Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by mzk57

I think I know why Berlusconi wants Kaka out of ACM. Kaka is not just a perfect footballer, but also a perfect man with amazing personality, that every woman can fall for him. I am sure Berlusconi's so called 18 year old girlfriend, 'Noemi Letizia', has fallen for Kaka and this makes Berlusconi very angry so that he wants Kaka out of the club. ACM is still a very rich club and I can't see why ACM should have any financial problems. Its more of a personal matter of jealousy Don't believe me? Check it out:

http://www.google.com.pk/search?hl=e...d+girl&spell=1

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The thing is, though, that Kaka is such a devout Christian that I can't imagine he would do anything to jeopardize his marriage to his own beautiful wife, his family and his faith. So Silvio would have no reason to worry about something like that. I think Borriello would be the one he would have to worry about.

can anyone give me hope that kaka is staying. despite all the news reports claiming the contrary, i keep remembering that kaka said before leaving for brazil that he did not want to leave and that was his decision. i keep getting pissed when i see ppl talking about potential replacements for kaka, there can be no replacement for him. anyone have any hope he's staying????

Originally Posted by saby

can anyone give me hope that kaka is staying. despite all the news reports claiming the contrary, i keep remembering that kaka said before leaving for brazil that he did not want to leave and that was his decision. i keep getting pissed when i see ppl talking about potential replacements for kaka, there can be no replacement for him. anyone have any hope he's staying????

The news reports have always been wrong before. Just think of all the bogus news reports you've read in your lifetime regarding football.

Kaka said himself, only this past week, that "for the last time" he is not going to leave Milan and that he will continue to be a Milan player. Who has been a more reliable source in the past: Kaka or the European papers?

How many times have we seen this publicity act from Berlusconi before? Even he is now saying that he wants Kaka to stay and hopes he will stay. So if Kaka has no intention of leaving and Silvio wants him to stay, where is the problem?

I see no reason to worry about this until you see an official announcement that Kaka is leaving.

For what it's worth:

Bronzetti Sceptical On Ibrahimovic & Kaka Moves
FIFA agent Ernesto Bronzetti talked about the transfer sagas involving Milan's Kaka and Inter's Zlatan Ibrahimovic...

6 Jun 2009 18:55:24

The Spain-Milan axis seems to be at the centre of the biggest transfer saga of the summer.

Milan star Kaka seems close to joining Real Madrid, while Inter ace Zlatan Ibrahimovic is known to want a move to Barcelona. Will these transfers go through? Who better than respected FIFA agent Ernesto Bronzetti to shed some light on these issues.

"There is a negotiation between Milan, Real and Kaka," he told Sky Sport 24.

"Milan don't do things behind players' backs and vice-versa. This negotiation has been examined closely, [Adriano] Galliani has talked about it with Kaka and now it depends on [Silvio] Berlusconi and the player. It will be up to them, if Berlusconi doesn't sell him, he will stay at Milan."

Bronzetti is more sceptical about Ibrahimovic's proposed move to Barca.

"Ibrahimovic to Barcelona? I have the impression this won't happen," he continued.

"I don't see the right conditions, unless Barcelona decide to buy Ibrahimovic, but I don't think they will be able to do that without selling [Samuel] Eto'o, who will also be involved in the African Nations Cup and will be missing for one or two months.

"I have the feeling Barcelona will end up going for [Karim] Benzema."

Reportedly, the European champions have already offered Inter Eto'o plus 25 million Euros for Ibrahimovic, which was insufficient for president Massimo Moratti.

Originally Posted by Rick

The news reports have always been wrong before. Just think of all the bogus news reports you've read in your lifetime regarding football.

Kaka said himself, only this past week, that "for the last time" he is not going to leave Milan and that he will continue to be a Milan player. Who has been a more reliable source in the past: Kaka or the European papers?

How many times have we seen this publicity act from Berlusconi before? Even he is now saying that he wants Kaka to stay and hopes he will stay. So if Kaka has no intention of leaving and Silvio wants him to stay, where is the problem?

I see no reason to worry about this until you see an official announcement that Kaka is leaving.

that's the only thing that's giving me hope. i just wish that he's not pushed out by berlu, that even tho he wants to stay, berlu basically tells him he needs to go because they need the money. but i just can't see that happening, i can't see him being so cold-hearted and if he has said it is up to kaka, then all the fans know that he has always wnted to stay, they won't belive for a second that he would have wanted to go.

"Milan don't do things behind players' backs and vice-versa. This negotiation has been examined closely, [Adriano] Galliani has talked about it with Kaka and now it depends on [Silvio] Berlusconi and the player. It will be up to them, if Berlusconi doesn't sell him, he will stay at Milan."

if the decision is up to both berlu and kaka, why did he say that if berlu doesn't sell him, then he'll stay. like the decision is up to berlusconi ultimately.

