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Old 04-06-2009, 00:34   #196

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If Berlusconi plan is to dump Kaka in order to sign Ribery (hypothetical), it would be silly because Kaka is loved in Milan and proved that he can take this team to european glory. Milan arent selling Kaka because he is a bad football player. They want the money. Ribery would cost lot of money, not 65M euros, but he can go for 45+, thats for sure. What kind of business would that be for Milan? Sorry, no chance.
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:23   #197

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Berlusconi just wants to make a quick buck out of Kaka. He'll probably spend it on useless and overrated players like Drogba, Adebayor and Essien to name a few.

If he wanted to re-build a team, he just needs to sell Pirlo, Seedorf and Dida. Their wages alone can kill a club. According to Goal.com, Berlusconi is just trying to postpone the verdict because of the elections in Italy. I hope the fans in Milan cause a riot and dethrone Berlu. He is doing more harm than good to the team.

Get rid of the president first
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:24   #198

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Ribery is a very good player, but he is not half the player Kaka is.
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:26   #199

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If Berlusconi plan is to dump Kaka in order to sign Ribery
There's no plans for that to happen now. Carlo wanted to sign Ribery 1-2 seasons ago when he was still in charge, but Berlu wanted Ronaldinho instead and the rest is history.
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:35   #200

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From what I heard, Kaka was unable to decide until all the details of the City deal was more or less presented in front of him. It was his entourage's job to glean all the info City were rather slow to give, they wanted to talk of their "Kaka project" first. Leite did indeed become exasperated at the City side's inability to give him the exact figure (moneywise).

I think this is what is going on right now. Kaka's entourage is trying to collect all the benefits accepting this deal will entail, so that he can decide, which, in the case of City deal, didn't take him long.

I don't believe Milan already agreed to sell Kaka, for the simple reason they can not. A club can not agree to sell a player without the player's consent. What City took as "a Milan's agreement to sell Kaka" was purely a Milan's agreement to allow Kaka to study the deal. "I took that as an agreement from Milan to sell him, obviously" is what that Nike man told Skysport.

He was wrong (just like RM are now, in assuming Kaka is theirs). Milan merely gave Kaka the permissions to examine both deals. After kicking the City deal, Kaka made it clear that Milan did not agree to sell him prior to his final decision.



Whatever RM side claims, whatever B says, as long as Kaka says NO, he will come back.

And from what Kaka himself said two days ago, I am still convinced that he will stay. Purely because that's what he said. And what he says routinely turns out to be the only truth in all these sagas.

During the last four years, very long, four years, it wouldn't have made a slight difference had we all gone for a seriously long holiday and ignored all the speculations. We worried, ultimately, for nothing. What Kaka said, at the very beginning of the whole RM epic, "I am extending my contract just to show Milan fans I am not leaving", ultimately proved to have been true. And the majority of the press proved to have been reporting their guesswork as Rick rightly suggested.

Sheva came out as he was leaving Milan, in the midst of the speculation linking hiom to Chelsea. I will not change my mind until Kaka does the same. Because he will not leave like this: he is simply incapable of doing such a thing.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:12   #201

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Ribery is a very good player, but he is not half the player Kaka is.
I think he just as good as Kaka and younger (only by a year though I think) I've seen him play a lot and he can beat any defender, any defense on a normal day. If there is anyone who can really match Kaka besides Messi is Ribery. Only problem is that he's a winger. But if Leonardo wants to build a new era with wingers then he might as well build his team around Ribery.

He won't be cheap though. Bayern will do all they can to make stay.

If Kaka actually goes, my vote for the replacement goes to Ribery.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:22   #202

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Leonardo was not speaking about wingers like Beckham or Giggs who play on the flank as left or right midfielder. He spoke about our fullbacks pushing up and partizipating in the offensive game.
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:39   #203

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Look I'm just posting Galliani's explanation why milan have to sell Kaka.
I am not responsible for any heart attack suffered by certain readers.

I am not going to translate it so it takes more time to digest it.

"Ecco perché il Milan vende Kakà"
Galliani: "Arriverà un attaccante"
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"Il Milan non può perdere 70 milioni di euro ogni anno". Ecco perché i rossoneri si apprestano a cedere Kakà al Real Madrid. Adriano Galliani parla alla Gazzetta dello Sport: "Anche il cuore deve confrontarsi coi numeri" dice l'ad rossonero, "ma non stiamo smobilitando. Arriverà un grande attaccante, una mezzapunta, visto che il prossimo anno giocheremo col 4-3-1-2". E ancora: "Pato, Pirlo e Seedorf sono incedibili. I tifosi? Spero capiscano".

