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Old 08-06-2009, 19:47   #3691

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haha guys wake up and smell the coffee

Dinhio is our number 10, he is our replacement for Kaka. He isnt going anywhere and we arent going to get a single world class proven player.

Why? What else were you expecting? People said the R80 deal was bad because we had Kaka. How could they coexist? Now that Kaka is gone, there's room to dance.

All you have to do is:

BELIEVE IN THE DINHO!
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Old 08-06-2009, 19:48   #3692

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I think fans sometimes forget that players are first and foremost responsible to looking after the welfare of their own careers. It is obvious Milan wasnt helping Kaka win things, we havent been guaranteed of CL places and have been no where near scudettos for God's sake for years. he had to go to win things, because this Milan isnt going to.

Galliani and Berlusconi on the other hand are responsible for the welfare of OUR club and they have been sh!t for the past few years. That is why they are to blaime
There are no guarantee that every team always win. What happen with Real Madrid? Were the players go out from Real Madrid when they got nothing after the succesfull time in 2002? Since that year Real was really bad in Champions League, a competition that the club really count.

If Kaka said that he wants a new challenge, I will respect it. For me he is no better than Sheva. Sheva at least admited the reason of his move.

Economic crisis.
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Old 08-06-2009, 19:50   #3693

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HE WAS FORCED OUT!!
thats what i get from his interview..
Ok, Berlusconi co. could influence his move but no one could force him. He rejected City last couple of months!
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Old 08-06-2009, 19:53   #3694

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haha guys wake up and smell the coffee

Dinhio is our number 10, he is our replacement for Kaka. He isnt going anywhere and we arent going to get a single world class proven player.
Kaka wasn't a world class proven player when Milan signed him. Neither was Sheva. Nor were a lot of players who became great players at Milan. There will be many more to come.

And Ronaldinho will do just fine. He may not never again be the player he once was, but if he's healthy and playing regularly (and being more the focus without Kaka) he'll do just fine. He's just now in what should be the prime of his career, so I see no reason he can't make a strong comeback as many great players have done before after a year or two of injury and/or bad form.
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Old 08-06-2009, 20:01   #3695

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Zambrotta---------Nesta-----------Thiago Silva-----------Jankulovski


Pirlo


Gattuso ------------------- Flamini




----------------------THE DINHO


Pato-------------Dzeko



This team will win the Serie A. It will also do well in the CL. I see no reason why we can't compete with the best. The past two years have shown us to be complacent and lacking hunger. We will be different next year. Next year, we win.
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Old 08-06-2009, 20:01   #3696

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Kaka wasn't a world class proven player when Milan signed him. Neither was Sheva. Nor were a lot of players who became great players at Milan. There will be many more to come.

And Ronaldinho will do just fine. He may not never again be the player he once was, but if he's healthy and playing regularly (and being more the focus without Kaka) he'll do just fine. He's just now in what should be the prime of his career, so I see no reason he can't make a strong comeback as many great players have done before after a year or two of injury and/or bad form.
3 years of bad time is really long time and in age 29 with average motivation it would be miracle for him to get into good form. I hope Leo can motivate him, otherwise we will only lose around 20 mil pounds (if we sell him this time).
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Old 08-06-2009, 20:08   #3697

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Ronaldinho is still Ronaldinho, I don't think it's fair to mock him. Earlier this year when asked who the best player in the world was Messi replied that it was still Ronaldinho. He is the most talented footballer of this generation, there's no doubt about that.

Will he be able to fill the void left by Kaka?? Probably not, but still he is potentially even better than Kaka. We spent 20M euro's on the guy, it was Berlusconi's personal choice, and like Sacchi said, Berlusconi should let Galliani do his job instead of meddling with everything, but with Kaka out we actually really need Ronaldinho. I don't know if anyone noticed, but he's a player that relies alot on his own confidence, and on the appreciation of the fans. He seems to grow when things go for him, and he seems to play better when the fans a cheering him, more so than most players.

The truth is that it's now or never for him, he's 29, physically there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to play, the Kaka sale has given him a second chance to shine, but what he really needs is the fans support.
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Old 08-06-2009, 20:09   #3698

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if anyone wants to see his interview at about 30'
it will be here
http://www.livestream.com/milanlive

I never heard Kaka speak before, but his voice sounds kind of sad, that just might be the way he naturally sounds when he speaks Italian.

Its good to stay optimistic, and a lot of people have posted on how Milan won after Van Basten retired and Sheva left. However, they forget the team we had in Van Basten's era, almost the entire team was world class, and Milan only won the Champions League in 2007 because of Kaka, not because we were a great team. So I find it difficult to stay optimistic about Milan being competitive given Milan's current economic situation and the team Leonardo is inheriting. Our only hope is that he turns out to be a tactical genius and delivers us the Scudetto.