Berlusconi denies forcing sale of Kaka

June 6, 2009

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AC Milan owner Silvio Berlusconi insists he is not pushing Kaka out of the Serie A club.

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Kaka: Expected to announce move in Brazil next week
Kaka looks ever more likely to move to Real Madrid and has called a press conference for Monday in Brazil where he is expected to confirm the world-record transfer.

Reports suggest the Brazil playmaker has been unhappy at the San Siro since Milan showed their willingness to cash in on him in January by accepting a bid from Manchester City.

However, Berlusconi claims he has always wanted Kaka to remain at Milan.

"I've begged him to stay at Milan," he told Milan Channel. "I did it several months ago and Kaka, despite the fact that there was a stratospheric offer of 105 million euros, stayed.

"Now certain clubs again made persistent enquiries, Chelsea and Madrid who will bring, they tell me, a different economic deal for the player."

Berlusconi admits they will not stand in Kaka's way should the 27-year-old decide he wants to move to the Bernabeu.

But the Italian Prime Minister will nevertheless have a last-ditch attempt to persuade Kaka to stay with the Rossoneri.

"(Milan general manager Adriano) Galliani and I arranged to meet last Sunday," he added.

"I asked to meet Kaka, but he had left for Brazil and so I agreed with Galliani to have a long telephone conversation with Kaka this Sunday night or Monday.

"If he presents us with a similar situation to that of Andriy Shevchenko, we will behave in the same way, giving the player and his family the freedom to make the choices they believe are the best."

Berlusconi insists the money Milan receive for Kaka - expected to be around 65 million euros - will be put back into the team.

He said: "If Kaka should leave to go play in another squad, I will invest what Milan receive from the sale to reinforce Milan and create a very competitive squad."

Reports in Italy suggest the Rossoneri are after Arsenal duo Emmanuel Adebayor and Cesc Fabregas.


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Originally Posted by mzk57

Robben is an exceptional player but injury prone. Plus the fact the he has lost a lot of hair, doesn't make him suitable for AC Milan.
As for Sneijder, well along with the hair problem, it must be noted that he won't be a direct replacement for Kaka.
And just for the record RVD Waart also has hair problem and a bit slower to be a direct replacement for Kaka.

LOL
Well, even Zidane descended and eventually retired when he lost almost all of his hair

Guys theres an article that sheds some light on milans financial situation.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=154260

Article is in italian translator does not work so well with techinical transaltions. But from what i can tell it is the Milan figures for year ending Dec 08. Would some be kind enough to take a look and share there findings?

Thanks

Some of my friends told me they saw Galliani tonight, in Sarajevo. I'm still not sure if they are joking with me, but if it really is true, it can't be for anybody other but Dzeko.

Kaka': Now is not the time to talk about my future.

http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esport...-15071,00.html

Originally Posted by pazj

Guys theres an article that sheds some light on milans financial situation.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=154260

Article is in italian translator does not work so well with techinical transaltions. But from what i can tell it is the Milan figures for year ending Dec 08. Would some be kind enough to take a look and share there findings?

Thanks

I did a quick, rough translation with IM Translator:

Remember this very well and this percentage figure on the Milan: 99.92973%, and 329.9 million euros. Both are intimately and inextricably linked to each other. The first is the almost total control on the Fininvest company rossonera the board in its report shows that "he carries on business direction and coordination to it." The second is illustrated in the management report to the budget year ended 31 December 2008, in part to the risks of liquidity, "the company has an adequate amount of committed credit lines, while letters of" patronage "of the parent Fininvest SpA for an amount of euro 329.9 million. E 'explained here all of the extremely Milan: The Berlusconi family holding company guarantees to the banks for its football to find the necessary funds to meet commitments, through lines of credit to be repaid no earlier than a date. To better understand the scope of the "patronage" must translate the figure in the old coinage: EUR 638.8 billion lire. A huge figure that leaves cover the broad shoulders, covering Milan: Competing with such a reality, it is virtually impossible for most of the teams in our league who are forced to make the fatal jump to balance accounts. Indeed, for companies belonging to the new league to league, founded by a few weeks, will be dominated even more than the old Football League (which also included the series B) and from Milan Berlusconi, also from interfering Massimo Moratti for Juventus and the House of Agnelli. The 329.9 million thus covering the needs of society rossonera. Do not create problems for the 76.99 million euro loss of Milan spa and 66.84 million in consolidated net increase respectively in the previous 32 and liabilities of 31.72 million. He thought "Mum" Fininvest to cover the losses with a series of payments against the principal. The "son" Milan needs money? E 'presto done. In the management report states that 'during the month of February 2009, the majority shareholder of Fininvest SpA, at the request of the company (ie Milan NDR), has provided a grant for funding consideration of euro 15.0 million. Are not a problem even the 110.8 million of debt of AC Milan SpA to banks and companies have not even factoring in about 114 million "for future advances of credit in respect of commercial contracts" as described in note integrativa. And speaking of the banking system, "no problem" even for bonds issued for the purchase of lavish campaign last summer: 10.5 million for Ronaldinho and Zambrotta to 4.5 million. The membership of the galaxy extremely Berlusconi is also noticeable in a voice revenues. In revenue from TV rights, amounted to over 109 million from the previous 102, you notice an increase of over 10 million of those paid under the contracts with Rti (group company Mediaset, Fininvest ie) which was entrusted with the transmission trophy "Luigi Berlusconi" that the previous year was up by Sky and is therefore returned to the family. The same Rti was exercised in January 2008 'the right of option of the license agreement of February 2006 concerning the rights of recovery and transmission of domestic league matches for the 2009/10 season. Imagine if they had done: it was an event unique in that rare group Fininvest which, remember, is based in Rome, breadth of the Nazarene, and not as commonly Segrate you think.

