Summer mercato 2009

Maybe Berlusconi and Galliani know something we all don't......maybe Kaka suffering an injury which is very bad (could occur at any time) so they decide to cash on him early. it's only a theory

Wow.

How amazing is the human mind?

We have such emotions on the forum, and in particular, in this thread!

From the hopeless (myself included) to the calm, distanced outlook, to the fervent disbelievers that Kaka will leave, to the fanciful hopefulls who see CR7 as our next aquisition (while keeping Kaka!!!!)

I respect everyone's opinions though, however much I disagree with some.

I found it a wonderful exercise in psychology to see the varied posts here, all based on the central theme of Kaka's possible departure.

Indeed, some of the more pursuasuve posts have made me adjust my "Kaka is leaving certainty" from 100%, down to 80%...as I told a fellow Rossneri fan from Jamaica last nite on the fone.

So for me, Kaka has a 20% chance of staying.

CR7 though (and again IMO) has a 0% chance of coming here (except to shop in Milan)

I am however, intrigued by the lack of coverage on Braida/Leonardo's whereabouts/activities....hmmmm....makes you wonder...

A WC GK, Santaroce, Hernandes, and Adebayor arriving (and Kaka + Pato staying/Seedorf, Kalac, Dida leaving) would make it a perfect Mercato for me.

^^^ You still want a GK? I agree with everything else but I personally was pleased with Abbiati's contribution this past season. Unless you want to relegate him to 2nd choice, something I don't think he'll be too happy with.

I piani Milan senza Kakà Torna Paloschi Con Leonardo largo ai giovani

Galliani tratta il riscatto della punta del Parma. E a Zidane scappa: «Ricky ha già firmato col Real»

«A chi non piace il Milan? Tutti i giocatori vorrebbero venire al Milan». Parole pronunciate ieri da Silvio Berlusconi che dovrebbero ri-accendere la fantasia dei tifosi delusi per la cessione di Kakà. A proposito di Ricky, al di là delle dichiarazioni di facciata che vogliono la trattativa ancora aperta, va detto che a Madrid danno l’affare già bell’e concluso. Una frase in questo senso è scappata pure a Zinedine Zidane, uomo di fiducia di Florentino Perez, che alla partita d’addio di Vincent Candela ha detto: «Kakà ha già firmato per il Real». Riduzione dei costi Il Milan sta studiando il nuovo progetto cercando di seguire le indicazioni di Leonardo. Il brasiliano, appena investito del ruolo di allenatore, ha le idee chiare: vuole gente che corre, possibilmente giovane e possibilmente non di grande nome. Che cosa significa? Che il Milan si avvia ad aprire un ciclo basato più sulla sostanza che sulla forma. E’ vero che il procuratore di Eto’o telefona spesso a Galliani per proporgli il centravanti camerunense, è vero anche che pure Berlusconi sarebbe d’accordo sull’affare, ma si deve sottolineare comequesta trattativa sia in controtendenza rispetto alla nuova politica societaria. E difatti Galliani ha chiaramente spiegato al procuratore di Eto’o che, per avviare trattative, il ragazzo dovrebbe però ridursi lo stipendio (da 10 milioni annui a 6), cosa al momento improbabile. Progetto giovani A conferma del fatto che il Milan pensa soprattutto ai giovani, ecco arrivare la notizia che riguarda Alberto Paloschi. Il centravanti che ha contribuito alla promozione in serie A del Parma dovrebbe rientrare a Milanello: questi sono i piani di Galliani. Ieri c’è stata una lunga riunione con il presidente del Parma Ghirardi che ha chiesto, per la metà di Paloschi, il prestito di Abate e 7,5 milioni (da investire poi per arrivare ad Acquafresca). Galliani ha sospeso la trattativa, dicendosi pronto ad aggiungere al prestito di Abate soltanto 5 milioni. Oggi si prosegue la discussione, ma già si capisce che i rossoneri puntano forte sul centravanti, probabilmente su indicazione di Leonardo. Energia in mezzo Scordiamoci colpi di teatro o campioni da fuochi d’artificio, perché non è il momento e perché la cassaforte del Milan non li permette. Un ritocchino a centrocampo va fatto, lo ha ammesso anche Galliani. Piace molto il brasiliano Hernanes del San Paolo. Il cartellino costa più o meno 20 milioni di euro: si può trattare, maè difficile che la cifra scenda di molto. Sarebbe una scommessa, sullo stile Pato, ma probabilmente è necessaria perché il reparto va rafforzato. Non dimentichiamo che, lasciando perdere le comprensibili dichiarazioni di facciata dei dirigenti rossoneri, se il Chelsea arriverà a chiedere Seedorf (e lo farà), anche l’olandese potrebbe andarsene. Da tenere in considerazione pure Marigo (Parma) e Dzemaili (Torino): non saranno fenomeni, ma hanno margini di miglioramento. Pochi nomi noti In difesa, secondo Berlusconi, non c’è bisogno di interventi perché rientrano sia Nesta sia Kaladze. A dire il vero sulla situazione dei due centrali c’è più di una perplessità e quindi qualche aggiustamento sarà fatto. Si punterà su elementi giovani, senza una carta d’identità griffata. Il Milan ha piazzato a Cagliari il 22enne Astori, che è in comproprietà, e potrebbe rientrare. Davalutare anche i progressi di Albertazzi che fa parte della Primavera rossonera. Sono questi i nomi su cui si ragiona. Osservati speciali pure Santacroce, Bocchetti e Pisano.

