Summer mercato 2009

For god's sake, mrki, give it a rest. You don't own the team so stop talking as if they're burning your money. Berlusconi bought the team in the late eighties and he can do whatever he god damn well pleases. If you care so much, raise the money and buy the team yourself. If you can't, then shut the **** up about the finances and support the team.

Originally Posted by mrki

About Seedorf, he is not usefull when he is played 20 games per year and in CM between players like Flamini and Rino. Like he did last year when Pirlo was off. Then See played well. Also, I hope players will now work seriousely and not like they worked last year when some of them knew they will play first 11 100%.

EDIT:

Moratti will keep Ibra aldough the offer was 90mln. He'll invest in Deco and Carvelho after signing Motta and Millito. And still Arnautovic will be signed.

Juve signed Cannavaro, Diego, D'Agostino ( will be their player ), and will sign one italian LB. They will sell Trez and sign one Cf in his place.

I know Milan can make a strong squad, not a CL winning team but strong. but, a squad without identity and that is always in danger of selling its best player. Its a sad situation.

Milan now have no cult figure following the departures of Kaka and Maldini. Making Gatusso captain would have furthered his repuatation, yet they chose the relatively unknown Ambroisini. Hoping that if Dzeko arrives, he will have a bit of a following in Eastern Europe where he hails from.
Who will Milan look to when we are down and under? I doubt Ambroisini has the qualities to will his men over the line in the face of adversity. Or who can grab the game by the scruff of the neck with amazing ability like Kaka once did? None of our old players can do this anymore, so we are relying on some young player to step up or for Ronaldihno to return to some accpetable form considering his high standards.

Originally Posted by brk

For god's sake, mrki, give it a rest. You don't own the team so stop talking as if they're playing with your money. Berlusconi bought the team in the late eighties and he can do whatever he god damn well pleases. If you care so much, raise the money and buy the team yourself. If you can't, then shut the **** up about the finances and support the team.

Hey guys, please calm down! We are all on the same side here, are we not, unless any of you truly support another team, which I highly doubt due to your passionate responses! Both of you are equally right in your opinions, and mrki is just simply venting his frustrations at the sometimes hopless board.

Originally Posted by mrki

Moratti will keep Ibra aldough the offer was 90mln. He'll invest in Deco and Carvelho after signing Motta and Millito. And still Arnautovic will be signed.

The summer mercato is long ... It looks like it is Ibrahimovic who decided to stay finally (from reports, Moratti fixed a 94M price for him).

They could also lose their best player, Maicon ...

Let's wait and see before saying they did/do a good mercato. Also, there is no more rumour about Deco and Carvalho in Inter.

Originally Posted by Mrki

Juve signed Cannavaro, Diego, D'Agostino ( will be their player ), and will sign one italian LB. They will sell Trez and sign one Cf in his place.

If we did this mercato, you would say it's an horrible one except for Diego ... for D'Agostino, as far as I know, he didn't sign yet. So for moment, they just have Cannavaro and Diego.

The way you wrote about Juventus and Inter is like saying "Milan signed Cissokho (promising and already very good LB) and Dzeko (will sign soon). After them, the club is going to invest on Hernanes and Mexes/Miranda/CD."

Selling Kaka' is not loosing our identity, the retirement of Maldini is a lot more important than the sale of Kaka' for our identity ... but like it is a former player, who has also been a part of our club for the last 10 years as a scout, who is our new coach, I don't think we will lose our identity. I would worry a bit more if we also sell Pirlo, Gattuso and ... ummmh who else, let's say Nesta/Inzaghi ... or even Ambrosini or ... Seedorf !!

Saliwonczyk, if Berlusconi was to sell the club, I would expect him not to sell it to the richest people or the ones who offer the most but to the most passionate ones ... Arabian or not, I don't care, just passionate people who support/would support the club. Anyway, I'm not for a sale of Milan, anyway not nowadays.

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

Just on potential transfers, what do you guys think of the possible return of Beckham. R u for or against it? Many of you will detest him, but i think he is fundamental despite his age. Outplayed Pirlo and was the main X factor in our team with his sublimal passing. Give him another chance i say, but all depends on Pirlo, if he leaves, and his form which is dipping.

Please, tell me!

I'm for Beckham returning. He played well and could be a valuable sub/part time starter. If Pirlo or Gattuso leaves and we don't sign hernanes or another talented MF, then Beckham would be crucial. I don't want to fall back to relying on Ambro and Slowdorf.

