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Old 09-06-2009, 12:56   #3946

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Seedorf is a good player, but he is really slow and he can't play 90 minutes.
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:59   #3947

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I'm thinking we might do well to take a trip back to the late 90's and see how Milan fared. We've had a good run, but it might get a bit ugly these next few seasons. Is Pato seriously going to go to Chelsea? Are we seriously going to let him? I feel like with Kaka' gone, why would Pato want to stay? Not that they're boyfriends or anything, but it must be quite a somber mood around Milan right now.
I think we might blow next year; i'm worried about being embarrased in the CL, and I think that most people can now believe that Italy is not a choice destination for top players.
That being said, I like the change and that maybe we'll compete in the Europa league for something new. Perhaps our main emphasis will be the coppa?
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Old 09-06-2009, 13:14   #3948

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Pirlo: Chelsea? We'll see.

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Okay, so let's be realistic. Pirlo, at 30, for 30 million? Love the player, but I would sell him.

If we get Dzeko, Hernanes won't come (EU rules). Mediaset says so also.

So, should we not go for players like De Rossi, Aquilani, Mexes, Santacroce, G. Rossi...yes all ITALIAN! What a thought.

Milan can be very smart with all this money and build a super team.

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Old 09-06-2009, 13:22   #3949

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Old 09-06-2009, 13:28   #3950

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Well, he's not looking for new players now that he's in the classroom all day long
How 'bout that
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Old 09-06-2009, 13:32   #3951

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Well, he's not looking for new players now that he's in the classroom all day long
How 'bout that
I'm sure LEO already knew he was coach, and hopefully he's given Galliani a list "Here, don't be a dumb a$$, just sign these players"...
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Old 09-06-2009, 13:42   #3952

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Pirlo: Chelsea? We'll see.

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Okay, so let's be realistic. Pirlo, at 30, for 30 million? Love the player, but I would sell him.

If we get Dzeko, Hernanes won't come (EU rules). Mediaset says so also.

So, should we not go for players like De Rossi, Aquilani, Mexes, Santacroce, G. Rossi...yes all ITALIAN! What a thought.

Milan can be very smart with all this money and build a super team.
I think it would be a brilliant sale. Pirlo has been injury prone, mistake prone, and straight-up SLOW!!

I've liked Pirlo for a long time, but it's been the beginning of the end for the last year or two.
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Old 09-06-2009, 13:43   #3953

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Filipe Melo is probably going to replace Pirlo if he leaves accroding to Galliani
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Old 09-06-2009, 13:47   #3954

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I made my last post simply based on an objective comparison between Kaka and Ronnie, no more, no less. The fact that we have one and not both at the moment still eats at me. Especially since the fact is we let the one with more potential and drive to recover his lost form go.

Everyone is basing their assumptions at the moment on the hope that Ronnie will do this, and Ronnie will do that next season. One question though, does anyone actually expect him to be able to play the Trequartista role at all?

I see him Left wing, maybe slightly central where Seedorf normally plays, but thats all. He's got no speed, he can't get past his markers anymore, not without the off-ball movement of his teammates (Becks, Sheva, Pato and Kaka from this past season). He's just not cut out to play center out and out. What makes anyone actually expect him to play in the Kaka role anyway? It doesn't make sense. At the moment, the only true Trequar on the team is Seedorf, which isn't encouraging at all. Not everyone can adapt to a new position like Pirlo (he's a one in a million).

As a fan, I hope to see the team do well, and at the moment, the best I can hope for is that we change our style of play to suit the players we have. That means we go 4-3-3 with two wide men, and that also means we play Pato out of position. He may not like it, but he's young and can adapt (or we can sell him and see what we can get for him). This would probably mean that we'll have to buy two or three quality wingers to sit on the bench. Either that or one quality striker who can play left, right and center. Any suggestions?


Oh and one more thing, if we really did sell Kaka and Gorky to settle debts, does anyone actually think that we'll have any more than a meagre 20 Mil to spend on new players? If whats been said were true, then I highly doubt that anymore than one or two players will actually come in for us, that is.... assuming they still want to.
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Old 09-06-2009, 13:55   #3955

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as much as i dont like seedorf or pirlo(this year's),i think it would be a big mistake selling them..

we cannot afford selling our 3(and only) creative players,all these years,in one market,no matter who comes they will need time to adjust in our game,we need those players to keep some balance,and keep this team's identity..

it would take at least a season for 3 new players to find themselves in a team,and they(pirlo&seedorf) have the most crucial roles especcially now that kaka's gone..beckhs is leaving too,gorky left,kaka also...imo seedorf and pirlo will be by far our most important players next season,and if they perform like last year,we re doomed,and it wouldnt be their fault,neither leo's..

