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Old 10-06-2009, 11:07   #4111

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19 million euros for sneijder and robben what a deal, nah robben alone would cost a minimum of 19 million euros. I hope Milan buys one of these player apparently if the galactico's come to Madrid part of the Dutch contingent is going to leave. apparently buying robben and van der vaart will be cheaper than normal. it would nice to take something back from Madrid personally i would like robben or sneijder or huntelaar maybe even saviola mercelo drethe.

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:20   #4112

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I like "30 million pounds + sneijder and robben" beter than the deal we got
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:32   #4113

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Well kick Dida out for a start..


Right, that'll fix everything. I suppose we should keep Kalac as well.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:54   #4114

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Right, that'll fix everything. I suppose we should keep Kalac as well.
Dida is on a massive salary, if Belusconi is going to start cutting the fat from the team he should start there. Plus Marchetti would have no way as near salary..
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well my choice of players would be between:

mexes,santa,frey,dzeco,zapata(?),hernanes(?) and any wc player in any postion(eto,adeba,clishy,cesk)...

i dont like these options that many have sggested:

snejder(not good enough),robben(he cant play seria,none in his style),montolivo(i dont think he can play in the level id like),melo(nth special),kajer,rossi(so overrated)

my realistic,ideal 11 as ive said before the transfer of kaka and gorky would be:

-------------abbiati
thiago---nesta---mexes/santa---zambro
--------rino-------flamini
-----gorky-----------------
-----------------kaka-----
----pato-----------------
--------------dzeko/eto/ade..

or we could put a seedorf/pirlo in the midle and play with one fc(especcially if it was etoo)
im sure it would kickkkkk

but since things have gone the wrong way,i cant find a realistic 11 that would be world class,and when i say realistic i mean with galliani and silvio in charge..
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Old 10-06-2009, 12:14   #4116

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Im pondering about the rumours of Cassano today.. no question he has talent, but Happy Gilmore comes to mind.. psycho!!!
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Old 10-06-2009, 12:18   #4117

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Im pondering about the rumours of Cassano today.. no question he has talent, but Happy Gilmore comes to mind.. psycho!!!
Hasn't he settled down some since he found his teenage love of his life though?

(Maybe the same will happen to Berlusconi.)
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well my choice of players would be between:

mexes,santa,frey,dzeco,zapata(?),hernanes(?) and any wc player in any postion(eto,adeba,clishy,cesk)...

i dont like these options that many have sggested:

snejder(not good enough),robben(he cant play seria,none in his style),montolivo(i dont think he can play in the level id like),melo(nth special),kajer,rossi(so overrated)

my realistic,ideal 11 as ive said before the transfer of kaka and gorky would be:

-------------abbiati
thiago---nesta---mexes/santa---zambro
--------rino-------flamini
-----gorky-----------------
-----------------kaka-----
----pato-----------------
--------------dzeko/eto/ade..

or we could put a seedorf/pirlo in the midle and play with one fc(especcially if it was etoo)
im sure it would kickkkkk

but since thing have gone the wrong way,i cant find a realistic 11 that would be world class,and when i say realistic i mean with galliani and silvio in charge..

I have a feeling our team might look something like this... Thats a big if they will spend....

-------------abbiati
thiago---nesta---mexes/santa---zambro
--------Pirlo-------flamini
-----Abate---Ronaldinho-----Pato
--------------dzeko
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I have a feeling our team might look something like this... Thats a big if they will spend....

-------------abbiati
thiago---nesta---mexes/santa---zambro
--------Pirlo-------flamini
-----Abate---Ronaldinho-----Pato
--------------dzeko
i think that with 80 mil available its a tottally realistic 11 (i mean you have only 2 new players..)
but imo not really a wc..


in your 11 i think we should be pondering a lot to dinho,in which i dont believe(as a lot of u do)..i d like t see gattuso in,abate will need time,im sure he would be a reliable sub but not a starter yet..and you've correctly put pato on the left because of dinho being a 10..im not sure at all..
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for the last time.
stop talking about depts..its ridiculous
stop talking about economical crisis..

i study economics(business of administration),and a gr8 lecturer gave a speech a week a go in my university,somewhere between his words,he said that economical crisis has not affected big european football clubs and it will never do,it may have affected some owners,but the stocks and the books of the clubs as firms are the most stable in the financial world..and that was sth that they all expected,because of the club's relation to it's customer(us,it's fans)..

silvio is vomit..he is the only one to have used this reasoning,because he is used to manipulting his audience..
I have a degree in Economics (social and economic sciences), saying the clubs are not affected is wrong. The clubs are not directly hit by this crisis of course, but undirectly, they suffer from it.

I think the crisis is worse in Italy than in France for example, so even if clubs are not touched, it's the people living in the country who are touched by this crisis (unemployment, wages decrease), so the clubs probably sell less shirts, there are probably less fans in the stadiums (the ones who paid their "season ticket" are ok, but the ones who pay for each game ...), we just don't know if they decreased the price of their tickets or not for example. I just don't know what are all the activities of AC Milan for example.

So actually, the clubs are touched by this crisis because all merchendising products are less sold.

Then, saying that this 60M debt is because of the crisis, it's sure that they probably think we are stupid ...

Let's say that this crisis can't help the clubs to recover if they had a debt before the start of this enonomical crisis ...
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Thats a great deal for Inter.
Not only r they offloading someone who wants out, they are also getting 10Mil+a player who is as good as him in return.

