Summer mercato 2009

My milan 09/10 would look like this if i could choose:
Team A
frey
flamini--nesta--silva--zamb
gattuso--essien--r10--sneijder
pato--dzeko

Team B
dida(kalac)
drenthe(mattioni)--bonera(darmian)--zapatta(senderos)--maxwell(antonini)
foggia(beckham)--hernanes(cardacio)--rosina--ambrosini
sheva(viudez)--borriello(inzaghi)

coming in(10): frey, maxwell, drenthe, zapatta, essien, sneijder, foggia, hernanes, rosina, dzeko
out(11): kaka, favalli, emerson, maldini, pirlo, oddo, gorky, abbiatti, kaladze, janku, seedorf

Originally Posted by martin

My milan 09/10 would look like this if i could choose:
Team A
frey
flamini--nesta--silva--zamb
gattuso--essien--r10--sneijder
pato--dzeko

Team B
dida(kalac)
drenthe(mattioni)--bonera(darmian)--zapatta(senderos)--maxwell(antonini)
foggia(beckham)--hernanes(cardacio)--rosina--ambrosini
sheva(viudez)--borriello(inzaghi)

coming in(10): frey, maxwell, drenthe, zapatta, essien, sneijder, foggia, hernanes, rosina, dzeko
out(11): kaka, favalli, emerson, maldini, pirlo, oddo, gorky, abbiatti, kaladze, janku, seedorf

Your objective is to get rid of Abs and keep Kalac? That won't be an issue anyway, since Frey isn't going anywhere, but nonetheless it certainly wasn't Kalac who saved our cans on a semiregular basis last season.

Second, to think we're going to completely overhaul the roster by adding all those players listed in your "In" section is mighty unrealistic (like just about every other transfer wish list out there). It reeks of too much Championship Manager on the brain.

Not happening.

Originally Posted by martin

My milan 09/10 would look like this if i could choose:
Team A
frey
flamini--nesta--silva--zamb
gattuso--essien--r10--sneijder
pato--dzeko

Team B
dida(kalac)
drenthe(mattioni)--bonera(darmian)--zapatta(senderos)--maxwell(antonini)
foggia(beckham)--hernanes(cardacio)--rosina--ambrosini
sheva(viudez)--borriello(inzaghi)

coming in(10): frey, maxwell, drenthe, zapatta, essien, sneijder, foggia, hernanes, rosina, dzeko
out(11): kaka, favalli, emerson, maldini, pirlo, oddo, gorky, abbiatti, kaladze, janku, seedorf

I don't understand how Drenthe, Zapatta, Maxwell, Beckham, Hernanes, Rosina, and Ambro (now that he's the capt) would be OK with being a backup?

Definitely no way Beckham, Hernanes, or Zapatta would take a backup role. Borriello left before because he wasn't playing, and he would be unhappy being Dzeko's backup.

PS. I'm not talking talent, just the willingness of the players.

dzeko's scoresheet is quite impressive, but I doubt his ability holding the ball and createing space for others,graffite is their man for that job in his team.

dzeko is more a finisher than a target man we desperately need,I like adebayor in milan better.

Originally Posted by Kalstroem6

i dont expect anything from this midfield,Gattuso-Pirlo-Ambrosini and Dinho.static,slow,soft midfield,we at most can be 3rd with them.im very optimistic about them.
are we dreaming about next season?we will stay with like we were in midfield?Static,slow,predictable,soft midfield,now we'll add Ronaldinho to them now.now its Toni's or Trez round or Forlan.Galliani style of signings.

Yes, I just don't see this as an improvement to our last season.
Practically, the best player leaves and his side kick replaces him with all the same midfield we had last year but a year older.......read slower

Originally Posted by martin

coming in(10): frey, maxwell, drenthe, zapatta, essien, sneijder, foggia, hernanes, rosina, dzeko
out(11): kaka, favalli, emerson, maldini, pirlo, oddo, gorky, abbiatti, kaladze, janku, seedorf

Besides the fact that there's no way Berlusconi would sign the cheques to buy all these expensive players, Essien, Hernanes and Dzeko are all non-EU.

Guys, he is staying, a friend of a friend who knows someone who is a friend of.......you know the story.

Honestly, he is staying as I really don't see the reason of Berlu selling him. Don't you guys notice that on Sunday, Berlu told the world that everything must be done through me speech. Kind of familar right.

I am not going to list out reasons why I think Kaka is staying as I posted it out over the past few days and others had also said it.

Just one thing I really want to bring it up, where is Leo? No press had even spoken to him about this Kaka's transfer? Don't you find that strange?

I am still hoping for the introduction of CR7, Vidic and Santacroce on Monday night.

One more thing, why can't Milan sell Seedorf, even if the sell is 1mil, they can still save 10mil in salary for next year.

Just wait some hours from now when everything will be official, so the half here can say i was right and the other half to say nothing.
My thought, you can't say nothing because in some hours you maybe feel like a fool.
You can only hope and wait, don't say things that might change in some hours.

We all are alreday in panic of the final decision so please be calm and wait.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Guys, he is staying, a friend of a friend who knows someone who is a friend of.......you know the story.

Honestly, he is staying as I really don't see the reason of Berlu selling him. Don't you guys notice that on Sunday, Berlu told the world that everything must be done through me speech. Kind of familar right.

I am not going to list out reasons why I think Kaka is staying as I posted it out over the past few days and others had also said it.

Just one thing I really want to bring it up, where is Leo? No press had even spoken to him about this Kaka's transfer? Don't you find that strange?

I am still hoping for the introduction of CR7, Vidic and Santacroce on Monday night.