CR7 and Kaka playing for Milan at the same time is pure fantasy. The only chance of seeing CR7 in a Milan uniform are as follows:

- No Kaka. Pure cash turnaround based on Kaka sale
- Kaka still with Milan BUT the sale of Pato, Pirlo, and Ronaldinho.

Not worth it.

Kakà will feel abandoned by society"
04.06.2009 19:54 di Antonio Vitiello articolo letto 2510 volte 04.06.2009 19:54 by Anthony Vitiello article read 2510 times
Fonte: sportmediaset.it Source: sportmediaset.it
© foto di Federico De Luca © photo by Federico De Luca Giancarlo Capelli, per tutti i tifosi il Barone (tra l'altro oggetto di Daspo),anche lui alla protesta sotto la sede del Milan, afferma che Kaka' vorrebbe rimanere al Milan ma e' stata la societa' a metterlo in vendita. ''Me lo ha detto lui stesso al telefono - ha raccontato Capelli mostrando sul display del cellulare una telefonata ricevuta dal brasiliano poco prima delle 15 -. Abbiamo parlato circa 5 minuti e mi ha detto che si e' sentito abbandonato dalla societa'. Giancarlo Capelli, for all the fans Baron (among other thing of DASP), also to protest under the seat of Milan, says Kaka 'would like to stay at Milan, but it' was the company 'to put up for sale.' 'I said it himself on the phone - told Capelli showing on the display of a cellular telephone call received by the Brazilian just before 15 -. We have talked about 5 minutes and told me that she' felt abandoned by society '. Mi ha detto che voleva restare ma il Milan lo ha messo in vendita''. He told me he wanted to stay but Milan has put up for sale''.
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So here you go. Kaka' is ebing sold out. Barone said it even 10 days ago and now again. Kaka' is actually close to Milan's curva. And also I have to say that the number of 300 people to protest is PATHETIC!

Berlusconi doesnt want to pay for Eto'o, doesnt need CB's and needs only Hernanes and few of our young free players. **** YOU.

Sheiks, buy Milan!

So did anyone notice that according to Sky Italia, we're in talks with Chelsea, aiming to buy Florent Malouda. Apparently Leonardo wants a winger. This is the best news I've heard concerning Milan this week, and maybe, just maybe, the management knows what they're doing.

Changing the tactical set-up of the team makes a ridiculous amount of sense, considering that we've been one of the most predictable teams in Italy for several seasons now. If Milan decide to play 4-4-2 with wingers who push forward, I am all for it.

And IF that is the case, we won't have -as much- use for Kaka as we did last season, because we'll be attacking down the flanks a lot more instead of playing with a trequartista.

Maybe the time is right to sell Kaka now (and don't think I am not grateful for his contributions to Milan, I have -loved- that player since he joined the club), simply because Milan needs to change and Real are offering a massive amount of money for him.

