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Old 03-06-2009, 03:53   #121

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Shocking.

I have a bad feeling this is the beginning of a mass clear out. Something is financially amiss at Milanello.

We're on the verge of selling off Milan's best player, in his prime, quickly negotiated, for far less than what was offered six months ago...

His direct replacement, a very hot commodity, sold after a quick negotiation, for half of his worth out in the open market...

Something ain't right folks. lanoura may be on to something.
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Old 03-06-2009, 03:55   #122

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You think Kaka is lying? If you say Kaka is lying you don't know him. He is an honest man who knows that lying is wrong.

As long as he is saying he wants to stay, he will.
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Old 03-06-2009, 03:59   #123

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Guess I have to accept that despite my thoughts that this transfer was unlikely, it seems almost certain now. Kaka sold to RM despite himself being absolutely happy to stay, it just seems really concerning for the financial situation of Milan (and Berlusconi?). Dont get me wrong, Berlusconi has a ton of money regardless of the global financial crisis,but when it seems that he doesnt want to accept the bill to keep our biggest star in the club, you have to wonder if hes counting his millions these days.

With that being said, if the money from this deal is invested in new players, and I mean players with actual potential/skill (aka not Adebayor), I think we will be fine. Kaka is not bigger than the club, we didnt go under after the Gre-No-Li trio, we managed after the dutch glory years with Van Basten, Gullit and Rijkaard, we managed after Baresi hung up his boots, after Sheva went to Chelsea, and we will manage after Kaka leaves.

The big question now is if the club/Silvio is willing to spend the money required to build a new team that will once again be at the top of European football, and if this will happen now or if we will have to wait some years for a new generation of stars to be gathered. For those of us who were fans of the club in the mid-late 90s, remember some dark seasons where the club actually ended in 10th and 11th place on the table. I doubt that will happen now, but it's not a given that Milan must be a serious challenger for the Scudetto and/or CL trophy every single year. I just hope that regardless of how well/badly the club does, that we will play some entertaining football. As Genoa and Cagliari demonstrated this season, you dont have to be fighting for the Scudetto to entertain and amaze football fans all over the world.
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:04   #124

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How can you jump to conclusions so fast? We have radio stations, papers in Spain a person around Kaka saying he will go to Real and they have even set the prize.

Then Kaka is there saying he wants to stay. Galliani is in Real to congratulate Perez. And not to negotiate. That's what they claim.

So the question we have is: Do we believe the medias who have deceived us again and again or do we believe Kaka who has been honest about his love for Milan and his desire to stay?
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:05   #125

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The speculations here suggest that Kaka does not want to leave, but will accept to do so to either RM or Chelsea, for the simple reason he has no choice: to fund the Milan rebuilding.

This doesn't make sense for there will be no rebuilding: Milan will become nonexistent; at least for awhile.

No good players will come after this fiasco. B is unlikely to replace Kaka, and also likely to fail in attracting his targets. The standing of Milan will plummet. International fans will leave in droves. Crucially, the commercial revenue will also plummet in the absence of the biggest asset. It will cost Milan more than 55m to recover from all these. It simply doesn't make sense to sell him.

Irrespective of all these rumours, I still believe Kaka will never leave Milan. Because, it has been the press of all kinds which proved to have been lying; everything they relayed to the world routinely turned out to have been lies, opinions, assumptions without any concrete evidence.

City saga was a good example. In the end Kaka was not even near to join City, but every single one of the papers avowed he already joined. Only later, most admitted they never believed the move was feasible. But that wasn't what they suggested in the midst of the fevered speculations.

I think in times like these, the journalists' ability to distinguish the facts from mere opinions gets lost as every development they learn or manufacture will be exaggerated to prove the thesis of the moment.

When that thesis in question originated from Spanish press who has never told any truths as regards Kaka....you might need to reduce the context into something such as this: maybe, the situation is that the entourage of Kaka, which has been known to check every single deal offered for him, is just being curious as to what the RM deal will entail. And there has been absolutely no agreement between the clubs. Although as always, Milan let it study the deal. And Kaka will avoid leaving Milan as long as the plea from B&G doesn't get so loud. And B will not dare sell Kaka. What will he he gain from it? Nothing.