One more thing, why can't Milan sell Seedorf, even if the sell is 1mil, they can still save 10mil in salary for next year.

you are a strange kid gabriel489!


according to l'equipe we'll sign adebayor! arsenal will sign Dzeko.
gazzetta dello sport says that seedorf 100% sure will stay

hopefully any transfers revenues will go directly to the clubs management so Milan won't have to depend on berlusconi to sign the cheques. it is more important build a young strong team with cash used from the sales of player the debts can wait until next year i can't see any affect 70 million euro worth of debt will have on Milan. Manchester united are 600 millions in debt liverpool are 360 millions euro worth in the red and inter Milan are over 290 million euros in the red. hopefully the sale of Kaka and other players will herald some independence from Berlusconi and his ridiculous prestige buying. as for Foggia he already played for Milan and milan were foolish enough to sell him. we owe abate a turn at the San Siro hopefully he can become a established player for milan. Cardacio and antonini have also proved themselves in friendly games and uefa cup ties i would be happy to see them being starters for ac milan. to honest milan need one new striker another winger who can play cmf as well another second striker/amf as ronaldinho isn't up to the task a side back to replace kaladze or oddo a new centre back and a goalkeeper. i am going to state this again i would love dzeko to be a ac milan player he is awesome probably the next shevchenko and works his socks for any team. we should be very careful before buying another Brazilian especially since that twaz Dunga took the brazil post, he has undermined and attacked Milan at every opportunity it would not be wise to supply him with another top class player.

Originally Posted by johncharles365

hopefully any transfers revenues will go directly to the clubs management so Milan won't have to depend on berlusconi to sign the cheques. it is more important build a young strong team with cash used from the sales of player the debts can wait until next year i can't see any affect 70 million euro worth of debt will have on Milan. Manchester united are 600 millions in debt liverpool are 360 millions euro worth in the red and inter Milan are over 290 million euros in the red. hopefully the sale of Kaka and other players will herald some independence from Berlusconi and his ridiculous prestige buying. as for Foggia he already played for Milan and milan were foolish enough to sell him. we owe abate a turn at the San Siro hopefully he can become a established player for milan. Cardacio and antonini have also proved themselves in friendly games and uefa cup ties i would be happy to see them being starters for ac milan. to honest milan need one new striker another winger who can play cmf as well another second striker/amf as ronaldinho isn't up to the task a side back to replace kaladze or oddo a new centre back and a goalkeeper. i am going to state this again i would love dzeko to be a ac milan player he is awesome probably the next shevchenko and works his socks for any team. we should be very careful before buying another Brazilian especially since that twaz Dunga took the brazil post, he has undermined and attacked Milan at every opportunity it would not be wise to supply him with another top class player.

johncharles can you please use 'enters' and alineas in your posts that would make it much easyer to read!

If I say "sell Kaka'", people are going to trash me because it will be seen like a lack of respect ... so why can we still read from those same people who would say such a thing ("what a lack of respect") that they want Kaladze or Seedorf to leave ?!

This day will be like the one when Berlusconi announced at 23h45 that Kaka' wouldn't move in January ... all reports right now are about the fact that this move to Real is official even if there is no official statement. Anyway, I don't know what to think or hope right now, just wait and see, like rosoneri_11 said.

Someone said that Dzeko was more a finisher than a target man, it's true, and he also said that the one who had to create spaces was Grafite, it's true too, so he doubts Dzeko could do well in Milan (will4li I think ?). But I think Pato is better than Grafite and can do this job of creating spaces for Dzeko if Dzeko was to come ... Of course, this duo would be even better with Kaka' behind them as Kaka' can create spaces too.

I have never seen a player more overrated than Dzeko - probably Adebayor.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

If I say "sell Kaka'", people are going to trash me because it will be seen like a lack of respect ... so why can we still read from those same people who would say such a thing ("what a lack of respect") that they want Kaladze or Seedorf to leave ?!

This day will be like the one when Berlusconi announced at 23h45 that Kaka' wouldn't move in January ... all reports right now are about the fact that this move to Real is official even if there is no official statement. Anyway, I don't know what to think or hope right now, just wait and see, like rosoneri_11 said.

Someone said that Dzeko was more a finisher than a target man, it's true, and he also said that the one who had to create spaces was Grafite, it's true too, so he doubts Dzeko could do well in Milan (will4li I think ?). But I think Pato is better than Grafite and can do this job of creating spaces for Dzeko if Dzeko was to come ... Of course, this duo would be even better with Kaka' behind them as Kaka' can create spaces too.

Actually, I can't blame you if you say sell Kaka. I'm pretty sick of all these rumours all the time and this whole media frenzy gets to me, which I can imagine would also get to our other players too. We'd get A LOT of money for Kaka too and in all honesty, the way his group constantly demand wage increases also bothers me. We should aim to keep Kaka imo, as he's a brilliant player who is a massive part of our club. However, there are limits as to how much this stuff can go on, and if Bosco and co are always so ready to negotiate with other clubs and chase after the cash, then why should we stop them. I'm getting to the point where I'd probably just be willing to accept the offer if this is the way it is.

Seedorf and Kaladze are in different positions for me. Both have contributed a lot in the past and deserve credit for it. However, neither are playing to the standard expected of them at the club and at least in my perspective, that's why we should sell them.

Kaka said as late as June 2nd that he assured all Milan-fans that he wants to stay. Today Berlusconi says that if it's up to him, then Kaka will stay.

How can this go wrong? If he is sold then either Kaka, Berlusconi or both have betrayed us. I'd like to think that this will not happen and that Kaka will stay.