its B&G's fault..they ve made the biggest mistake in their history in this club,there are ways to fix it..but not selling any vital parts,for god's sake..
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Old 09-06-2009, 13:59   #3956

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That's why I said Rick, much as skeptic as I am now, I would LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG if it means that Dinho's revival can bring us to success

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I dont quite understand who is going to play for Milan in the next season...Seems like we are going to suck throughout the whole next season.
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the midfield players seems so unnecessary without kaka i just can't imagine a long term future with seedorf pirlo and ronaldinho in the midfield. no offence but i midfielder i would like Milan to retain is pirlo, roanldinho is a awesome player no doubt but 29 how many more years can he be a top player 5 maybe 6. Seedorf is just a joke now and only fit for substitute roles and a start in the champions league appearance on occasion. Pirlo is really the only player that has real longevity with his style of play. I think a new approach is needed playing so many amf midfield players is crazy, maybe we can try using wingers for a while
I'm okay with the three midfielders you mentioned going or staying. I still think Pirlo and Ronaldinho are capable of playing at a high level (although probably not their past levels). Seedort is unlikely to be the lineup fixture he was under Carlo, but he can still be valuable if used correctly. All of them lend experience that might be helpful to any new players who might be added. On the other hand, it might be prudent to cash in on at least one or two of these players while they can still bring a decent price and add more funds to the kitty for rebuilding.

I'll be interested in seeing how Milan's style might change. There are times when lacking the width that true wingers provide has been a problem. We shall see.

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I'm thinking we might do well to take a trip back to the late 90's and see how Milan fared. We've had a good run, but it might get a bit ugly these next few seasons. Is Pato seriously going to go to Chelsea? Are we seriously going to let him? I feel like with Kaka' gone, why would Pato want to stay? Not that they're boyfriends or anything, but it must be quite a somber mood around Milan right now.
I think we might blow next year; i'm worried about being embarrased in the CL, and I think that most people can now believe that Italy is not a choice destination for top players.
That being said, I like the change and that maybe we'll compete in the Europa league for something new. Perhaps our main emphasis will be the coppa?
I think that the players are sad to see Kaka go, just as they would be sad to see any player they liked and who was an important part of the team go. But I don't think Kaka's departure is going to have any bearing on the decisions of others and certainly it's not going to spark a "rats deserting a sinking ship" scenario. And Pato did not go to Milan just because Kaka was there. There are still plenty of reasons for him to stay and be a big part of the team for years to come. He is only keeping his options open, especially with Carlo, with whom he has a close relationship. And if Chelsea were willing to pay the incredible amount reported in the media (45 million pounds) for Pato, it would be great business for Milan to accept anyway!

And I'm not sure why you would assume that Milan will be awful next season just because Kaka is not there. He was only one player. Milan will have others and even if none are quite as good as Kaka just yet, the squad might improve in other places. It doesn't make sense to believe Milan will be so bad next year when we don't even know what players will be on the team!
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Old 09-06-2009, 14:01   #3957

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The problem is this:
As mrki said "With Kaka, we needed 3 new quality players, now we need 5".

Mission impossible? Those late 90ties come back to my mind
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as much as i dont like seedorf or pirlo(this year's),i think it would be a big mistake selling them..

we cannot afford selling our 3(and only) creative players,all these years,in one market,no matter who comes they will need time to adjust in our game,we need those players to keep some balance,and keep this team's identity..

it would take at least a season for 3 new players to find themselves in a team,and they(pirlo&seedorf) have the most crucial roles especcially now that kaka's gone..beckhs is leaving too,gorky left,kaka also...imo seedorf and pirlo will be by far our most important players next season,and if they perform like last year,we re doomed,and it wouldnt be their fault,neither leo's..

its B&G's fault..they ve made the biggest mistake in their history in this club,there are ways to fix it..but not selling any vital parts,for god's sake..
We need to all understand that we don't have any "game" for anyone to adjust to. New coach, new system, new players. Even Gattuso who has been with us for quite a few years is going to need to adjust to the new system Leo is putting in place. If anything, now is the time to clear house and bring in the RIGHT creative players. Seedorf and Pirlo are dead-weight
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Old 09-06-2009, 14:04   #3959

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Filipe Melo is probably going to replace Pirlo if he leaves accroding to Galliani
Where have you heard this? Source?

Just a gentle reminder (and this not directed specifically at you)--please always post sources. I always make an effort to do so. It saves us a lot of frantic questions.

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Here it is-- http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...pe-melo-report

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Old 09-06-2009, 14:06   #3960

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when did Seedorf become a creative midfielder? he sucks big time..my dream is for him to leave milan in all honesty
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