That's what I am guessing. But one thing I am pretty sure of is this: Kaka will flop. And will be sold on to RM, or Chelsea or City in a year or so time. Incidentally, I live near the Chelsea exercising ground. I don't know how to cope with being so near to the fallen idol of this magnitude. It was difficult with sheva, but at least he didn't live near here.
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:33   #126

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Irrespective of all these rumours, I still believe Kaka will never leave Milan. Because, it has been the press of all kinds which proved to have been lying; everything they relayed to the world routinely turned out to have been lies, opinions, assumptions without any concrete evidence.
You need to read the right newspaper, and that is Gazzetta dello Sport. This is the best and most serious sport-media in Europe (and the world?). When they write something, you can be sure that they have very reliable sources for it, and they are saying today that Galliani and Kaka's father is in Madrid discussing a deal with Perez worth £68.5m. There is little chance that this isn't true after Gazzetta reports it. However it doesn't say that the deal is agreed and Kaka has accepted the move, hence it's not a done deal yet. However when Galliani agrees to discuss a transfer, I have a very bad feeling that it will happen, since all he had to do was say "he's not for sale, and is happy to stay in Milan" if that was the case.

Regardless, as I wrote earlier, if Kaka leaves the club will survive. People should at least wait until the season starts, and see what the team looks like then, before they go buy a black-and-blue-shirt.

Now I put my faith in Leonardo building a new and exciting team, and maybe in a couple of years we once again will be fighting for glory and trophies. Not that I rule out that we can do that next season aswell, but I'm a Milan supporter both in success and in struggles, and I'm willing to wait as long as it takes until we once again rise to the top.
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:51   #127

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Gazzetta dello Sport, as reliable as it might be, why would people, like Perez, Galliani, and others tell them, yeah we are talking about a Kaka's transfer.
THe thing is that, Kaka came out and said he is staying, what more do you want.
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:52   #128

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I agree. As much as Kaka is our best player and it would be sad to him leave, even without him it is a beautiful team made of very good players. With the right players coming in we can be a very strong team next season.

Of course I'd be shocked and sad to see Kaka leave. He is my favourite player and an example to the other players.

Ultimately there is no concrete answer yet. There is no direct link nor agreement that suggests Kaka will sign for Real Madrid.
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Old 03-06-2009, 05:10   #129

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Kaka is staying for the last time
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Old 03-06-2009, 05:14   #130

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what the hell is going on?
kaka to rm and they say chelsea will go all out for pato.

what has happened to our club? we used to do the bullying now we have these c***suckers bullying us!!!!
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Old 03-06-2009, 05:33   #131

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Here's more fodder for the "BS" category...Milan are so cash-strapped that all of a sudden they're considering selling Kaka to Madrid for nearly 40% less than what Man City offered (100 million) back in January?

Sheesh. The whole thing stinks like yesterday's diapers.
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Old 03-06-2009, 05:50   #132

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I really wouldn't mind if Kaka was sold to RM, BUT only if we had Gorky, and sadly he is gone...

I donno but Arab media reported that the deal might be a hoax because Berlu has some kind of election next week and he wants to raise his popularity, Mancity style, anyhow they said every thing will be clear next sunday...also if Milan had a financial crisis they would accept the deal from the Arabs but Berlu was clear that he wont sale any share of the club..

I still think we would have a great season with or without Kaka, look at barca, they lost Deco and R80 and they won everything with a rookie coach.

Also the Milan ultras leader, i think he's called Baron ?! said that Kaka sent him a message that he is not leaving, and he said we are prepared to cause riots if he left, again Arab media suggest.
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Old 03-06-2009, 06:08   #133

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I really wouldn't mind if Kaka was sold to RM, BUT only if we had Gorky, and sadly he is gone...

I donno but Arab media reported that the deal might be a hoax because Berlu has some kind of election next week and he wants to raise his popularity, Mancity style, anyhow they said every thing will be clear next sunday...also if Milan had a financial crisis they would accept the deal from the Arabs but Berlu was clear that he wont sale any share of the club..

I still think we would have a great season with or without Kaka, look at barca, they lost Deco and R80 and they won everything with a rookie coach.

Also the Milan ultras leader, i think he's called Baron ?! said that Kaka sent him a message that he is not leaving, and he said we are prepared to cause riots if he left, again Arab media suggest.
Yes, Deco and R80, not Messi.

Kaka' leaving will be catastrophic because we will not spend the money. Also, in a few years, we will be bullied into selling Pato also. Galliani will complain about the tax.
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Old 03-06-2009, 06:12   #134

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So the Milan ultra numero uno has said Kaka has told him he is staying. Where does that come from, do you have something that can tell us it is true, Bender?
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