Summer mercato 2009

I agree with Nefremo about Santacroce (or even Zapata). Why we're not seriously after him makes no sense to me. Another player is Bochetti, who is another young defender that's coming through to the national team. Surely these guys are ones we should be taking a very serious interest in.

Originally Posted by mrki

The situation is well described when you realise that Maldini refused to work with Galliani in Milan in ANY role. It says all.

And this sallarycap is **** becouse we are not Arsenal. I are becoming one but its a sad event.

Leonardo knows well Pato isnt a winger and he CANT play as a winger becouse Pato has no defensive moves in his game by his nature.

More, this "I love Milan the way everyone should" stuff by Warro... I dont appreciate it. Love Milan the way you want, but people that riticise Milan and are bittered by the things that are being done by Silvio and Galliani love Milan as much as you! Romantic letters dont proove love more then something else.

And, people think we can play 60 games per year with 15, 16 players! .

If we insert LB and Cf in here. And wqe are generous to say Nesta, Pippo, Seedorf, Dinho, Pirlo etc are able to play lwithout injuries and extreme dips in form, even then we can see how thin this squad is.

We could all see what kind of difference a classic central AM makes against squad's that dont have that ( Azzuri vs Brasil ). To think dinho and Pato will play as a dinamic wingers is insane and delussional and came up from the head of Silvio who has lost compas.

We need a CENTRAL midfielder that can play vertically, Noone mentiones that and that is the MAIN thing we lack! player like Fabregas, maybe Hernanes.

And once Wolfsburg decides they have no need to sell their best player coz they dont need money, we'll stay with Toni on mercato.

mrki, you always seem so angry in your posts and many arguments don't make sense.

Maldini hasn't refused to work with Galliani, he himself said he wants to work at Milan in the future.

A salary cap and budgeting transfers isn't a bad idea. Football, especially with guys like Abramovich and Perez has gotten ridiculous with the way money is splashed around. Berlu kind of started this trend, but these days it's becoming worse. Given the current economic climate, which is created by lending money which doesn't exist, hearing about guy like Perez spending 140m and clubs like Man Utd and Chelsea in 500+m in debt is simply embarrasing. The football governing bodies need to tackle these issues and inflation cannot be allowed to continue in the industry. Milan's attempt to try and work on budgets is the corrrect course of action, but it means we have to be really careful where we invest. Salary caps also prevent us getting other Kaka like situations where we're constantly rising salaries.

I don't think Leo will use Pato as a winger, which is fine, there's no problem here. What Berlu says is inconsequential if Leo gets results.

I don't want to talk for everybody, but I don't think anybody thinks a couple of signings is enough (Dutchie-Milan possibly disagrees with me on this). We're realistic enough to know we need a high quality squad to compete. What we can't do though, is build a squad that can compensate for all key players struggling, as it results in having 30 players all aiming for starting spots.

We have a midfielder that can move vertically as you say and it's Flamini, and even Ambro (though he's got less quality). How we use players is important, and that will dictate the dynamics of the team.

I don't think we'll get Toni, but until we do we have nothing to complain about.

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

If we dont get Dzeko,rumours are saying we will go for the Brazilian Luis Fabiano of Sevilla,currently in action at the Confederations Cup,he scored twice against Italy and is an amazing striker,he has it all.He is also quite big and has a great movement.

Luis Fabiano is a very good player, but I think he's somewhat of a wildcard. He's either scoring goals for fun every match or he slumps, and this is shown in his past records. He's also got a fiery temper, though it seems to have settled in recent years.

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

If Santon can break trough because he got a chance,then why cant Albertazzi do the same,are Inter talents better than Milan's....!!!

lol, pretty much yes. It's pretty well known Inter's youth development is better than Milan's, which is pretty poor (it's only starting to improve).

Instead of paying so much for Adebayor or Dzeko i wonder why we never looked at Nilmar. To me he's a fantastic striker and if I'm not mistaken he has a passport. He is fast, good first touch and a good dribbler and has scored whenever and wherever he's played. Doesn't look too strong though. He's 5'-11" not too short....i dunno there are soooo many good players out there it shouldn't be THAT hard Oh and mrki ignore that koolaid drinking Jamaican....they're herbally equipped to not care even if a F-16 bomber was crashing into the San Siro

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

If Santon can break trough because he got a chance,then why cant Albertazzi do the same,are Inter talents better than Milan's....!!!

