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Old 06-06-2009, 06:32   #3196

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Great deal ?
Robben is always injured half a season ...
So 65 plus Robben isn't better than 65 and nobody? He's a fine player when he's healthy. (I think he's a Milan fan as well. I recall seeing a thing when he was at Chelsea where they had him pick his all-time team and he had about six Milan players on it.)
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Old 06-06-2009, 06:35   #3197

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Robben is a great player...... but he also has a knee made of glass
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:29   #3198

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More Berlusconi jaw-flapping from Correo dello sport:

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MILANO, 6 giugno - Silvio Berlusconi all’attacco. Ieri pomeriggio si č collegato, in diretta telefonica, con Milan Channel e non ha risparmiato accuse e critiche a Kaką, ai tifosi del Milan e, ancora una volta, ad Ancelotti. Sul caso-Kaką Berlusconi č stato duro ma, informato delle esternazioni presidenziali, il brasiliano - che ha programmato per lunedģ una conferenza stampa da Recife, dove dovrebbe annunciare il trasferimento a Madrid ha manifestato ad alcuni amici un certo risenti*mento per l’atteggiamento del numero uno milanista che, in pratica, ha scaricato senza pietą le colpe del divorzio sulle spalle di Kaką.

Berlusconi: «Puntiamo su Ronaldinho»

L'INCONTRO - Berlusconi č stato fin troppo chiaro: «Io ho insistito affinché restasse al Milan. L’ho fatto qualche mese fa e Kaką, nonostante ci fosse per il Milan un’offerta stratosferica di 105 milioni di euro, č rimasto. Ora si č ripresentata una domanda insistente da parte di alcuni club, Chelsea e Real Madrid, che comporterebbe, mi dicono, un differente trattamento economico per il giocatore. Con Galliani ci eravamo dati appuntamento domenica scorsa. Avevo chiesto di incontrare Kaką, ma lui č partito per il Brasile e allora mi sono messo d’accordo con Galliani per avere una lunghissima conversazione telefonica con Kaką domenica sera o lunedģ prossimi. Se dovesse ripresentarsi una situazione analoga a quella di Sheva, ci comporteremo allo stesso modo, lasciando la libertą al giocatore e alla propria famiglia di fare le scelte ritenute migliori. Se Kaką dovesse andare a giocare in un’altra squadra, quello che il Milan ricaverą dalla cessione lo investirą per rinforzare il Milan e fare una squadra molto competitiva».

LO STRISCIONE - Berlusconi č stato durissimo anche nei confronti dei tifosi milanisti: «Quando ho visto (lo scorso 24 maggio, Milan-Roma; ndr), dopo tanti mesi che mancavo allo stadio per gli impegni politici, un cartello che diceva: “Berlusconi sgancia i milioni, sennņ vai fuori dai coglioni”, confesso che avrei voluto andare lģ e dirgli di vergognarsi e cosģ avrei voluto fare anche per il modo in cui si sono comportati con il nostro grande capitano Maldini. Essere tifosi del Milan non significa essere sempre persone perbene, abbiamo anche noi fra i nostri tifosi gente di cui ci vergognamo e ci dobbiamo vergognare».
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MILAN, June 6 - Silvio Berlusconi on the offensive. Yesterday afternoon it was connected, in direct call, with Milan Channel and has not spared accusations and criticisms of Kaką, the fans of Milan and, once again, for Ancelotti. On case-Kaką Berlusconi was tough but informed of the presidential outsource, the Brazilian - who has planned for a Monday press conference from Recife, where it should announce the transfer to Madrid with some friends expressed some resentment for the attitude of the number Wee one that in practice has downloaded mercilessly blame the divorce on the shoulders of Kaką.

Berlusconi: "We aim at Ronaldinho '

MEETING - Berlusconi was all too clear:" I insisted that I stay at Milan. I did a few months ago and Kaką, although there was an offer for Milan stratospheric 105 million, remained. Now it is again an insistent demand on the part of some clubs, Chelsea and Real Madrid, which would, I say, a different remuneration for the player. With Galliani we gathered last Sunday. I asked to meet with Kaką, but he left for Brazil and then I put in agreement with Galliani to have a long telephone conversation with Kaką Sunday evening or Monday next. If a situation were to occur similar to that of Sheva, we behave in the same way, leaving freedom to the player and his family to make decisions it deemed best. If Kaką were going to play in another team, what the Milan derive from the sale will invest to strengthen the Milan and have a very competitive team. "

THE BANNERS - Berlusconi was also tough against Milan fans: "When I saw (last May 24, Milan-Rome, ndr), after many months of failure to the stage for political commitment, a sign that said:" Berlusconi releases the millions, otherwise go beyond the hilt, "I confess that I did not go there and tell him to be ashamed and so should have done also for the way in which they are involved with our great captain Maldini. Being fans of Milan does not mean to be respectable people, we have among our supporters that we people ashamed and we should be ashamed. "
The interesting thing here is that Silvio is saying that he will leave the decision up to Kaka and if, like Sheva, his desire is to go, then he won't stand in Kaka's way. But Sheva was silent on the matter for a long time before coming out and giving his reasons for wanting a move to Chelsea. Kaka, on the other hand, has said during the past week that he definitely is staying at Milan. It makes no sense to be saying that Kaka might be sold to Madrid if he wants to go there when he's just said publicy he wants to stay. So obviously this is more crap from Silvio.

At least he said that if Kaka is sold they'll use the money to bring in new players rather than crying poverty.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:37   #3199

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And you actually believe Berlu.

Come on peeps, you guys are better than that.

Don't be fool by his words or actions or anything.
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:41   #3200

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Sometime it makes me wonder if Berlu and Galli actually knows that the media is making them look like fools. Then again, Morratti still has no clue in how to generate publicity despite winning 4 titles in a row.