But there is more, the red budget also creates a tax loss. It, under the existing legislation on fiscal consolidation, it creates a benefit equal to approximately 33% of the parent sull'Ires. According to the notes to the 2008 budget to the Milan, within the tax consolidated group Fininvest, has produced the "remuneration for tax benefits transferred." According to the document, it "represents the related income tax benefits transferred to the consolidating Fininvest spa, in the form of tax losses." This benefit amounts to 23.35 million, a substantial "help", authorized by law and therefore perfectly legitimate, even more important than the 13.54 million the previous year.

Thus, given the power of the group owning the Milan is not an issue even the reduction in revenues from 257.8 to 218.7 million. The difference with the costs, amounting to 307.5 million (287.1 million in 2007), rose to 88.8 million from the previous 29.29. It will not be a problem even the new distribution of television rights in accordance with the law-Gentiloni Melandri, whose mechanism is shown briefly in the management report, which should lead to a decrease in this revenue in the coffers of the club rossonero and that of other large nostrano football in favor of small. Unless you want to change this rule and restore everything as before, with the bargaining rights held by any TV company with each operator. It hangs on an appeal by Sky in March 2008 with the EU Commissioner for Competition, Neelie Kroes. The vicar of Milan vice-president, Adriano Galliani, the all'Ansa thus commented: "we believe is the first in chronological order and others will follow even before other courts." And the owner of Milan, Silvio Berlusconi, said on Monday March 10 Antenna 3 in the "Monday rigor" led by Fabio Ravezzani that "it is clear that lies in Italy the chance to see the reduced availability of large teams and then reduced their ability to compete with the big European clubs. " The future President of the Council concluded thus: "I guess you have to speak in a different direction from what was assumed by the government of the Left." Perhaps you are waiting the outcome of the appeal of Sky to make the first move.

Originally Posted by Rick

For what it's worth:

All I see in this particular article is that the Italian FA know what exactly losing two of their star players would do to the entire Serie A, no more, no less.

Think about it, if those two were to leave in the same market with no one to replace them, who in the world would watch the Serie A anymore?

The league stands at a really tough crossroad, which is why they want to break away from the lower leagues and form a "Super Italian League" or whatever. Losing two star players would just lower the credibility of Italian football.

Honestly, if Silvio is blind to this, then he might as well live the rest of his life with no eyes. He's suppose to be credited as a Media Mogul?

before jumping on Silvio's back, wait for him to make the sale official.

I have been saying and will continue saying (and hoping) that this is all some kind of plan by Milan. There definitely is something cooking that we can't see.

Originally Posted by mrki

Berlusconi says we will invest from Kaka's money same way we invested with Sheva sale! HAHAHAHAHA!!! WOHO! then great, we'll spend one quater of that money for 2nd class player compared to Kaka' ( Trez, Toni, Lavezzi...) and the rest will go to fix the dept. Which is ridiculous coz, as someone said, its one quater final of CL and we are fine financialy. Aldough we have more money then 95% of European clubs!!!!

Sell Milan if you dont want to pay! Ultras said it right your cheep....

FYI Lavezzi is going to Merda... rite?

Originally Posted by mzk57

That is the second funny thing I have read today. I didn't know that. To add that Beckham was brought in to fill for Makelele

The first one was on Goal.com by a absolute DUMB called Sulmaan Ahmad. Whose Top-50 English players of all time included Gerrard at 18, Shearer at 15, Super Frank Lampard at 39 and the Hollywood boy, Mr. Beckham at 13

He would put the remaining 12 names tomorrow (I guess) and considering how foolish that guy is I won't be surprised to see Wallcot at 1, Crouch at 2 and Ramsey at 3.

Top 5 of English must include Frank Lampard, Alan Searer and Steven Gerrard (Lampard above Gerrard in ratings) + the 2 Bobbies of their WC winnnig team of 1966. Thats what I call 'A Perfect Rating'

(OOT)

You forgot Owen, Rooney, Gordon Banks, Peter Shilton, etc... I think the list was quite reasonable.