Why can't Milan do that with Real? To be honest, if the deal for Kaka was 50mil+Snedjer+Robben. Thats a good deal
Are you serious? Zlatan is the best striker in the world today, second to non. It was basicly him that won Inter the Scudetto this year. Remember Eto'o last summer? He was as done as Ronaldinho, and Barca didn't want him. Then he went and had 6 good months, scoring a lot of goals, but then in the last six months he has been terrible again. Hmmm, which Milan player with long curly hair does that sound like??

Sure he scored 22 goals, but he did that playing at the best team in the world at the moment. Barcelona usually had 70% + possession where 80% of that was on the other teams half. It wasn't unusual for him to miss 3-4 HUGE chances per game. He's not really that involved in the play either, but unlike someone like Pippo he doesn't really know how to move and he's not good in the box. As a matter of fact, I'm absolutly certain had Pippo played in Barca instead of Eto'o he would've easily scored 40+ goals.

Do you really think that Eto'o could work in Inter? Right now everything comes through Zlatan, he is the playmaker, the target man and the goalscorer, Eto'o is non of that.

Eto'o + 10M.... worst deal since Quaresma.
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I don't know how Coloccini played the last few years, but he is available ... he could go to Marseille for 2-3M. It's an example of good defender I think, who knows Milan as he already came (and failed) here, but that could be some kind of valid backup for the team (and what a low price) ?

Then, I think if we want a Real Madrid player, the fact that both teams are sponsored by Adidas will help us to get any player from their team if he is individually sponsored by Adidas too (it looks like Adidas played some kind of role too in the deal for Kaka', they made it easier), and the fact that Galliani and Perez are friends and that we already sold them Kaka' can also make it even more easy to get any interesting player from their team ... now, the question is, who can we get who could be useful in Milan ? I'm in trouble to reply this question !!
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I have a degree in Economics (social and economic sciences), saying the clubs are not affected is wrong. The clubs are not directly hit by this crisis of course, but undirectly, they suffer from it.

I think the crisis is worse in Italy than in France for example, so even if clubs are not touched, it's the people living in the country who are touched by this crisis (unemployment, wages decrease), so the clubs probably sell less shirts, there are probably less fans in the stadiums (the ones who paid their "season ticket" are ok, but the ones who pay for each game ...), we just don't know if they decreased the price of their tickets or not for example. I just don't know what are all the activities of AC Milan for example.

So actually, the clubs are touched by this crisis because all merchendising products are less sold.

Then, saying that this 60M debt is because of the crisis, it's sure that they probably think we are stupid ...

Let's say that this crisis can't help the clubs to recover if they had a debt before the start of this enonomical crisis ...
geo if you read my next posts after that,you ll understand what i mean,im saying that football clubs cant consider themselves affected by economical crisis compared to those who really are..

and no we have selled preety much the same produsts as we did,and the tickets have been sold as expected,just read my following posts to that,so as to not repeat myself..

as for the bolded part,it may be right it makes sence,but we cant say sth being sure..
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Also Maicon wants to leave Inter: transfermarketweb.com
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Are you serious? Zlatan is the best striker in the world today, second to non. It was basicly him that won Inter the Scudetto this year. Remember Eto'o last summer? He was as done as Ronaldinho, and Barca didn't want him. Then he went and had 6 good months, scoring a lot of goals, but then in the last six months he has been terrible again. Hmmm, which Milan player with long curly hair does that sound like??

Sure he scored 22 goals, but he did that playing at the best team in the world at the moment. Barcelona usually had 70% + possession where 80% of that was on the other teams half. It wasn't unusual for him to miss 3-4 HUGE chances per game. He's not really that involved in the play either, but unlike someone like Pippo he doesn't really know how to move and he's not good in the box. As a matter of fact, I'm absolutly certain had Pippo played in Barca instead of Eto'o he would've easily scored 40+ goals.

Do you really think that Eto'o could work in Inter? Right now everything comes through Zlatan, he is the playmaker, the target man and the goalscorer, Eto'o is non of that.

Eto'o + 10M.... worst deal since Quaresma.
Did you write about Eto'o ?!
Eto'o moves a lot, he asks for the ball even in midfield, he goes on the right, on the left, and he has good goalscoring abilities + he is physically good (not a monster). He is a totally different kind of striker than Ibrahimovic or Inzaghi.

Eto'o in Inter means Mourinho will have to change his formation because of course, Eto'o can't have the same role than Ibrahimovic, but Eto'o can score more than Ibrahimovic and be as important as him.

Actually, we should just try to hijack this possible deal (Inter stated there was no deal at all actually) because Eto'o, now Kaka' is gone, could be a very useful player for us as he can go on the right ... that could be some kind of Barcelona attack with something like

--------- Pato -----------
--- R80 --------- Eto'o --- (not wingers)

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My Christmas list if we want Italian players:
- Cassano (I'm not a fan but his agent makes him being available ... even if I read exactly the contrary one or two days ago, Cassano himself saying he wants to stay in Sampdoria)
- G.Rossi as some of you say he could be available (but Villareal won't want to sell him I think)
- Montolivo as even if he isn't a top player yet, he is a creative midfielder and can improve, that would bring some fresh blood in the team and some more competition in midfield
- Santacroce or Criscito as they could be both possible purchases I think if the price is right

I don't know if it would be enough, but it would be a good step forward to have a younger Milan and preparing the team for the possible new 6+5 rule in near future (of course, we have to bring all the other players) ...

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