I guess bad press is still better than no press. How sad our world turn into!!!!
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:48   #3201

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Pirlo isn't for sale, so I'd rule that out already (I'm pretty sure Pirlo has said he intends to stay). However, we have Oddo who should be sold and if we can sell Seedorf (though it looks likely he'll stay), we'd have some reasonable funds. I'd be happy to sell Kaladze if I'm honest, we can still get some money for him and his performances don't match his value.

I am still preying for Seedorf to leave, I just cant stand him anymore. As for Pirlo, well, he can stay now since GOurcuff is gone.
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:03   #3202

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If Milan want to move for Benzema now is the time. With Real, Chelsea, and Barca distracted by Kaka', Ibra, C. Ronaldo, Ribery etc. Benzema has slipped under the radar.

We should buy him if we sell Kaka'.
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:18   #3203

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If Milan want to move for Benzema now is the time. With Real, Chelsea, and Barca distracted by Kaka', Ibra, C. Ronaldo, Ribery etc. Benzema has slipped under the radar.

We should buy him if we sell Kaka'.

Hasan, Benzema isn't half the player that Kaka is, so even if we do buy him "IF" we sell Kaka, that would be a drop in quality up front.
I just don't see Pato strong enough to hold his own up there without two or more distractions.

This year, we did alright, not good, just alright, but for the most part it was down to having two players (Kaka and Pato) on the pitch who could weave magic, and two others (Becks and Pirlo, and at times Ronnie) who could connect the dots.

If anyone recalls what happened in the 07/08 season, we lost a whole bunch of games at home and away simply because we were too one-dimensional. All they had to do was to man mark Kaka, and we'd mess up the entire match. Seedorf couldn't do crap, and Pato only came in the second half of the season (and saved it pretty much because him and Kaka were there, otherwise we wouldn't have even been 5th...).

Losing Kaka right now would make us just as one dimensional as before, and I can't think of any other player right now, bar Messi, who can substitute him. So unless we swap Kaka for Messi, my humble opinion states that any deal which sees Kaka leave will be detrimental to us, simply because there is no one in the world that can fill that Trequartista role like Ricky.

I rest my case and wait for Monday before I make another verdict, but I think I've said all I need to.

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Guys what are d odds that should Kaka get sold to Madrid this summer, next season we win a treble?
Way lower than the odds that we play Madrid in CL and Kaka scores the winning goal that kicks us out of the competition. Get serious. It'd just be like Milan Vs Ajax all over (Champions League 94-95).

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Old 06-06-2009, 08:19   #3204

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If Milan think to selll KAKA then the we should buy Benzema, Hernanes, Fabregas, Mexes, S. Ramos if they think that buying all this players is impossible then KAKA sale should be impossible
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:39   #3205

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I am still in shock over the thinking that sees Seedorf as "unsellable" and Kaka as "for sale if he wants to leave"

I recall hearing that Milan would no longer go the $heva route, ie allowing players to leave when they ask for a transfer...while they remain under contract...

But everything in Milan these days is fluid.

Berlu will sell Kaka on Monday, that's my opinion.

Nothing I have read or heard has made me feel otherwise....in fact, the more I do read, the more convinced I am that he is going to Real.

I am still in disbelief that a player few fans here still consider to have sufficient value so as to render him "untranferrable" stays, (ie Slowdorf) while a player that has proven to be indispensable to the team is.....

Its ludicrous. Simply stupid.

Then again, I didn't build a media empire from the ground up either, and neither did most of the fans protesting Kaka's departure.

The emperor isn't infalliable though...and it seems as if he now has no clothes.
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:42   #3206

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I agree Benzema is half the player Kaka' is. I am not for the sale of Kaka'.

But if he goes, we do need quality replacements. Berlusconi wants to build a team around Ronaldinho, so in his mind we already have a replacement.
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Pls stop with all these Kaka's transfer talk as my virgin ears can only take so much.

Glad I got that away.

Well, Warro, I still believe Kaka is staying and I have a feeling Milan will spend tons of money on players in the summer while cutting off Seedorf, Dida, Kaladze and Oddo.
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Well if Milan sell KAKA (I hope not) we should add to the team players like Benzema, Hernanes, Fabregas, Mexes, S.Ramos

My team without KAKA would be:

----------------Abiatti----------------

S.Ramos---Mexes---Nesta---Zambrotts

----Hernanes----Pirlo----Fabregas-----

---------------Ronaldinho--------------

-------Benzema-----------Pato---------


Actually this would be a dream first eleven

But I'm still against KAKA sale he is our symbol

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Old 06-06-2009, 09:02   #3209

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Well, my team is this

Abbiatti
Srna-T.Silva-Santacroce-Zambro
Flamini-Gattuso
CR7-Kaka-Dinho
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:11   #3210

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Milan number one transfer target of the summer should have been to do everything possible to sell seedorf, seedorf has so awful this season i would of played emerson ahead of him. seedorf hasn't had any major or minor injuries to speak of plus the fact he earns 4 millions a season says to every sane milan fan that he needs to be sold. in opposition to what other posts say there are clubs out foolish enough to buy seedorf he is still regarded as a top player for some reason he needs a firm kick out of the Milan doors. even more compelling his most important function at Milan was to keep the ball and pass it to kaka now if kaka leaves seedorf value to milan is completely nullified so therefore under these circumstances he should be transferred to another team. what seedorf long term future anyway he is 33 how much longer can he play if he is lucky 4 maybe 5 years and what would be this transfer value in 2 or 3 season less than 100,000 euros. Juventus were smart enough to sell davids at the age of 32 Milan should do the same with seedorf he time is up at Milan i personally would like to clap him goodbye this summer rather than booing of the pitch in 2011 he should leave Milan on the best possible terms.
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