Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by payne

i dont really like cricket,i may play it once in awhile, but i never watch, not even 20/20.

Same here. Just with friends casually. Had a terrible cricket accident once when I was playing serioiusly, and have since stepped away from it. Since then, i have played Australian football, and followed AC Milan.

Originally Posted by rizface

I think it's reasonable actually. When the team wins a cup there is a cash flow and who deserves some extra bonuses? the players.....yes I know with their contracts they should play their best, but a little extra incentive will never hurt the cause.

I "defended" the fact that there would be an option of 1M to give to Porto (not the players, it's another thing) if the team wins titles.

Originally Posted by payne

i know i havent been here for awhile, so i am not sure if this was discussed earlier, but what are you guys opinion on Hamsik of napoli.

now idk how legit this is, but i would be open to selling him to them if it involves a hamisk swap.
http://goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-...simo-ambrosini

So i would go all out 15-25mil + ambro for Santacroce and Hamsik.

I like Hamsik personally, he's dynamic and has great potential. I don't see why he shouldn't become a top level player in the future.

However, if there's one player I want from Napoli it's without a doubt Santacroce.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

To be honest, I am not trying to be harsh and all, but just by having T. Silva and Cissokho won't put us with Man U, Barcelona, Inter and even Chelsea or Real.

What bothers me is how one signing done by the MGT and most fans already forgot how bad Milan were the past two seasons, or the fact that the deadweights are still around, or the 50/50 chance on Dinho being his best, or the departure of Gourcuff and Kaka, and most of all, when Galli specificly mentioned T.Silva with Cissokho, it pretty much means, the MGT is done with the defense.

Ofcourse I hope I am wrong and that Galli and Briada are working on Zapata and Santacroce.

I agree that just T.Silva and Cissokho doesn't mean we're ready to compete with the top teams atm, but I think many see it as signs of improvement and that gives hope.

I hope we'll get rid of some of the deadweight in the squad, but mostly I hope Galliani and co don't rest on their laurels now. We still need a few excellent players to come.

Still, point is I think after some really bad periods, there are small signs of recovery, and that's given hope to many.

Originally Posted by tardissun

Maldini already did turn down one Milan offer as a youth coach, despite the fact that he'd probably get to work with his son in this role.

There are grumblings that he was upset with the Milan fans and how they treated him, especially on his final game, and Galliani for not publicly standing up for him.

I hope he returns to Milan in any capacity that he agrees to. He's a stand up guy and a Milan legend. Many players could learn from him, so I hope that you're correct.

But his sons are young ... will he move to England (I would understand if he wants to move from Italy now he is not a player anymore even if that would hurt me to see him on the bench of another team) ?

He said when he retired that he would apreciate to have a real role in Milan management and not something useless, but he also said he would firstly use his time now to be with his family.

So moving to England would be a weird choice ...

PS: And if he moves to Chelsea, his sons will go with him there ?! So it would be the end of the Maldini dinasty in Milan ...

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

I like Hamsik personally, he's dynamic and has great potential. I don't see why he shouldn't become a top level player in the future.

However, if there's one player I want from Napoli it's without a doubt Santacroce.



I agree that just T.Silva and Cissokho doesn't mean we're ready to compete with the top teams atm, but I think many see it as signs of improvement and that gives hope.

I hope we'll get rid of some of the deadweight in the squad, but mostly I hope Galliani and co don't rest on their laurels now. We still need a few excellent players to come.

Still, point is I think after some really bad periods, there are small signs of recovery, and that's given hope to many.

Galliani has already stated that the transfers made this season will be of young talented players. However, he won't be seriously breaking the bank for anyone, which pours further cold water over the Dzeko transfer.

It's the first time that Berlusconi doesn't seem to be too involved in this mercato ... and there are some signs, like you said ACMilan1983, that allow us to hope for a good mercato (despite the sale of Kaka').

It's strange but it looks like there will be no big name this summer, and that's not a bad thing at all ... and you know what, it looks like it is Galliani who is the true manager this time (surely, and I'm sure at 100%, with recommandations from Leonardo who was highly rated by Galliani as a scout, so maybe they did the right choice by putting Leonardo on our bench to re-build the team).

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

Still, point is I think after some really bad periods, there are small signs of recovery, and that's given hope to many.

I share the optimism. The first time I read the news Milan agreed with Porto, I was very happy. This guy is young but with some experience (even not heavy one but still performances in Champions League are important). I thought that he is just Grimi, Mattioni, Viudez, etc., but his price should diminish the assumption. His price seems too much for a player who only played 6 months with Porto, but a Milan fan said that Leonardo is the one behind this transfer or recommended this player (still never read this) and we already know that Leonardo is pretty good at rating players (especially young ones).

This is a 'bet' that Milan should take, like for Edin Dzeko, also similar like what we did to Pato otherwise Milan must spend huge money not only for the transfer fee BUT ALSO for the wages (I assume, wages for players like Chissoko and Edin Dzeko are around 2 mil) for big name players, just like we have done in recent years. Chissoko like other players who only made one (or less) very good season of performances could be a flop in the coming year or even better. That's why we need scouts or people who can notice attributes that could lead the decision on buying such of these players.

GUYS BREAKING NEWS. Mexes could be leaving with Janko going the other way. I know there has been speculation in the past, but fresh rumours have arrived. Wanted to hear that?

Milan To Offer Roma €10 Million Plus Marek Jankulovski For Philippe Mexes – Report
The Rossoneri are showing no sign of stopping their plans to strengthen the back line...
15 Jun 2009 09:38:52

Milan are back on Philippe Mexes' tail and the Rossoneri are prepared to spend €10 million and sacrifice Marek Jankulovski in order to get their man, according to Sportmediaset.it.