Perhaps Milan will actually have a stronger TEAM next season, instead of depending on Kaka to win matches. That has been our weakness since 2006, and it had to change. Losing Kaka isn't much fun, but it's not a disaster for the team either, as long as the club brings in quality players this summer. And I wouldn't believe what Berlusconi and Galliani are saying now, about the team being fine as it is. In the summer of 2002, Galliani said: "There's no need to strengthen our defence," even though all the fans were complaining. A few weeks later we signed Nesta.

I am actually becoming more optimistic about about Milan's future now. We wanted a revolution - now we've got it. Some sacrifices have had to be made, but it might be worth it in the end. You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. I think the real question here is:

Would we rather have Kaka and finish 3rd in the league next season, or win the Scudetto without him?

I know what my answer to that question is.

Even if Kaka leaves, it's not the end of the world.

We obviously recieve a lot of money, some of which is spend on new, younger players like Hernanes (whose name is being thrown around like his arrival is a certainty.. it will be hilarious if he doesn't).

Just the sale of Kaka won't make Milan a mediocre club. We still have quality players who didn't perform to their level this season. Seedorf is actually better than what he was this season. Hopefully Leonardo will bring that out in them.

The team required building with or without Kaka. Now we might have the resources to do that. The loss of Kaka will be big but not earth-shattering. Maybe the owners do have the club's and fan's best interest at heart and are thinking ahead. To rebuild a team, we need cash.

Our debt will also be reduced. Maybe Berlusconi will be more interested in the club after that.

Maybe they are people who have lost interest in the club (though if that was the case, he would look to sell it and in that case he certainly wouldn't sell Kaka). All this is ofcourse speculation but the sale of Kaka will only make things clearer.

Obviously the sale of Gourcuff seems like a big loss now and this leads me to think that the Kaka transfer saga couldn't be only a week old. Everyone knew Perez was coming in and they were making noises for Kaka way before he was elected. This means the management was atleast talking to Real when Gourcuff was sold. If this indeed is true, I don't know how to interpret it.

Maybe, just maybe, Milan will re-establish itself with a younger squad and come back in 3-4 years to start a new era of domination.

Or maybe, just maybe, I'm an idiot who has nothing better to do on a Friday evening than conjure conspiracy theories.

We'll see.. maybe, just maybe!

Actually Mystik, I am hoping Abbiati wiil stay and be our starter, and that we will get a WC back up...if there is such a thing.

+ Abbiati has only a few years remaining on the top of his game.

A lot of Italian posts today...can we get a translation plz?

devoted dm, I understand your post but I have to say that Kaka' can play in any club in the world and be their best player, and Milan is selling coz of a formation?

Milan should keep Kaka' and buy one CF, one CM, one CB and start with new coach and new game play. 4-4-2 or not, it doesnt matter. It can laos be 4-2-3-1...

Originally Posted by devoted_dm

So did anyone notice that according to Sky Italia, we're in talks with Chelsea, aiming to buy Florent Malouda. Apparently Leonardo wants a winger. This is the best news I've heard concerning Milan this week, and maybe, just maybe, the management knows what they're doing.

Changing the tactical set-up of the team makes a ridiculous amount of sense, considering that we've been one of the most predictable teams in Italy for several seasons now. If Milan decide to play 4-4-2 with wingers who push forward, I am all for it.

And IF that is the case, we won't have -as much- use for Kaka as we did last season, because we'll be attacking down the flanks a lot more instead of playing with a trequartista.

Maybe the time is right to sell Kaka now (and don't think I am not grateful for his contributions to Milan, I have -loved- that player since he joined the club), simply because Milan needs to change and Real are offering a massive amount of money for him.

Perhaps Milan will actually have a stronger TEAM next season, instead of depending on Kaka to win matches. That has been our weakness since 2006, and it had to change. Losing Kaka isn't much fun, but it's not a disaster for the team either, as long as the club brings in quality players this summer. And I wouldn't believe what Berlusconi and Galliani are saying now, about the team being fine as it is. In the summer of 2002, Galliani said: "There's no need to strengthen our defence," even though all the fans were complaining. A few weeks later we signed Nesta.

I am actually becoming more optimistic about about Milan's future now. We wanted a revolution - now we've got it. Some sacrifices have had to be made, but it might be worth it in the end. You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. I think the real question here is:

Would we rather have Kaka and finish 3rd in the league next season, or win the Scudetto without him?

