Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by brk

Can this work?:

----------------Dida
Zambro--Nesta--Thiago--Janku

--------Gattuso----Flamini

--------------Kaka
---------------------Ronaldinho
-----Pato
---------------Adebayor

Originally Posted by brk

I don't think it's a safe bet all the time, but it would be frightening against tightly packed defenses at San Siro.

Edit: Just to explain. The value of Kaka rushing through the middle means that he will usually draw a player from the center of defence (especially if he beats the DM). This was usually not a big problem when playing one up front, as the second defender would cut the pass to the forward. But having R80, Pato and Adebayer (or whoever) in front means that Kaka has 3 options, and no matter which defender decides to rush Kaka, this means that one attacker will always be free.

i hope so is that a italian 433? i love that formation its like kaka is butchering the opposing teams midfield

I'm not sure if kaka' will be happy playing so deep..he complained at the beggining of the year when he played a little deeper to his current striker role...

I think Kaka will be switch to be a striker next season inorder to have Dinho and him playing together

seedorf to chelsea rumor finally started...


http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...chelsea-report

Seedorf to Chelsea is the new rumour and supposedly we're after Alex in return. That for me is a no brainer. Pirlo for Essien is the other recent rumour which is more difficult to decide due to the competition we already have for Essien's role and the fact that we'd lose a creative player in Pirlo. I know losing Seedorf also means losing a creative talent, but I value his role much less than Pirlo.

As for Galliani's recent comments. I think as per usual he was pretty much mostly just ranting about the state of Italian football (he does actually have a point though). He used guys like Pato and Kaka as an example, but ultimately I'm confident we'll keep both. Kaka has again said he wants to stay at Milan (I read a new article today) and I can't imagine the management would be stupid enough to sell Pato even if Carlo is supposedly trying to take him to Chelsea.

Originally Posted by brk

Can this work?:

----------------Dida
Zambro--Nesta--Thiago--Janku

--------Gattuso----Flamini

--------------Kaka
---------------------Ronaldinho
-----Pato
---------------Adebayor


I don't think it's a safe bet all the time, but it would be frightening against tightly packed defenses at San Siro.

Edit: Just to explain. The value of Kaka rushing through the middle means that he will usually draw a player from the center of defence (especially if he beats the DM). This was usually not a big problem when playing one up front, as the second defender would cut the pass to the forward. But having R80, Pato and Adebayer (or whoever) in front means that Kaka has 3 options, and no matter which defender decides to rush Kaka, this means that one attacker will always be free.

I hope you'd expect more reinforcements than just Adebayor

Anyway, I don't think it'd work too well tbh, it's not so much the shape of the system but I think you're using personnel in the wrong areas. Dida I would guess would be out for Abbiati, whilst the defence doesn't look too bad. However, Janku MUST be replaced at LB, as quite frankly, he's rubbish at defending.

The midfield with Kaka in front of Rino and Flamini seems too deep for Kaka for me. His game has changed quite a lot over the past few years and he seems to have adjusted to the more supporting forward role. More importantly, the more advanced role means he gets more chances to make use of his skills, in particular his shooting. The other issue is with Dinho down the left, as was the case in the first half of this season Kaka's movement will be restricte, proving detrimental to his game.

Dinho down the left seems troubling to me. He's a good player, but down the left he's no longer got the effect he used to have. I think he's actually looking better more centrally these days as his passing range is still good. For this reason, I'd actually consider swapping Kaka and Dinho around. Though in reality, I'd rather see Pirlo take up that central role as his passing and vision is better than the other two.

Finally, in attack. I get the impression you want Pato to play as a supporting forward to Adebayor. If so, I'd rather actually consider using Pato as a pure forward (not striker) with Adebayor as a point reference for him to push through a defence. This way we can make use of his goalscoring instinct. It might seem a little old in style than the current trend of 4-3-3 with two wide attackers supporting a target man, but I'm certain for us it'd be more effective to get the most out of our players. Mostly, I'd change the style to be more fluid than it was in the past, as is necessary these days.

I am starting to really love Carlo.
First the rumor of Pirlo and Essien swap.
And now there is a rumor of Seedorf and Alex swap.
Whats going to be next? Terry and Kaladze swap follow by a Bosigwa and Janku swap as well as a Dida and Cech swap and last but not least, a Ambrosini and Lampard swap.

I just love how the media are dreaming up stories.

IF that happens, God Bless Carlo for finally doing something constructive for Milan during these past two years.

I don't get all of you sometime. Seedorf accomplished as much in Milan as Pirlo and Kaka. And yet, when a rumors of Seedorf leaving, we are all cheering while the other two put us in panic mode.
You guys are really ungrateful, as Seedorf and Carlo helped us win 2CL in 8 years. And thats one more than Kaka.

