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Old 13-06-2009, 08:57   #4456

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exactly! This Is The Way To Go!!

Now Please Some Italians!!!!!!!!
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Old 13-06-2009, 09:20   #4457

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I'm quite doubtful that we will manage to buy any big names, since it would basically just undo our earnings from the Kakà sale. We should definitely go for some younger italian players, but that would obviously mean that we aren't gonna be Scudetto or CL material this coming season.. maybe in 1-2 years.
Cissokho and Dzenko would be awesome signings, but for 45M (15 + 30), we would probably go back into debt.
I do not like the situation we have put ourselves into...
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yes, I wasnt reffering to Luca Toni
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And this LB that I've never heard of will probably cost us 5mln, while we should invest in one great fullback like Clichy that has secured quality!
Objected. Secured quality? That's not what happened when Sheva and Kaka' came.
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I'm quite doubtful that we will manage to buy any big names, since it would basically just undo our earnings from the Kakà sale. We should definitely go for some younger italian players, but that would obviously mean that we aren't gonna be Scudetto or CL material this coming season.. maybe in 1-2 years.
Cissokho and Dzenko would be awesome signings, but for 45M (15 + 30), we would probably go back into debt.
I do not like the situation we have put ourselves into...

Is Cissokho's tag price worth 15M? I don't like this... we always overpaid players, even a better one... I mean, Zambrotta is a good player but we could got him cheaper than 9M, or Borriello who cost 10,5M+Di Gennaro... oh well...
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Is Cissokho's tag price worth 15M?
Lyon has offered 14M for him. According to CdS (link here) he would prefer us over them, so if we offered the same price we'd get him (assuming Porto accept the offer).

Players dont come cheap nowadays....

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Old 13-06-2009, 10:36   #4462

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Is Cissokho's tag price worth 15M? I don't like this... we always overpaid players, even a better one... I mean, Zambrotta is a good player but we could got him cheaper than 9M, or Borriello who cost 10,5M+Di Gennaro... oh well...
we can critisize the management as much as we want but saying we always overpay is not fair. Everytime a big club shows up and wants to buy a certain player they have to pay more!! Look at the other big teams how much they pay for their players. for example real madrid who paid 30m for pepe, man utd paid 22m for nani, 22m for anderson.... etc. Big teams always need to pay more!!
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Sao Paolo: 'Milan are broke!'
Saturday 13 June, 2009
Sao Paolo are sarcastic on Milan's chances of signing Miranda and Hernanes. “Everyone knows they're broke.”

The Rossoneri have been linked with both Brazilian talents, but the rumoured offer of £20m for the pair is seen as insulting.

“Let's wait a minute,” joked technical director Joao Paulo de Jesus Lopes on Globoesporte.

“I need to find out how much a crate of bananas is worth, as that is how much they want to give us for both players.

“We know that Milan ended the season in the red and not even the £60m from Kaka's sale to Real Madrid was enough to balance the books.”

The actual price-tags proposed by Sao Paolo are far greater for the Brazilian talents.

“Miranda has a buy-out clause worth £11m, while to buy Hernanes you need at least £35m,” added the director.

“If an offer does come for our two players, it is more likely to arrive from Spain, as their clubs are financially stronger.”
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D'Agostino to Juve 'uphill struggle'
Saturday 13 June, 2009
Gaetano D'Agostino's transfer to Juventus is now “an uphill struggle,” announced Udinese directors.

The Italian international was all set to make the move to Turin, but problems arose when they failed to reach an agreement over which players to exchange.

“The negotiations for D'Agostino's switch to Juventus has entered an impasse that it is difficult to get out of,” Udinese director general Sergio Gasparin told Radio Radio.

“When we pin-pointed the players we were interested in, Juve put up obstacles. Therefore it is an uphill struggle now to complete this sale.

“We did not want to release D'Agostino anyway, but unfortunately when a big club like Juventus makes an offer, it is our duty to approach it the right way.”

Udinese had stated they wanted two out of these three players as part of the deal - Sebastian Giovinco, Claudio Marchisio and Paolo De Ceglie.