It is reported the San Siro-based club will try to tempt the Giallorossi by offering them the money plus Jankulovski and the co-ownership of another Milan player. Roma coach Luciano Spalletti is believed to be a fan of Jankulovski, while Rossoneri coach Leonardo is hoping to bag Mexes so he can play alongside Thiago Silva in central defence.

Voices claim Jankulovski's high wages could be an obstacle for Roma, however, the left-back, whose contract expires in 2011, could accept a pay cut in order to move south. There is also talk that the Lupi could offer the Czech star a three-year deal should the move take off.

Despite plenty of reported interest previously, Mexes has always claimed he wants to remain at Trigoria.

Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com

Don't know that Mexes is the best option, after seeing him get burned a few times, especially aginst Pato. Yet, he is still a solid defender with loads of experience!

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

Galliani has already stated that the transfers made this season will be of young talented players. However, he won't be seriously breaking the bank for anyone, which pours further cold water over the Dzeko transfer.

I think, Milan are right in the situation of Dzeko that they must be patient in dealing with Wolfsburg since (from what I read) Wolfsburg don't really need money but good players for next year campaign in Champions League. In other hand Edin Dzeko seems desperate to join Milan and rejected the salary improvement from Wolfsburg (higher than Milan offered to Dzeko).

Mexes will be good with T. Silva, as he has the size and strength to clear any cross coming in, while T. Silva will clean up behind him.
Also, 10M + Janku is a great deal. Just wish they will take Seedorf + Cash for De Rossi!!!!

A rumor I heard was Real offering 30Mil for Mexes, but I read that off Chinese site which isn't really reliable.

Originally Posted by Siregar

I think, Milan are right in the situation of Dzeko that they must be patient in dealing with Wolfsburg since (from what I read) Wolfsburg don't really need money but good players for next year campaign in Champions League. In other hand Edin Dzeko seems desperate to join Milan and rejected the salary improvement from Wolfsburg (higher than Milan offered to Dzeko).

If they want Champion's league success, where else to look but our own team list. Pick what you want from our list of experience Wolfsburg. Seedorf, Oddo, Dida? Pick freely, just don't touch certain players. Hell, if you want Pirlo, we can do a direct swap for Dzeko, and you give us 5 million Euro!
Perhaps a bit extreme, but if we can't offer the money, we offer players to fill that void.

Just on potential transfers, what do you guys think of the possible return of Beckham. R u for or against it? Many of you will detest him, but i think he is fundamental despite his age. Outplayed Pirlo and was the main X factor in our team with his sublimal passing. Give him another chance i say, but all depends on Pirlo, if he leaves, and his form which is dipping.

Please, tell me!

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

GUYS BREAKING NEWS. Mexes could be leaving with Janko going the other way. I know there has been speculation in the past, but fresh rumours have arrived. Wanted to hear that?

Milan To Offer Roma €10 Million Plus Marek Jankulovski For Philippe Mexes – Report
The Rossoneri are showing no sign of stopping their plans to strengthen the back line...
15 Jun 2009 09:38:52

Milan are back on Philippe Mexes' tail and the Rossoneri are prepared to spend €10 million and sacrifice Marek Jankulovski in order to get their man, according to Sportmediaset.it.

It is reported the San Siro-based club will try to tempt the Giallorossi by offering them the money plus Jankulovski and the co-ownership of another Milan player. Roma coach Luciano Spalletti is believed to be a fan of Jankulovski, while Rossoneri coach Leonardo is hoping to bag Mexes so he can play alongside Thiago Silva in central defence.

Voices claim Jankulovski's high wages could be an obstacle for Roma, however, the left-back, whose contract expires in 2011, could accept a pay cut in order to move south. There is also talk that the Lupi could offer the Czech star a three-year deal should the move take off.

Despite plenty of reported interest previously, Mexes has always claimed he wants to remain at Trigoria.

Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com

Don't know that Mexes is the best option, after seeing him get burned a few times, especially aginst Pato. Yet, he is still a solid defender with loads of experience!

I am ok with Mexes even there should be other better options but I disagree with people that so reluctant from him. He is probably overrated but the way people express it that he is soooo overrated (that lead to my understanding that he is just like Kaladze ).

Oh yeah, I don't think the game against Pato can be really taken as very important point at evaluating Mexes ability. Roma were attacking and Milan got the ball and made counter attack with Pato which means Mexes must run as fast as Pato? Who can do that? Ok, Santacroce did well with Pato but did he had to run in situation like Mexes did?

From Mexes transfer I just hope the wages is not that high, not like we did before to our players (some improvement from his wages in Rome possibly).

I do not support the fact Milan is again not ready to pay for the player but are offering Jankulovski who is not slow and is actually a player with extreme stamina and running explosivity who is able to play very good as a LM/LW.

When we talk about our team we cant just look at first 11, serious team needs 17-18 good players. We need players like Marek, Antonini, Ambrosini, Bonera, Boriello...

I'd keep Marek and play him in rotation as a midfielder.
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Paloschi will remain in Parma for next year also. That is the deal and its a good deal for Paloschi who needs playing time in serie a.
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Ancelotti is asking for Pirlo etc. I dont know if we will really sell Pirlo just so we can pay for Hernanes, as that would also be disgusting to see after all the money we made this year..

I also agree with those who say people got bought with one signing! You forgot just how much we suck and now we dont have our best player. We didnt sign D.Alves, we signed 21 year old promising player. And we all know young and promising players dont win CL, never. Its crucial Milan now keeps players like Nesta, Pirlo ( yes... now its crucial), Gattuso, Ambrosini, Inzaghi, Dinho.
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Oh, about Mexes: As I've mentioned, I've heard about it yesterday from an italian forum. I would still sign Santacroce for who Pato said he is the best CB in serie a he played against...

I love you signature mrki, thats classic.