No, but as far as I know, all players don't have the same talent ... so maybe Santon talents are better than Albertazzi talents ... very simple, don't you think ?

We can't expect everyone to be the next big thing, Viudez won't be Pato, Cardacio won't be Pirlo, Darmian won't be Maldini/Nesta, etc ...

Originally Posted by drucurl

Instead of paying so much for Adebayor or Dzeko i wonder why we never looked at Nilmar. To me he's a fantastic striker and if I'm not mistaken he has a passport. He is fast, good first touch and a good dribbler and has scored whenever and wherever he's played. Doesn't look too strong though. He's 5'-11" not too short....i dunno there are soooo many good players out there it shouldn't be THAT hard Oh and mrki ignore that koolaid drinking Jamaican....they're herbally equipped to not care even if a F-16 bomber was crashing into the San Siro

Ah, you join the discussion (not really as we all agree ) I had with Brasiliero here !! Nilmar is one of the most talented strikers in Brazil and of course, in the world.

His main problem is:
- he "failed" to live in Europe when he was in Lyon, but he was young ... but on the pitch, despite what some medias said about him when he was here, he was just an amazing player. They bashed him a little in France, but he was used in the same way that Pato was used this year (as a starter and suddenly, for 3-4 games, a sub).
- he is very injury-prone, and it's the main problem. If he can improve his physical skills and his resistance to the injuries, he can become the best player on this planet because with his many qualities, he is also a very professional and hard-working player.

Anyway, with a proper rotation, he could be perfect for us (Pato and Nilmar for one position, Borriello and another striker for the other position to start, and if Nilmar shows he can play a lot of games in a row in Italy and scores a lot, Pato-Nilmar directly on the pitch ... would be magical I think) ...

PS: I think his price tag would be about 20-25M ... if not more.

Mrki, do you not get hugged enough at home?

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

If Santon can break trough because he got a chance,then why cant Albertazzi do the same,are Inter talents better than Milan's....!!!

Unfortunately they are... they have Santon who will be good if not great player, then Ballotelli - potentially great player, but problems with ego; then Francesco Bolzoni - also highly rated prospect...

and all we have worth mentioning is Paloschi, all the others seem not to have great potential...

Ok,maybe their talents are a bit better(still screw them!!!!).

Abate and Albertazzi are great talents who are also rated higher,and i think we should take advantage of their talents.

Some new transfernews of our beloved club:

Luis Fabiano has stated that it would be a dream if he could play for Milan.
Galliani announced that Milan refused a huge transferfee for Pato.
Cissokho's agent stated that he is confident that the player will join Milan because Porto will probably except the new offer they received.

All good news.....

And Chelsea are closing in on Maicon and Ibra.

I just can see Inter winning one game without these two players,i went to visit some Interforums to see what their reactions were on the transferrumours and they were all ****ting their paints saying that no other team in the world is so depended on one player(Ibra).

Inter without Ibra and Maicon is just a big joke,if those two leave(regardless who comes in),then Milan will be much stronger.And Juve doesnt seem active on the market,not allot of rumours and the players they want to bring in are pure crap,like Grosso...

Mrki is just angry,he isnt over the Kaka-transfer yet wich is understandible,i agree with his frustrations because i suffered of them a while ago,but now i am realising that with Leo as coach we wont have to wait until the 60'minute to bring in substitutes,we will also see much less of slowdorf and we will play attacking minded,with Pirlo finally in a free role and more chances for the youth.We will probably also have a better in shape dinho and were going to kill games faster.......

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

Luis Fabiano has stated that it would be a dream if he could play for Milan.

Is he stupid ?
He praised the fact that Kaka' went to Real (so that he left Milan) because it's good for the level of the Spanish championship and for all Brazilians (I didn't understand that but ... that must make sense for someone ?), and now playing in Milan would be a dream ? It's weird ... maybe he isn't a friend of Kaka' ?

