Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by GeoTav

From your point of view, Thiago Silva is a new Sergio Ramos ?

haha you never know..

Originally Posted by M.O.I.

Thats the most pathetic post i ve read for months now..
i m sorry for fans thinking like this..

I think what he is saying is that we'd all like for our owner to splash the cash. However, that is beyond our control, so rather than complain, we have to see what he does this summer.

I can understand the frustration, but as the days go by, I get the sense that Kaka' was sold for several reasons. Money was one of them, but his injury had something to do with it as well IMO.

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

If we are to sell the club, better not to any Arabian oil groups. No racism involved, but just look at Man City as an example. The club has lost its sense of heritage and spirit with these crazy spendings, and people are now disrespecting them more than ever!

By getting rid of the players coach in Ancelotti (a move I liked, but pretty much all the players hated), selling the franchise player for quick cash and severely damaging the relationship with a club legend and supposed future club executive in Maldini, one can certainly argue that this team has already lost its heritage. As far as being disrespected is concerned, didn't that guy from Sao Paulo just ridiculed Milan for wanting to sign Hernanes and Miranda? When was the last time that has happened to this team? Maybe some fresh cash from the Arabs is exactly what this team needs to get some of that respect back as respect can be easily bought nowadays.

Originally Posted by slifersd

By getting rid of the players coach in Ancelotti (a move I liked, but pretty much all the players hated), selling the franchise player for quick cash and severely damaging the relationship with a club legend and supposed future club executive in Maldini, one can certainly argue that this team has already lost its heritage. As far as being disrespected is concerned, didn't that guy from Sao Paulo just ridiculed Milan for wanting to sign Hernanes and Miranda? When was the last time that has happened to this team? Maybe some fresh cash from the Arabs is exactly what this team needs to get some of that respect back as respect can be easily bought nowadays.

It also happened when we were trying to buy Ronaldinho.

Does anyone know when the decision about the non-EU number is being made? I have a feeling the Pirlo sale is hinging on that decision.

No, selling to the arabs won't buy you respect. Just look at Man City. You get respect by winning. If Dubai buys Milan, and Milan win the CL, we will be respected. Not just because of the money.

I don't think any cash bought from selling equality would be used to buy new players, firstly a proportion of the cash would be used to pay back berlusconi and the rest would be used to kick start stadium construction. If the arabs do come to own Milan the greatest legacy they could leave is a brand new stadium that makes 90 million euros a season and make Milan self sufficient . I don't think having new owners come in and spend 300 million euros on players that will be of the average age of 26 would be a better investment for the long term. Can Milan even afford huge wage bills just look at Chelsea 190 million euros spent on wages each season it unbelievable.

Look at the city rivals 310 million in the red planning to buy more 20 million euro players, it is not like they selling any top class player just surplus players. Morratti is putting Inter under huge amounts of debt in order to buy players what will be their legacy ? i doubt Milito Deco and Motta will win Inter the chmapions league so what to you gain 5 serie a titles in succession maybe it all seems pretty wasteful.

Originally Posted by mrki

I do not support the fact Milan is again not ready to pay for the player but are offering Jankulovski who is not slow and is actually a player with extreme stamina and running explosivity who is able to play very good as a LM/LW.

When we talk about our team we cant just look at first 11, serious team needs 17-18 good players. We need players like Marek, Antonini, Ambrosini, Bonera, Boriello...

I'd keep Marek and play him in rotation as a midfielder.
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Paloschi will remain in Parma for next year also. That is the deal and its a good deal for Paloschi who needs playing time in serie a.
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mrki, they're just rumours about Mexes, let's actually wait to see if we get him and how. I agree we need to build a strong squad, not just first team and I agree Marek is a good squad player to have, but until Marek is gone as part of the Mexes deal, there's no point in complaining about it.

Originally Posted by mrki

Ancelotti is asking for Pirlo etc. I dont know if we will really sell Pirlo just so we can pay for Hernanes, as that would also be disgusting to see after all the money we made this year..

Again, you're jumping to conclusions about this possibility. It seems Pirlo leaving is really unlikely, just as Hernanes coming this summer.

Originally Posted by mrki

I also agree with those who say people got bought with one signing! You forgot just how much we suck and now we dont have our best player. We didnt sign D.Alves, we signed 21 year old promising player. And we all know young and promising players dont win CL, never. Its crucial Milan now keeps players like Nesta, Pirlo ( yes... now its crucial), Gattuso, Ambrosini, Inzaghi, Dinho.
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Oh, about Mexes: As I've mentioned, I've heard about it yesterday from an italian forum. I would still sign Santacroce for who Pato said he is the best CB in serie a he played against...

I don't think anyone has been bought by one signing. As I said earlier it seems that this signing is a step in the right direction, and therefore we can have some hope.

