Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

Wow, I never thought this was going to happen. Sad, sad times the past two years being a Milan fan.

The Gourcuff sale looks all the more stupid right now don't it? I bet Yoann is regretting his decision to leave too, cause this could have been is shot to make it at a big club.

Tell me about... Gorky was the 1 player that could replace Kaka... coming off a great season with Bordeaux...

Now, we're hoping dinho will suddenly rise to the occasion, coming 3 poor seasons (2 with barca and 1 with us)... again, it's a big gamble...

Well, Kaka is gone......but we still have a lot of competitions to play in next year. And the management has ti figure out how we are going to do that, because one big piece of the puzzle will be gone next year. The money can be reinvested to build a great squad with the purchase of a few great players. Will that be the case???

We have the whole summer to find that out.

Originally Posted by zafrul

What's wrong with Seedorf leaving? or were u just being sarcastic...

I think I have to really start putting some smilie faces when it comes to Seedorf or else people might just believe that I am his fan or something.

Originally Posted by Rick

It's not that they couldn't play together. It's that they did not fit well together in Milan's style. That's why Ronaldinho did not play as much the second half of the season. Here's what Kaka himself said about it in December:



I think we should wait and see what happens before we bury Ronaldinho.

Look Rick, it your opinion and I respect, but I can´t agree.

Ronaldinho played with Kaka in Brazil NT in a 4-2-2-2 scheme(he and Kaka as AMD behind the 2 strikers). He had a great Confederation Cup, but at that time, he was a athlete. To be honest, he never was that good at Brazil NT, and as we said here: "theres is Club players and Seleção(Brazil NT) players", and Roladinho was(is) a club... But at least at that time, even choking in Brazil NT, he was a guy that run, look for open spaces, try to drible some one...he cares!!

After countless disapointing games, the chorus of: "Ronaldinho needs to play free as a second striker or a false winger" started at Brazilian Press with Ronaldinho claiming to play free as a second striker. Parreira droped the second striker and put Ronaldinho there. The result? Big Fail...

No one will fit in a team if they don´t take care of their body(in modern football). You play as you pratice, period. If he was a CF like Ronaldo, maybe, but at his position, he need to have speed, pace and power in the legs to do his role...

The last 3 years, Ronaldinho is a shadow of that amazing player that we saw. But what makes me mad is that he really doesn´t try anymore. Heck, Ronaldo in 3 months at Corinthians, even fat, run more than Ronaldinho the entire year at Milan...and I´m not talking about help the team in defense or work rate, I´m talking about run to create something, to score,to drible...

I hope you´re right and I´m wrong, but I will stick with what I said in the past before Berlusconi to buy him: It was a mistake, as Ronaldinho has show several times in Brazil that he doesn´t care about to be amazing anymore, as he clarly don´t want to pay the price to be a elite player again.


Sorry, but I have no faith...

I flat out refuse to believe that Kaka was not forced out of the club. I refuse to do so.
Kaka came out immediately after reports started about a possible move to say that he was staying. As a devout Christian, knowing in advance that he would change his mind would just make that statement a lie, which is something that would tarnish his image to no end. In the end I think Uncle Fester and Silvio convinced him that his sale would be "for the good of the Club" and thus he should help the Club in "the best way possible" i.e. Commit to the transfer. His line about how the club are doing financially, that is something that was taken from Uncle Fester's previous interviews, as such I think that is something that they used to convince him with.

He's smiling big at the press conference, yes, but what else can he do? He's going to club that he knows will appreciate him (Merdrid), and leaving one that has already once tried to sell him for a truckload of money (Us..). He's always said that he'd stay if he felt that the club and his ideals were on the same page, and I believe that this transfer marks the proof that he no longer believes in us anymore. He's been carrying the team on his shoulders ever since Sheva left, and 4 years is a very long time to do so. He wants to go to a team which needs him, but not so much that they'll lose without him. He wants a competitive team, which sadly, we have not been in ages.

As sad as I am about this transfer, the only resentment I have is with Management. In the past 4 to 5 years, we have been dropping in quality and standard. Our signings have cost us more than they have ever repaid us for (Vogel, Emerson, Olivera, Coloccini and Dhorasoo just to name a few who've actually been long forgotten) and have never lived up to the name which Milan of the previous two decades have built us up to be. Uncle Fester and Berlu only came to their senses briefly last season when we dropped out of contention for the Champions League (and the signings in that mercato were the best in over half a decade and managed to garner us a sorry 3rd spot). We come back to achieve nothing except a Champions League spot, and we sell two of the players in our team that could have played over 5 to 6 more years for us (Gorky and Kaka). Berlu has really shot himself and Italian football in the foot right now, and I can almost see the torches being set up for a riot in Milan.

I am currently holding my tongue until the end of the transfer market before I start talking doom and gloom, but as it stands, we are no better than an Arsenal with a toothless attack and a broken defense (they have younger players too). Actually, if I were any more rational, I would rate us a distinct Newcastle, and hope we don't die down like they did. We sold our best players, and at the moment, no replacements are on the way.

You people say believe in Dinho, and back up that statement with out Messi thinks he's the best and all that. Well, I can only go by what he's shown us last season, because a comment made about a player 3 years back is only valid for that player 3 years back. It does not stand now, and I can only hope that he can prove me wrong, but he has major boots to fill, and I really don't see him fitting it well.

At the moment, I hold a "wait and see" attitude with the team, but I highly doubt that I'll visit the Milan site in a while now (just to spite their viewer ratings, yes) since I already get all the news I need from all you nice people.