On another note, I'm not a racist or anything, but I would like to see more Italians in the team, how many Italian players do we currently have thats in his prime? Pirlo maybe is the only one I can think of. If anyone watched the recent Italy friendly, I think many players showed their quality, albeit against Northern Ireland.

Regardless of Milan being competitive or not, I'll support them, even if they are in Serie B
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This should sum up about Ronaldinho


Barcelona Sold Ronaldinho To AC Milan For A Reason - Sacchi
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Old 08-06-2009, 20:14   #3700

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The team Leonardo is inheriting?


THE TEAM IS STILL GOOD!!!!!!!!

Name me one glaring weakness in our team.
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Old 08-06-2009, 20:25   #3701

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Come on guys, move on...

If you still love Kaka, then wish him luck and don't bash him
If you hate Kaka, then why bother talking about him?

For myself, I would like to thank him for the wonderful display he has given us in the past 6 years, for the trophies and for the 65m euro.
As for the future, goodluck in winning everything in spain, but not in CL

As some people say, BELIEVE IN DINHO, he still do us good. Now we need to spend the money wisely. We have 80m now, so:
- Dzeko: most probable right now, coz some site said that we already meet his agent
- Trezeguet : well, if borriello is still unavailable, then why not? as long as he is willing to accept bench role
- Ribery : bayern is likely to sell him, BUY HIM before RM does
- CR7 : too good to be true, but I wouldn't reject
- fabregas : I say a must buy!
- beckham : yes please, but no more than 2 years contract
- and please, a decent GK to backup abbiati
- maxwell/clichy (spell?)
- srna

With these players, we can make alot of variation:

4-3-1-2
Abiatti
Zambro - Nesta - Silva - Srna/maxwell
Gattuso - Pirlo/fabregas - Flamini
Dinho
Dzeko - Pato/Inzaghi

OR

Abiatti
Zambro - Nesta - Silva - Srna/maxwell
Pirlo/Beckham - Flamini/Ambrosini - Fabregas/Pirlo
Dinho
Dzeko - Pato/Inzaghi

4-3-3
Abiatti
Zambro - Nesta - Silva - Srna/maxwell
Gattuso - Pirlo/fabregas - Flamini
Pato - Dzeko/Inzaghi - Dinho

4-4-2
Abiatti
Zambro - Nesta - Silva - Srna/maxwell
Beckham - Fabregas/Pirlo - Gattuso/Ambro/Flamini - Dinho/Janku
Dzeko - Pato

And if we buy another good DC, we even can play the 3-4-3 or 3-4-1-2 like when we won Serie A with Zac.

It's all depends on B&G now, on how to spend the money. As for the 60m debt, can we cover for it if we win the CL?
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Old 08-06-2009, 20:28   #3702

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The team Leonardo is inheriting?


THE TEAM IS STILL GOOD!!!!!!!!

Name me one glaring weakness in our team.
Erm, goalkeeper? left back? subs/depth? Nesta is 33 and injury prone, Gattuso is 31, Zambrotta is 32, need I go on?

Its because of this kind of arrogance that Milan is in this situation, believing that we are great because we competed and occasionally won one trophy every season. Instead we should have been ruthless and try to improve every year.
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Old 08-06-2009, 20:32   #3703

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the thing that bothers me is, only 60mil?

I would bet if anyone went to Moratti with 60mil offer for zlatan, he would tell them to shove it! Come back with 100mil...

Kaka for only 60mil?

and who do we get? Real's rejects... Ronaldo, Emerson... wtf?

it seems like Real Madrid are playing Championship Manager and the are controlling our club... sending their faded stars and buying our best Stars!!!
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Old 08-06-2009, 20:34   #3704

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If leonado inherite the system carlo left(I don't think he has much choices,since the core players of old time remain), we'd better go for ribery and adebayor to fill the hole caused by kaka's exit.

We are starting a new cycle, let's see what will leonado bring us on the table.I personally favor more a new system and complete overhaul of lineups.our current system was tailored for kaka,since we lost him,and I doubt r80 will regain his best self with this old system,we need more dynamic and all-around skill set players like essien,hernance,ribery,adebayor.....and fullbacks with young legs.
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Old 08-06-2009, 20:36   #3705

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the start of the mercato, we were all dreaming of great signings... but we sold Gorky and Kaka... both still young...

I don't see us getting rid of any old players... team played poorly, and no one seems in danger of getting 'fired'...

this is really sad... really really sad...

we should have told galliani that our version of great signings were signing 'IN' players, not signing 'out'!!!
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