I know what my answer to that question is.

I don't think anyone in this world if any a choice would prefer to build a team without Kaka than with Kaka.

So we use wingers, great, Kaka and Pato can play upfront and have 2 wingers and 2 CM behind them with Pippo/Polashi and Borreillo on the bench.

Secondly, change means letting go of deadwoods like Sheva, Seedorf, Kaladze, Dida and even Pirlo not your best player.

Bonera renews his contract until 2013.

Originally Posted by mrki

Kakà will feel abandoned by society"
04.06.2009 19:54 di Antonio Vitiello articolo letto 2510 volte 04.06.2009 19:54 by Anthony Vitiello article read 2510 times
Fonte: sportmediaset.it Source: sportmediaset.it
© foto di Federico De Luca © photo by Federico De Luca Giancarlo Capelli, per tutti i tifosi il Barone (tra l'altro oggetto di Daspo),anche lui alla protesta sotto la sede del Milan, afferma che Kaka' vorrebbe rimanere al Milan ma e' stata la societa' a metterlo in vendita. ''Me lo ha detto lui stesso al telefono - ha raccontato Capelli mostrando sul display del cellulare una telefonata ricevuta dal brasiliano poco prima delle 15 -. Abbiamo parlato circa 5 minuti e mi ha detto che si e' sentito abbandonato dalla societa'. Giancarlo Capelli, for all the fans Baron (among other thing of DASP), also to protest under the seat of Milan, says Kaka 'would like to stay at Milan, but it' was the company 'to put up for sale.' 'I said it himself on the phone - told Capelli showing on the display of a cellular telephone call received by the Brazilian just before 15 -. We have talked about 5 minutes and told me that she' felt abandoned by society '. Mi ha detto che voleva restare ma il Milan lo ha messo in vendita''. He told me he wanted to stay but Milan has put up for sale''.
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So here you go. Kaka' is ebing sold out. Barone said it even 10 days ago and now again. Kaka' is actually close to Milan's curva. And also I have to say that the number of 300 people to protest is PATHETIC!

Berlusconi doesnt want to pay for Eto'o, doesnt need CB's and needs only Hernanes and few of our young free players. **** YOU.

Sheiks, buy Milan!

Relax, get a drink, Berlu will sell Milan.

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

Gabriel, I agree and do think Leo and Braida are out there securing new signings for us, but I really doubt our signings will be CR7 and Vidic, as we'd be forced to spend an insane amount for just two signings. I think we'll think more modestly and will be looking at other players of high quality, but won't cost the same as a mega signing like CR7.

Still, having an attack of CR7, Kaka and Pato would be simply unstoppable if used correctly.

Well Dev, if Berlu sells part of the club to the Sheik, those would not be insame signings, right.

I just have the feeling that he is selling part of the club, period.

There is something I don't understand:
- it looks like we have a between 70M and 80M debt
- it looks like we could sell Kaka' for a price between 70M and 80M, officially to recover from that debt

And in the same time, there are plenty rumours that we could buy a WC striker (last rumours: Eto'o, Villa, costing approximately 30M for each), we could also buy Hernanes (something like 20M), and we could go for a defender (last rumour: we are linked again to Zapata who would cost something like 10M I think).

I was going to say that it's weird as we would remain with a debt of 60M (price of the players bought), I just forgot we sold Gourcuff for 15M, so our debt would approach the 45M ... and with our CL qualification, that will fall to approximately 10M.

(Hypothesis: That means that we can maybe prepare ourselves for another player to be sold during this summer, but who ??)

Anyway, if I understand the situation, that means: we keep Kaka' and keep our team like it is (which like a lot of people said here would be suicidal for the next CL and probably again for Serie A), or we sell Kaka' and reinforce each other department of the team (despite what said Berlusconi) ?

So we would lose Kaka' to have a team of 18-19 players instead of 11, which means we will probably not win the next CL but could do well (and who knows, if Leonardo is an amazing coach ...) but have a better chance to win Serie A.

I tried to see objectively how we could take advantage of such a situation ... and presented like that, it looks like selling Kaka' is the best solution, even if I'm against that sale.

PS: I just tried to think about it with my reason, my head, but of course, the heart says "keep Kaka' !!".