Originally Posted by tardissun

I'm for Beckham returning. He played well and could be a valuable sub/part time starter. If Pirlo or Gattuso leaves and we don't sign hernanes or another talented MF, then Beckham would be crucial. I don't want to fall back to relying on Ambro and Slowdorf.

From Seedork to Slowdorf! Anyone got other names for him lol!

Originally Posted by brk

For god's sake, mrki, give it a rest. You don't own the team so stop talking as if they're burning your money. Berlusconi bought the team in the late eighties and he can do whatever he god damn well pleases. If you care so much, raise the money and buy the team yourself. If you can't, then shut the **** up about the finances and support the team.

Thats the most pathetic post i ve read for months now..
i m sorry for fans thinking like this..

I don't want Beckham to be back as it seems he played some role in the departure of Kaka' in Real (Kaka' said that Beckham explained him how it was in Real).

they say we give 10+marek for mexes..that would be an excellent move by all the means..
especcially now that we bought aly,we would just give 10 mil and a back up player(that is payed good) for one gr8 defender imo..

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

From Seedork to Slowdorf! Anyone got other names for him lol!

well personally i think its so disrespectful for seedorf..i understand people writting $heva and etc..but this is ungateful

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Yes, and ?
Seedorf can be very useful thanks to his experience and a good rotation from Leonardo.

Seedorf is now useless when he plays more than 30 Serie A games and all European games.

Just think about it, sell Seedorf if you want, but to do what ?
You won't buy a good midfielder with the sale of Seedorf, because at his age, don't expect more than 5M (7-8M at best) from his sale ...

PS: I'm not in the Seedorf haters bandwagon of this forum ... he was horrible this year, he was very average last year, there were some signs of decline two years ago, but he always plays. Just try to think how the player could be properly used. Too easy to say "sell him" like everyone says here. If we had to sell all the players who under-perform(ed), we would have to sell Seedorf this year, Pirlo last year, Ambrosini, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Dida, even Gattuso last year, Kaka' (oups it's done), Maldini last year or two years ago, Bonera, Ronaldinho, and actually most of our players regarding the last two years as none of them did two excellent seasons.

Yes, but you have to remember he's pulling in a salary around 3.5m - 4m.

That is alot for a bench player who is , slow, underperforming, and in decline. Yes, he has experience and CL titles, etc.. but what good is it if he's terrible when he plays and slows down the entire team in the process. Whenever he touches the ball, Milan seems to go into slow motion.

With Milan in financial difficulties, they cannot afford to become a charity because gosh darn, he's a good guy.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Mexes is about three classes above a healthy and inform Kaladze.

Mexes is overrated as he is not as good as how people rate him(top 5 CB in the world) but still miles ahead of anyone on the Milan team with the exception of Nesta(when healthy) and T. Silva(can't really judge him). In my opinion, he is a top 20 CB in the world/Europe and probably top 5 CB in Series A last few years.
He is strong, tackle hard and great at set pieces. He is a better version of Rio.

i cant say i disagree although i dont think people rate him that high..i think that if he joins us he ll be one of the best for sure..thiago silva is nowhere near mexes believe me..

edit:he is more similar to cannavaro,not so rio or nesta..he is fast and always goes first to the ball(thats the characteristic that reminds of canna,nesta (and rio not that good although) somtimes w8s so as to not make any mistakes,that why he makes fewer han canna),doesnt wait fo the fw's move..you know canna and nesta are not the same type of defenders,alhtough both of them spectacular..

How do you know that Thiago Silva is nowhere near Mexes ?

Anyway, with Mexes, that would mean 3 French players ... maybe more interest for Milan on French TV ?!

i ve watched some mathces of him geo,before we sign him and he didnt impress me at all,he was an average player..you know i hope as much as you that he ll become a g8 defender but i just dont think so..of course in milan it ll be a different story..

anyway i just think that we relay a lot to a player we dont know,and that doesnt know at all serie a..and for me he is not worth it yet..maybe he would be a better rb than cb,i m not sure..

Originally Posted by M.O.I.

i ve watched some mathces of him geo,before we sign him and he didnt impress me at all,he was an average player..you know i hope as much as you that he ll become a g8 defender but i just dont think so..of course in milan it ll be a different story..

anyway i just think that we relay a lot to a player we dont know,and that doesnt know at all serie a..and for me he is not worth it yet..maybe he would be a better rb than cb,i m not sure..

From your point of view, Thiago Silva is a new Sergio Ramos ?