La cessione che era sfumata a gennaio sembra dunque ormai a un passo dall'essere realtà. "Ricky al Manchester City non voleva andare, a Madrid invece sì" spiega Galliani. "Il giocatore si è sempre comportato bene con noi, non ha mai chiesto adeguamenti o prolungamenti di contratto. E' stato qui sei anni vincendo tutto quello che c'era da vincere".

Parole che sembrano già un commiato. "La radice del problema è economica, l'Italia ha perso competitività e la Serie A deve lottare per non farsi superare dagli altri campionati" ribadisce il dirigente rossonero, che da tempo insiste sulla differenza di regime fiscale fra Italia e Spagna, differenza che sfavorisce chi gioca nel Bel Paese.

"Ma non ci stiamo ridimennsionando" assicura Galliani. "Non arriveranno Amauri o Adebayor, nè giocatori del Real, ma un grande attaccante, uno che giochi nella posizione di Kakà. Il Milan è pronto a ripartire, per tornare a vincere".

4 giugno 2009



at least Seedorf is not for sale........................
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:31   #204

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....well.. Glen Johnson or Wayne Bridge might be gettable right now with the money from Kaka's sale.

Carvalho if he still remembers how to play great.

Drogba..Berbatov..Henry...maybe.

Crucially, Milan will never have to go through this crap, EVER again.

I shall expect and demand B&G making a litany of irresponsible comments about wanting other clubs' players, just for the hell of it, from now on.

but the thing I felt quite disturbing, about this whole thing, was this euphoria among the press and people in general at kaka's leaving Milan. They seem to love to see Milan suffer. They seem unable to get enough of it.

After everything Milan suffered, for so long, this is simply sickening.

But Milan will survive, of course.

could do with a new owners, though, who have billions to spend.
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:31   #205

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Yes, I a part of this on goal.com
It says, in short words, Milan has to sell Kaka for the money. They had prefered the higher bid of Chelsea but left the choice to Kaka. Kaka himself choose RM. There is no official statement/presentation now because Kaka is in Brazil to play with the national team and Dunga wants everybody to stay quit till the game is over.
Galliano also said that the club did explain it to the fans ???? and promised them to buy another " grande attacante", but gave no names.
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:33   #206

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Yeah, I saw the Galiani's interview for Gazzetta, the things are looking very bad... I'm starting to loose hope.

Expecially the part, when he was asked what would happen if Ricky one more choose his heart, Galiani replied that we all have hearts, but bla bla bla....

The desicion is made...
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:42   #207

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I am ok if Galliani does the similar thing like what Juve did when they sold Zidane.

Mexes/CB, fullback, Hernanes, Lavezzi should be able to buy from Kaka's and Goucuff's selling and there should be some money left especially if Boriello is included as part of Lavezzi's deal.

If I am in the charge, I will also sell Ronaldinho and add the money left from Kaka's & Gourcuff's selling to get Eto'o, with of course off-loading Seedorf.
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:49   #208

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Guys, i must admit its not looking too good at the moment and having read on the football italia website, the baldy galliani saying its about the money, i have no expectation of kaka staying. now that is a sour taste but lets be honest gents (and ladies) one player does not make a team. kaka is the best player, of that i have no doubt, but he hasent really turned up for the last 2 years. injured and always falling over looking for free kicks. he will be missed and leonardoi will have a job on his hands, but if it means we get a hungry player, the team realise its down to all of them to perform and not just one player, then its good. i have never felt so much dissapointment as i have over the last 3-4 weeks as a milan fan. the maldini incident, kaka saga. fresh start guys. lest stop thinking ofourselfs as world beaters, we are the underdog now, lets play like it. i want milan to get in every teams face and play them off the park, not rely on reputation. leonardo i have no doubt has a few aces up his sleave, he will unearth the next kaka and build a team that will win, of that i have no doubt. pato will step into the kaka void, ronaldino to return to his best knowing he is our main attacking mid - oh yes!

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Old 04-06-2009, 03:58   #209

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at least Seedorf is not for sale........................
That's 'cause he's not worth anything.

Anyway, the Bald Ego has spoken about selling Kaka for, er, "economic reasons."
http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/jun04a.html

Here's one part that stuck out:

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“Kaka has behaved well with us, he has never asked for any adjustments or contract extensions. He has been here six years winning all that there is to win."
Come again?
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Old 04-06-2009, 04:03   #210

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We're now officially a selling club to balance the books.

come on arabs buy Milan.
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