Show some respect peeps, as we really can't replace someone like Seedorf in the starting eleven. Since there is no professional football player that can move like him, as the others tends to run instead of walk, pass forward instead of backward, run back to help defense instead of walk back and prey others will defend. Those are qualities that nobody can replace. Not to mention the fact that Seedorf plays ALL THE TIME, it gives a sense of consistency to his teammates that: "Damn, that means we are playing with 10 players again."
Stop wishing Seedorf to leave Milan, as he is a symbol for us true diehard fans to boo, and scream at, also the players, mainly Senderous, Dida, Kaladze, Sheva, and even Pirlo and Janku will truly miss him as they will be saying: "Oh crap, that means we can't have an excuse of at least I played better than Seedorf."

I think the best way to fit both Dinho and Kaka into the same lineup could involve having Kaká play as a SS to Pato, leaving Dinho to play as a #10. If we use Pato as a CF, we won't need to sign a big name striker like Adebayor; though if Borriello doesn't heal up we should bring in a good backup.

This leaves 3 berths in central midfield, rather than two, so Gattuso and Flamini could play behind Pirlo. I really hope Pirlo will be pushed further upfield, and if Leo let him and Dinho be the main playmakers of our team we have arguably the best two passers of the ball outside of Barcelona.

I'm thinking something along these lines:

--------------Abbiati
Zambrotta - Thiago - Nesta - LB
--------Gattuso - Flamini
----------Pirlo
--------------Ronaldinho
--------Kaká
---------------Pato

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Dude, you can have your say now, but lets see what happens next year.

One more thing, I do agree with you that the current Chelsea team has better players than the current Milan squad.

Yes, but he also has to face with the twice less patient club owner. Good luck Carletto, you're going to need it so bad, I'm warning you

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

I don't get all of you sometime. Seedorf accomplished as much in Milan as Pirlo and Kaka. And yet, when a rumors of Seedorf leaving, we are all cheering while the other two put us in panic mode.
You guys are really ungrateful, as Seedorf and Carlo helped us win 2CL in 8 years. And thats one more than Kaka.

Show some respect peeps, as we really can't replace someone like Seedorf in the starting eleven. Since there is no professional football player that can move like him, as the others tends to run instead of walk, pass forward instead of backward, run back to help defense instead of walk back and prey others will defend. Those are qualities that nobody can replace. Not to mention the fact that Seedorf plays ALL THE TIME, it gives a sense of consistency to his teammates that: "Damn, that means we are playing with 10 players again."
Stop wishing Seedorf to leave Milan, as he is a symbol for us true diehard fans to boo, and scream at, also the players, mainly Senderous, Dida, Kaladze, Sheva, and even Pirlo and Janku will truly miss him as they will be saying: "Oh crap, that means we can't have an excuse of at least I played better than Seedorf."

You should've used some smilies, buddy. Otherwise someone might think you really meant it

Well, thats the point I am sending out.
Hahahaha

ALEX for Seedorf? This is like playing championship manager and you're in control of the other team too!!! Woohoo!!!

Originally Posted by zafrul

ALEX for Seedorf? This is like playing championship manager and you're in control of the other team too!!! Woohoo!!!

Even then there is a slight chance the board will get involved and block the transfer!!! :LOL

This rumor is pure crap.

I don't think that we have to take into consideration all these rumours of switches between Chelsea players and Milan ones ...

Anyway, if that was to happen, I think that will mean that Berlusconi and Ancelotti are the central point of a Milan conspiracy ...
We have no money, so let's send our coach into a club with players who interest us, let's give them two players from our team to have two of their team, and in 2010-2011, after one good season with Leonardo (because Leonardo never wanted to be a coach so he will ask at the end of the season to become again a scout for us lol), Ancelotti is back in Milan !!

Originally Posted by GeoTav

I don't think that we have to take into consideration all these rumours of switches between Chelsea players and Milan ones ...

Anyway, if that was to happen, I think that will mean that Berlusconi and Ancelotti are the central point of a Milan conspiracy ...
We have no money, so let's send our coach into a club with players who interest us, let's give them two players from our team to have two of their team, and in 2010-2011, after one good season with Leonardo (because Leonardo never wanted to be a coach so he will ask at the end of the season to become again a scout for us lol), Ancelotti is back in Milan !!

hehehe...

But you all know Ancelotti's favorite CB is Alex ( not counting Maldini, NEsta of course). He'll most likely sell Carwalho to Inter and not switch Alex with anyone.

About Seedorf, he is a class player that is no longer capable of playing at the highest level unless he gets extremly fit. With Carlo he didnt need to be fit so he never was...same as Pirlo.

KAka' said that he wants to stay in Milan and is begging not to ask him more coz he doesnt want to be manipulated in papers. Pato will not be sold, he is 19/20!