By the way, 4 years ago when I joined the forum one of my first posts (possibly my first actually) was about Daniel Alves. Back then hardly anyone knew anything about him and I said how I think he's a great prospect that reminds me of Cafu. I advocated signing him and I got replies generally laughing it off, people assuming I had been playing CM. Fact is, looking at it today, it seems I wasn't off the mark in suggesting him. Cissokho is a young and highly promising player at the moment. While we're simply referring to him atm as a 21 yr old promising player, who's to say that within a couple of years we won't be talking about a world class talent?

We're not going to play with a bunch of kids next season. Cissokho and Dzeko are young and could build a part of our future. However, we still have guys like Nesta, Rino, Pirlo, Zambrotta and Abbiati in the side to provide balance.

Edit: Forgot to add. People are saying the club are ruining relationships with Maldini. I don't think this is the case. Maldini himself has said he's dedicated to Milan. He said Berlu's words were comforting and he admitted he felt Galliani may have taken his comments personally.

Wolfsburg's Edin Dzeko Still Milan's Number One Target - Report
The Rossoneri are still busy chasing the talented hitman as new details emerge over the Italian club's plans...

Milan are busy planning a strategy to finally land Wolfsburg ace Edin Dzeko, with club chief Adriano Galliani, sporting director Ariedo Braida, and coach Leonardo discussing the possible transfer, according to Calciomercato.com.

The trio are reportedly at the club's head office in Via Turati and Dzeko is the name on their agenda. The Bosnian hitman is wanted by Il Diavolo, but his club in Germany, Wolfsburg, have been playing hardball.

Milan have already sealed a deal for Aly Cissokho, and Dzeko is now being tipped to be the next recruit. Galliani has stayed tight-lipped over the powerful hitman, but hinted that he is still a big part of the club's ambition.

"Our market is actually like this, we have been after Cissokho for over a year and we also have Thiago Silva. Now our objective is Dzeko and we are waiting for Wolfsburg. If he doesn't arrive we will look for someone with similiar characteristics," Galliani is quoted as saying on Calciomercato.com.

Milan have clearly not given up on their target, despite resistance from Germany as Galliani sends a clear message.

Originally Posted by johncharles365

I don't think any cash bought from selling equality would be used to buy new players, firstly a proportion of the cash would be used to pay back berlusconi and the rest would be used to kick start stadium construction. If the arabs do come to own Milan the greatest legacy they could leave is a brand new stadium that makes 90 million euros a season and make Milan self sufficient . I don't think having new owners come in and spend 300 million euros on players that will be of the average age of 26 would be a better investment for the long term. Can Milan even afford huge wage bills just look at Chelsea 190 million euros spent on wages each season it unbelievable.

Look at the city rivals 310 million in the red planning to buy more 20 million euro players, it is not like they selling any top class player just surplus players. Morratti is putting Inter under huge amounts of debt in order to buy players what will be their legacy ? i doubt Milito Deco and Motta will win Inter the chmapions league so what to you gain 5 serie a titles in succession maybe it all seems pretty wasteful.

The cash brought in from selling part of the club doesn't have to be spent in the market as most would agree that the team needs to stop selling its top players first and foremost. If not spending too huge in the market for a couple of years would ensure the future competitiveness of the team, then all Milan fans would be fine with it. The only reason everyone is so pissed off right now is that the team spent nothing on the market for years now, and yet the future of the team still seems to be selling the best player for cash every year to finance any purchases. This team needs stability both on and off the pitch. Milan cannot try to sell one great player every year and try to replace him with some youngster that has proved nothing yet.

As far as Inter is concerned, here is the thing, no player in the world can guarantee a CL win. RM bought Kaka, Ronaldo, Villa and possibly more, but they still cannot guarantee a CL trophy come next May. The only thing a team can do is to become a better team every year so that they can have a better chance at the CL. That means, even though Deco, Motta and Milito can't guarantee you a CL win, they are still positive steps toward the big goal. Selling Kaka, on the other hand, is about five huge steps backwards toward that goal.

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

Wolfsburg's Edin Dzeko Still Milan's Number One Target - Report
The Rossoneri are still busy chasing the talented hitman as new details emerge over the Italian club's plans...

Milan are busy planning a strategy to finally land Wolfsburg ace Edin Dzeko, with club chief Adriano Galliani, sporting director Ariedo Braida, and coach Leonardo discussing the possible transfer, according to Calciomercato.com.

The trio are reportedly at the club's head office in Via Turati and Dzeko is the name on their agenda. The Bosnian hitman is wanted by Il Diavolo, but his club in Germany, Wolfsburg, have been playing hardball.

Milan have already sealed a deal for Aly Cissokho, and Dzeko is now being tipped to be the next recruit. Galliani has stayed tight-lipped over the powerful hitman, but hinted that he is still a big part of the club's ambition.

"Our market is actually like this, we have been after Cissokho for over a year and we also have Thiago Silva. Now our objective is Dzeko and we are waiting for Wolfsburg. If he doesn't arrive we will look for someone with similiar characteristics," Galliani is quoted as saying on Calciomercato.com.

