Leonardo sulla panchina del Milan (annuncio dopo la gara contro la Fiorentina) darą avvio ad una ristrutturazione significativa della rosa. Silvio Berlusconi vuole dare una scossa all'ambiente e mostrare ai tifosi che la sua capacitą di spesa č immutata portando a Milano Cristiano Ronaldo (24). La conferma arriva dallo stesso Premier, il quale, come riportato da Sette Gold, ha rivelato di aver detto al portoghese che "sarebbe un onore vederlo al Milan". Le immagini tv della premiazione post-partita di Roma, con Berlusconi che parla all'orecchio di Ronaldo, ricevendo un sorriso di assenso, hanno dato vita ad una serie di indiscrezioni che ora trovano un riscontro ufficiale. Il Milan dunque proverą ad acquistare Cristiano Ronaldo dal Manchester United. Il colpo del secolo che potrebbe fare seguito alla sempre pił probabile partenza di Kaką verso il Real Madrid.
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Also, Galliani and Leonardo had every right to speak to Gourcuff, when they flew out he was our player. There was no reason we couldn't speak to him personally about returning and I'm Galliani and Leo did. Bordeaux cannot prevent us from talking to him, as he was under contract with Milan, not with Bordeaux.
I would like to know how much milan directors/coaches/scouts talked to him before that trip or what was said by Leo and Gal...

There are 2 options either Gorky felt that milan don't belive enough in him or Gorky doesn't belive in him self. Since I doubt Bourdeaux to be his last team I think it's the the first.

Besides we have some problems persuading players to come here other than Brazilians. Remember last year we had a deal for Hugo Lloris but he chose Lyon instead of Milan.
Maybe Leo's French isn't that good after all and he can only use the swearwords.
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You might say that if someone came in last year and buy Gourcuff for 15mil, we would be happy.... the fact is we did not sell him last year and we really could use him for the next few years but once again the MGT screwed up.
I could be wrong but I think Arsenal wanted to buy him last year and the way Englisch clubs tend to splash out I don think it was les than 5-10mil instead we opted to loan him out...
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So, according to the Daily Telegraph, once Carlo is named Chelsea manager next week, he plans to take Pirlo with him. But Milan is quoting a price of £20 million.

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Old 29-05-2009, 08:19   #2518

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Then he should have been loaned alswhere and not in France.
What's the point to loan him elsewhere than France (or Italy) ??
His family is in France, he is French, he always played in France except when he came to Milan, so France was the right country for him, don't you think so ? About this rule with clauses in loan contracts, it's false, loans can be done in France without any option to buy the player at the end ...
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Does Berlusconi want to take C.Ronaldo to realize the dream of Florentino Perez to have both Kaka' and C.Ronaldo together in his team ??
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Players who started 15 games or more during the 2008-09 Serie A season who also started 15 or more games in 2002-03: Maldini, Seedorf, Pirlo.

If my calculations are correct, that adds up to three. If you want to go to 10 games started, we can toss in Pippo, Gattuso and Kaladze. Either way, it's hardly "virtually the same rotation" as in 2003.
Well, if Nesta was healthy he would have played 15 games.
If Gattuso did not get injured, he would have played more than 15 games.
Same goes for Pippo.

So pls don't draw facts here and there and put together a conclusion that Milan squad is improving.
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