I also refuse to change my Avatar, I respect Kaka too much for what he's done for us to do so, and I do not believe for a minute that he wasn't forced/manipulated/cheated away from the team by the fat cats upstairs.

To me, Kaka was one in a billion for our team, I hope we'll be able to find Mr. One Billion and One soon.

Originally Posted by nefremo

Well, Kaka is gone......but we still have a lot of competitions to play in next year. And the management has ti figure out how we are going to do that, because one big piece of the puzzle will be gone next year. The money can be reinvested to build a great squad with the purchase of a few great players. Will that be the case???

We have the whole summer to find that out.

If Moggi is running Milan, I would say yes.

Come on, even if Milan do spend the 60Mil on players, they will end up getting wash up players like Luca Toni, or unwanted players like Babel, or injury prone players like Robben.

Now I am not saying I have no faith in Dinho, b/c I do and I think if it was not for Carlo not playing him since X'mas, we probably already see the best of Dinho. But the truth is that there are a lot of problems within Milan, and selling Kaka is not the answer, nor not bringing back Gourcuff. Internally, fixing the wage bills(cutting off deadweights and stop giving out stupid contracts) and genrating revenue. While on the pitch, re shape the defensive line and mobile the midfield.

From my point of view, selling Kaka is an easy and cowardly way out for Berlu and Galli. And I really can't believe a man like Berlu will choose to do this.
Selling Kaka is the going to be the end, it is only a beginning.
Maybe Pato, Flamini, Pirlo and Gattuso will stay for next year, but I am sure we will have this we must sell Pato, Pirlo and others to cover our debt......

This is a really bad sell for Milan, as there is only one loser in this deal and thats Milan.

What's all this selling our players bcoz we are debt crap?

I remember about 5 years ago, Real Madrid were 200mil in debt... They got out of it by some really smart moves (selling their traning center or stadium ro something like that), founds ways to cover that debt and still sign players like Zidane and Ronaldo...

In fact, come to think of it, Real has been coming to Serie A and taking all the League's best players (Ronaldo, Zidane and how Kaka)

I don't know how Real is being run, but their elections for Presidents really help... you don't do well just for a few seasons, out you go!

If Milan had elections, Berlu and Baldy would be long gone!!!!

I think Kaka has said he wants a competitive team, and wants to win titles... and the team has been crap for a few years now...

We can't expect him to have "World Player" seasons every year to win CL...

But don't worry, he will come back when he's 34 or when he has lost all form and confidence...

Maybe Kaka is just being polite and saving face for Berlu...

"I said i wanted to win the CL, not struggle for qualify for it... the team is crap and i'm sick of it"

So, this is the order we lose our team...

1. Maldini
2. Carlo
3. Gorky
4. Kaka

Hhhhmmmm.... Is it just me or would anyone else consider them really really valuable assets?

I hope no.5 in my list isn't going to be Pato...

Originally Posted by brk

The team Leonardo is inheriting?


THE TEAM IS STILL GOOD!!!!!!!!

Name me one glaring weakness in our team.

this is the same team that struggled badly in the last few seasons!! minus our best player Kaka! So I don thave too much faith in this team TBH. + the squad is ridiculously old and next season even a year older, so we are going more downhill!!

now on the positive side, we have 80m (gourcuff-kaka) to spend + some of the usual transfer money, lets say 40m! thats 120m the management MUST spend!!!

we could build a great team with that money! so not everything is lost. But on the other side I have very little faith in our management who screw up badly in recent years and have absolutely no clue in what their doing.


G.Rossi(25), Santacroce(15), Maxwell(10), Hernanes(20), Marchetti(10), De Silvestri (10), Cigarini (10), Foggia(15)
+ Seedorf OUT
I'm only dreaming guys

I agree with Brasileiro on Ronaldinho but I'm more than willing to give him a last chance to change things for himself and for the club. If there is anyone capable of stepping up and fill the void of Kaka transfer, it's him so we have to give him a fair shot this season (Pato is too young). Kaka in the last two seasons were not miles ahead of Ronaldinho this season. It's because our squad is so sh*t that we couldn't handle Kaka being injured.

It will be clear in the first two months whether R80 is upto it or not. There's nothing left to do but wait and see.

Maybe we can replace Kaka with the hottest talent in Europe, Gourcuff? Oh no wait, we've sold him as well...

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

I hope you´re right and I´m wrong, but I will stick with what I said in the past before Berlusconi to buy him: It was a mistake, as Ronaldinho has show several times in Brazil that he doesn´t care about to be amazing anymore, as he clarly don´t want to pay the price to be a elite player again.


Sorry, but I have no faith...

Unfortunately, I agree with you. What makes it sadder is that we don't have anybody else to turn to now, Seedorf as AM?

Hopefully, you will be wrong. After all, now that Ronaldinho owes Berlusconi a big one, let's hope that means something to him and he could somehow magically gets motivated.

You see, if Dinho plays well, Berlu will sell him next summer.
If he does not, he will be not for sale just like Seedorf and Pirlo now.

The thing is, if Berlu signs CR7 or someone like that this summer, it will proves that Kaka is the one who wants to be leave Milan.
WHile on the other hand, if they don't sign anyone, well then they are telling the truth about selling Kaka to pay off the debt

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

The thing is, if Berlu signs CR7 or someone like that this summer, it will proves that Kaka is the one who wants to be leave Milan.
WHile on the other hand, if they don't sign anyone, well then they are telling the truth about selling Kaka to pay off the debt

so either way, Brelu and Galli wins