Milan have clearly not given up on their target, despite resistance from Germany as Galliani sends a clear message.

Love that comment about Cissokho, you just have to wonder why Galliani didn't sign him for 300.000 euro's last year then

I just don't get how Wolfsburg can be so persistant about Dzeko. The player wants to go to Milan, he has two year left of his contract as far as I know. In the case that they wont sell, then Dzeko will either play two good years with Wolfsburg and then everyone will still be interested and he leaves for free after two years. Or he could play terribly for two years and then it really doesn't matter. I really doubt we're gonna pay 30M euro's, everything is in our favour in these negotiations.

In any case it looks certain that we'll get one more striker this year. Apparently Benzema is the other guy they'll look to if the Dzeko thing doesn't work. I just don't know about Benzema, he'll cost alot of money, just because he is from Lyon, but am I the only one that feels he might be a tad overpriced? Still riding the waves from the 2007/2008 season? There's still also Keirrison, anyone know how his last three months has been? He seems to have falling a bit off the radar here in Europe.

Gallaini says Milan will sign Thiago, Cissokho and maybe Dzeko or some other forward. That there are no moves for Hernanes and Mexes. He always lies and I hope he is lying again.

To the comments on my posts: Im not jumping on the conclusions, Im commenting on news and talking about them and the possibility they happen.

to M.O.I.: the pathetic thing are fans who feel fine by everything big boss does. That is exactly the tipe of fans they want right now.

to Brk: There are news Milan may "loan" the player from other team that will "buy" Hernanes. Juve did that with Mutu with Siena. So much about firm laws in Italia. We need Hernanes not to play DM like Pirlo, but to play central midfield role like old Seedorf did. Pirlo cant do that, or Rino, Ambro, Flamini 8 maaaybe to some point...), Seedorf ( cant anymore ).

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Wolfsburg have no need to sell him for less money coz Dzeko will play in there if they decide not to sell. He'll play CL and its not problem, he'll move on eventually, he is young. And Wolfsburg are as ritch as Berlusconi actually.

Benzema maybe had a bit of an off few months but he is a rilliant player. Remember Torres in his last months of Athletico - also a crisis.

Keirisson's form is normal, I dont see him as super class forward.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

I don't want Beckham to be back as it seems he played some role in the departure of Kaka' in Real (Kaka' said that Beckham explained him how it was in Real).

come on don't be naive. You think if Kaka never spoke to Beckham, Kaka would still be here? Kaka made his mind up to go to MAdrid well before Beckham arrived in Milan. Kaka was just asking advice from a player who has been in Madrid, after he decided to switch teams.

Originally Posted by mrki

Gallaini says Milan will sign Thiago, Cissokho and maybe Dzeko or some other forward. That there are no moves for Hernanes and Mexes. He always lies and I hope he is lying again.

To the comments on my posts: Im not jumping on the conclusions, Im commenting on news and talking about them and the possibility they happen.

to M.O.I.: the pathetic thing are fans who feel fine by everything big boss does. That is exactly the tipe of fans they want right now.

to Brk: There are news Milan may "loan" the player from other team that will "buy" Hernanes. Juve did that with Mutu with Siena. So much about firm laws in Italia. We need Hernanes not to play DM like Pirlo, but to play central midfield role like old Seedorf did. Pirlo cant do that, or Rino, Ambro, Flamini 8 maaaybe to some point...), Seedorf ( cant anymore ).

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Wolfsburg have no need to sell him for less money coz Dzeko will play in there if they decide not to sell. He'll play CL and its not problem, he'll move on eventually, he is young. And Wolfsburg are as ritch as Berlusconi actually.

Benzema maybe had a bit of an off few months but he is a rilliant player. Remember Torres in his last months of Athletico - also a crisis.

Keirisson's form is normal, I dont see him as super class forward.

Well the difference is that Atletico Madrid are playing in La Liga, while Lyon are in Ligue 1. No offence to Ligue 1, it has produced it's fair share of great players, but if we're gonna pay 30-35-40 M euro's for a player from Ligue 1, then he better be setting the league on fire, and let's face it, that's not exactly what Benzema is doing.

He's still a young talent, and in a few years he might be the next Trezeguet or Henry, but I still don't see what he has done that would justify a 30 - 40 M euro's transfer.

Originally Posted by rizface

come on don't be naive. You think if Kaka never spoke to Beckham, Kaka would still be here? Kaka made his mind up to go to MAdrid well before Beckham arrived in Milan. Kaka was just asking advice from a player who has been in Madrid, after he decided to switch teams.

I'm too naive ...

Beckham will only be able to come back in January, if we give him a 6 month contract, it's ok (until the WC), but if he comes, we are surely going to give him a 2/3 year contract, so I'm all against that.
It's the true reason why I don't want him back.