D'Agostino recently made his full international debut, impressing in Italy's 3-0 friendly win over Northern Ireland.
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why not hijacking juve's deal for him!! that way we wont have that EU-transfers problem (dzeko-hernanes). D'Agostino is class.
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I wonder if this whole debt thing--or at least the exaggeration if it--is a ruse by the management. After all, by pleading poverty they can claim they paid off debts with the massive Kaka' sale, and clubs will not overcharge them.

San Paolo ridiculed us saying we're poor, and our offer for Hernanes and Miranda is laughable.

I refuse to believe all of this. We pay Ronaldinho 6 million clean a season, and pay the rest of our players well also. We still have to offload some players, Oddo most notably.

I think Cissokho, Dzeko and another defender is very realistic. Also, I believe that if, God willing, these players live up to expectations we will have a great season.
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Old 13-06-2009, 10:41   #4466

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For Hernanes 40 milion Euros that is a joke..money don't fall of the sky my firend!!
20 milion for me ix max price for Sao Paolo #10..
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Old 13-06-2009, 10:41   #4467

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Objected. Secured quality? That's not what happened when Sheva and Kaka' came.
Kaka' was the player of the year in Brasil and half of the big clubs wanted him. Shevchenko had 2 brilliant years with extremly strong Dynamo K. back then. HE ripped apart everyone he played against in CL. He was considered the best young forward in Europe when Milan bought him.

News say we'll trade Boriello and give some money for Dzeko. Im not sure that it is a good move, unless Milan gets another forward that is NOT PALOSCHI.

But I wouldnt be surprised if we pay 15mln for Dzeko+Borri, and bring Paloschi and say its all the part of the "new circle".

Right now Paloschi needs more playing time in a club like PArma, while Boriello is needed in Milan. Or player like G.Rossi, Cassano...

Money uber alles for Berlusconi...
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I doubt cissokho will go for 15 million euros even Porto value him at 11 million euros i think a bit of negotiation is called for. This isn't like the brochi or emerson or ronaldo or even shevchenko deals this player is worth 8 or 9 million euros and in addition he will not be slow and useless. As for borriello true the highest goal count in a season he got before genoa was 10 goals he still is a regular goal scorer when he isn't injured maybe 13-16 goals a season. I do believe he has changed after his slap across the knuckles for drugs scandal he works harder and provide a physical presence in the box. Don't be so quick to discount him he has a lot to prove at Milan and will fight for the team. To reply to ZvonimirBoban you right Zambrotta price tag was retarded he really only worth 7 million euros at the most. He was bought to appease the fans and more importantly apparently buying him stopped Berluconi going after grosso who would probably fail in a Milan shirt. Any way Di Gennaro hasn't been that fantastic only really performing against Milan maybe he has something to prove.
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Who is this clown from Sao Paulo insulting Milan. Does he balance our books that he knows how much it would take to put us in the green???

And 35mil POUNDS for Hernanes????? I thought Aulas was crazy, but this Brazilian hero looks like he wants to get reach over night. What has Hernanes done to even demand a 20mil price? Unbelievable and such disrespectful comments. With 35mil pounds (42mil Euro) you can probably be in contention to buy a player such as Ribery.

I know that figures shouldn't always be taken so seriously, but this clown has really got me going with the disrespect he has shown to us......also with the crates of bananas he mentioned.
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I wonder if this whole debt thing--or at least the exaggeration if it--is a ruse by the management. After all, by pleading poverty they can claim they paid off debts with the massive Kaka' sale, and clubs will not overcharge them.

San Paolo ridiculed us saying we're poor, and our offer for Hernanes and Miranda is laughable.

I refuse to believe all of this. We pay Ronaldinho 6 million clean a season, and pay the rest of our players well also. We still have to offload some players, Oddo most notably.

I think Cissokho, Dzeko and another defender is very realistic. Also, I believe that if, God willing, these players live up to expectations we will have a great season.
I was also thinking about this.
we are the only 'big' team in europe who spends almost nothing in the last 4 years + we had shevchenko (45m) and kaka (68m) sales. We also managed to always come into the quarter finals in the CL for 5or6 years in a row, wich generates a lot of money, we even played 3!! finals.

I dont see anything why we should be in the red... or we must really have a terrible management.
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