Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by MiamiMilanista

We need to all understand that we don't have any "game" for anyone to adjust to. New coach, new system, new players. Even Gattuso who has been with us for quite a few years is going to need to adjust to the new system Leo is putting in place. If anything, now is the time to clear house and bring in the RIGHT creative players. Seedorf and Pirlo are dead-weight

no i dont agree,we may change a lot of things in our system,but those players know how to communicate all these years..they cover th space(they used to,at least) all together..they move and they know the way their temates move..dont forget theyve been playing for 7-8 years together,and thats a lot of time..

its like manchester selling scholes,or giggs so as to change..changes should come with balance and right timing..you cant change 5-6 players,starters, and the coach in one year,its disaster..

Originally Posted by Ryo

Everyone is basing their assumptions at the moment on the hope that Ronnie will do this, and Ronnie will do that next season. One question though, does anyone actually expect him to be able to play the Trequartista role at all?

Personally, I'm not assuming anything. The ones who are assuming are the ones who are convinced that Ronaldinho can't play anymore. Why would anyone assume that? All I want from Ronaldino is for him to put forth his best effort and play the best he can. If he does that, he will be a valuable player as Milan rebuilds the squad. And who says Milan will even use a Trequarista next season? Let's wait and see what Leonardo wants to do and how Ronaldinho reacts to the situation. There's no reason for gloom and doom. Milan was not, has never been, and never will be a one-man team.

Oh and one more thing, if we really did sell Kaka and Gorky to settle debts, does anyone actually think that we'll have any more than a meagre 20 Mil to spend on new players? If whats been said were true, then I highly doubt that anymore than one or two players will actually come in for us, that is.... assuming they still want to.

Milan didn't sell those players to settle debts. I was just reading (and I thought I posted it somewhere) a detailed article a few days ago about how Milan's financial position is actually relatively strong. Kaka was sold so that Milan would have the ability to buy players to rebuild the squad without going further into debt and jeopardizing their financial position (and without Silvio playing Roman Abramovich or Arab sheik and just writing a check out of his pocket). There is absolutely no reason for Milan not to invest in players now.

Hasan, FWIW it's on goal.com quoting Studio Sport

Originally Posted by spina_don

when did Seedorf become a creative midfielder? he sucks big time..my dream is for him to leave milan in all honesty

Have you only just begun watching Seedorf play? He's been one of the best creative midfielders in the world over the past 15 years. He's the only player to have won the Champions League with three different clubs (Ajax, Real Madrid and Milan) and he was a key figure in all of them!

In fact, I should add that when Milan won the Champions League in 2006-07 (Seedorf's fourth), he was voted the best midfielder in the entire Champions League!

Originally Posted by Rick

Sheva will surely be back at Chelsea with Carlo, but Seedoft said today that he has said "no thanks" to Chelsea because he is 100% Rossoneri and he plans to stay around for another three years or so.

WTF. Can somebody ask him to move to Chelsea with his good buddy Ancelotti....we really don't need him here.

Originally Posted by Rick

Personally, I'm not assuming anything. The ones who are assuming are the ones who are convinced that Ronaldinho can't play anymore. Why would anyone assume that? All I want from Ronaldino is for him to put forth his best effort and play the best he can. If he does that, he will be a valuable player as Milan rebuilds the squad. And who says Milan will even use a Trequarista next season? Let's wait and see what Leonardo wants to do and how Ronaldinho reacts to the situation. There's no reason for gloom and doom. Milan was not, has never been, and never will be a one-man team.



Milan didn't sell those players to settle debts. I was just reading (and I thought I posted it somewhere) a detailed article a few days ago about how Milan's financial position is actually relatively strong. Kaka was sold so that Milan would have the ability to buy players to rebuild the squad without going further into debt and jeopardizing their financial position (and without Silvio playing Roman Abramovich or Arab sheik and just writing a check out of his pocket). There is absolutely no reason for Milan not to invest in players now.

Great post! I sure hope you're right about Milan wanting to invest the Kaka money in new, younger players. I also agree with you that Ronaldinho could be a valuable player for us, if he makes an effort - and since he hasn't really been given a fair chance so far, I guess we have no reason to assume that he wouldn't. Even if he's only half the player he was three years ago, he still has extraordinary technique, vision and passing skills in my opinion - and in the first half of the season, he did in fact deliver in some of our crucial games.

WTF....now Pirlo is saying he may move to Chelsea!!! Is our squad just full or mercenaries?

It looks like it Arjun.

I guess Berlusconi should just line them up all at the door and slap them at the back of the head as they go out.

On a more serious note, I don't mind it. F them all if they want to leave. Let them go.

Originally Posted by MiamiMilanista

I think it would be a brilliant sale. Pirlo has been injury prone, mistake prone, and straight-up SLOW!!

I've liked Pirlo for a long time, but it's been the beginning of the end for the last year or two.