Anyway, I didn't check, but Luis Fabiano is 30 or 31yo if I'm not wrong, and his price will also be around 20-25M I think (actually, after the very high prices for Kaka' and Ronaldo, I don't manage to imagine a cheap price for most of the good/great strikers).

And now André Santos: "Fa molto piacere sapere che Leonardo mi vuole, sarei orgoglioso e felicissimo di approdare in una grande squadra come il Milan, dove tra l'altro ci sono già i miei amici Pato e Thiago Silva. Per me giocare in Italia sarebbe una grande opportunità, la serie A resta sempre un campionato molto difficile ed affascinante. Col Milan non c'è stato alcun contatto concreto, per adesso cerco solo di provare a vincere la Confederations Cup con la Seleçao."

Translation: "I'm very pleased to know that Leonardo wants me, I would be proud and happy to play in a big team like Milan, where there are already my friends Pato and Thiago Silva. For me, playing in Italy would be a great opportunity, Serie A keeps being a very difficult and "affascinante" (I know the word in French, but not in English). With Milan, there has been no concrete contact, for moment, I just want to win the Confederations Cup with the Seleçao."

Still another player flirting with us ... who said that the departure of Kaka' would cause the fact that no player would want to join us ? We never were linked with so much quality players in a single mercato ... (surely thanks to Leonardo).

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Is he stupid ?
He praised the fact that Kaka' went to Real (so that he left Milan) because it's good for the level of the Spanish championship and for all Brazilians (I didn't understand that but ... that must make sense for someone ?), and now playing in Milan would be a dream ? It's weird ... maybe he isn't a friend of Kaka' ?

Anyway, I didn't check, but Luis Fabiano is 30 or 31yo if I'm not wrong, and his price will also be around 20-25M I think (actually, after the very high prices for Kaka' and Ronaldo, I don't manage to imagine a cheap price for most of the good/great strikers).

He's 28, turning 29 in November, and considering his current form, its at least a better option than Ronnie (currently, don't start bashing me now )

To be honest, I found his runs into the box for Brazil quite similar to Kakas. If we do end up getting him, Dzeko, and Rossi or any combination two of them, I would be extremely happy. In that case, the only thing we'd be missing would be a class CB, and maybe a decent, young midfielder (under 25 please!).

If that happens, then I can honestly say our next season will not be a lost cause I still feel it is.

Oh, and I agree with Geo, the Leonardo-effect is really telling on us. Of course, if we're comparing Sevilla with Milan, I think the choice would be quite obvious (for me at least )

Fabiano is 28. And he does have an EU passport, so acquiring him would leave a spot open for someone such as Hernanes.

People in here have some kind of drramers desease.

Yes, Maldini has refused to work with Galliani and he was offered to lead the youth sector.

No I dont get hugged, I've never been hugged by anyone, its so sad ( that is why Im mad at Galliani for selling Kaka' ), and now you have read my whole life in this sublime metaphisical manner Milanista Miami. Are you god?

Cant stand more of this pathetic poetry in here. I'll see you when mercato is over then we'll see whch team Milan has and can we win scudetto or Im right and peopel in Milan have taken the money out and Milan's power is a matter of the past.

Nice summer I wish you, Im off to the Adriatic. See you in month or so.

My apologies for my mistake about the age of Luis Fabiano ...
Anyway, I don't know what, but there is something that makes me hoping we won't buy him, but really, I'm unable to explain what as I really don't know what and why ...

I don't know why I would bash you after what you said about Ronaldinho ... firstly, Ronaldinho is unpredictable on the pitch AND off the pitch, so we don't know in what form he will come back and how he will play next year, so saying Luis Fabiano is a better option than Ronaldinho is just being realistic ...

Anyway, Luis Fabiano is a pure striker, he won't play in the former role of Kaka' for example.

Originally Posted by mrki

People in here have some kind of drramers desease.

Yes, Maldini has refused to work with Galliani and he was offered to lead the youth sector.

You have imaginary friends talking to you?
Even if Maldini did refuse to take over the youth sector, he could have done so for millions of reasons.
Anyway, stop spitting your teenage angst all over the forums, learn to form a rational argument.