IMO, 2006 is the best year for Pirlo. Since then he has been in decline for the past 3 years with inconsistent performances. He was the most important player for us, even more important than kaka. I have already given up hope that he will return to his previous form, its best that we cash him on him at 30M and invest in other players.

Seedorf has always been inconsistent but does perform very well sometimes. But for the past season, that sometimes has not arrived even once. Sorry he got to go, its that bad. Only ancelotti would keep playing him.

Regarding ronaldinho, i don't know why people keep bashing him when he did in fact perform decently in the first part of the season and keep scoring important goals or creating the chances when we are struggling. Ancelotti just refuse to play him after the arrival of beckham and kaka is fully recovered. Now that these 2 are gone, i look forward to see how ronaldinho would do once again.

There are many promising players that we can invest in, i am not worried about that. The only worry we should have is whether leonardo can get the players to play out his game in time for the start of the season.

We don't really have an option...I don't think a club should keep a player against his will besides Pirlo doesn't exactly have a bunch of years left in him. If we get 30M we may want to cash in PROVIDED we can replace him. I think Milan may want to seriously consider buying replacements before selling to avoid the Sheva replacement situation where we ended up being forced to by Oliveira.

Pato meanwhile may just be acting immature. Maybe his Brazilian buddy Leo needs to have a serious talk with him.

Can you imagine the exodus at Man Utd when Fergie leaves if this is what's happening just because Ancelotti left (Kaka, Pirlo and Pato have all hinted that Ancelotti's departure started the train of thought....)

Barcelona President Joan Laporta believes Kaka's £59m move to Real Madrid sets a dangerous precedent for football.

Laporta insists the transfer distorts the market and doesn't help the football industry in the midst of a global recession.

“It's an opportunity to demonstrate that the market operates at other levels. To pay this sort of figure is outside of the norm.

“It's not adequate in the reality of the market, it actually distorts it,” Laporta explained before saying he would not be involved in a similar transfer.

Barcelona have been strongly linked with a £70m offer for Inter striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic in recent weeks, but Laporta's words suggest he has no intention of paying such a ludicrous figure.

“We only have to carry out a few retouches. I am calm,” Laporta concluded.


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4146/...5768173660.jpg

How pathetic. **** you Silvio!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Sy-NSTgFjs

Im all for the sell of Pirlo if we can get anything more than 20million. Seedorf too. If seedorf stays he needs to start playing a less role in our new set up.

Just read what i found in a forum.It seems that the things were done like this.


The post:
In his statement Kaka confirmed what we already knew, that the deal "was signed a long time ago". Why did they wait so long to announce it?

Because yesterday was Italian elections, and Berlusconi was worried that angry Milan fans would tip the election more. They already had anti-Berly groups formed, and he already has enough problems with the divorce, showgirls, and underage dating.

His delay tactics worked - there wasn't a football revolt against him and he won, but he still got a bad result. 35% instead of the expected 45%.

I wish Kaka all the best. He made it absolutely clear that his heart is with Milan, and it's obvious from his statements that Milan said "Thanks dude, but we need the money, so if you love us just go to Real".
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I'm waiting for your's opinion.

Originally Posted by Rick

Personally, I'm not assuming anything. The ones who are assuming are the ones who are convinced that Ronaldinho can't play anymore. Why would anyone assume that? All I want from Ronaldino is for him to put forth his best effort and play the best he can. If he does that, he will be a valuable player as Milan rebuilds the squad. And who says Milan will even use a Trequarista next season? Let's wait and see what Leonardo wants to do and how Ronaldinho reacts to the situation. There's no reason for gloom and doom. Milan was not, has never been, and never will be a one-man team.

Rick, here again you make another assumption that Ronnie will put forth his best effort. The main problem that I think everyone has had with Ronnie in the past few seasons aside from "injuries", is that he's not convinced anyone with making an "effort" at all. What makes you feel that this year will be different from the previous three?

Originally Posted by Rick

Milan didn't sell those players to settle debts. I was just reading (and I thought I posted it somewhere) a detailed article a few days ago about how Milan's financial position is actually relatively strong. Kaka was sold so that Milan would have the ability to buy players to rebuild the squad without going further into debt and jeopardizing their financial position (and without Silvio playing Roman Abramovich or Arab sheik and just writing a check out of his pocket). There is absolutely no reason for Milan not to invest in players now.

Here, you put up a great point about the money. What I ask is, what about the motivation to join our squad? We just sold our best player off, we are technically a team in transition (though some of our previous greats have gone as far as to say we are in decline). What would be the motivation of the players to actually come to our second tier club? We don't seem to be that good at challenging for trophies anymore, and the country's tax rate means that players can actually join a club with just as good a history as ours, but at the same time pocketing more salary. You have to face the reality, mate, we're just not as attractive a club as we used to be anymore.

Yes, we may actually attract talent to the club, and yet how many will be able to prove themselves? In the past 5 or 6 years we've attracted "talents" and maybe 3 out of a possible 35 have lived up to the hype, and the rest were all washed up, "proven" stars who still could not make the grade.