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Old 03-07-2009, 06:22   #6271

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Apparently Pirlo is very close to Chelsea (milannews.it)
On the other hand, this just came across the Yahoo U.K. live transfer feed:

Chelsea seem to have missed out on Andrea Pirlo, who prefers a move to Spain with Aletico Madrid close to sealing a deal for the Milan midfielder.

I find that rather hard to believe, actually. Not that Atletico's money isn't as good as Chelsea's (assuming they're offering as much) but I figured if Pirlo was going anywhere it would be with Carlo. Could Milan be actively shopping him?
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:41   #6272

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The Huntelaar deal looks off, as Man Utd are now after him. At the moment, hate to say it, the Red Devils would be more of an attractive prospect.
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:59   #6273

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The Huntelaar deal looks off, as Man Utd are now after him. At the moment, hate to say it, the Red Devils would be more of an attractive prospect.
United are also said to be after Fabiano. I don't think either deal is off just because United is interested. And I think Dutchie mentioned something about reading that Galliani would be talking to Sevilla about Fabiano and had asked Madrid to hold up on selling Huntelaar until the Fabiano issue was settled and apparently Perez agreed.

But then you really can't depend on what you read in the papers or on the internet one way or the other.

EDIT: I actually just read the thing about Perez agreeing to hold onto Huntelaar for Milan myself. We'll see.

And thinking about it, I'm not sure why Manchester United would have a need for Huntelaar (especially if they sign Michael Owen, although Huntelaar is much better at this point). They already have Berbatov and Rooney is moving back up front. Plus they're developing Macheda. I would think they'd be looking more for wide options than in-the-box options. But we'll see.
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:09   #6274

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United are also said to be after Fabiano. I don't think either deal is off just because United is interested. And I think Dutchie mentioned something about reading that Galliani would be talking to Sevilla about Fabiano and had asked Madrid to hold up on selling Huntelaar until the Fabiano issue was settled and apparently Perez agreed.

But then you really can't depend on what you read in the papers or on the internet one way or the other.
plus, Huntelaar isn't even our fist choice. Manchester are about to sign Owen, so for them, Hunter is an emergency choice. Get Fabiano, bcs he'll work well with Dihno and Pato. It won't be like a Kaka and Ronaldihno mess, bcs they all will give each other space.

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Does anyone know who this Brazilian defender is. We have acquired him for next season it seems.....
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Marcus Paixao Diniz

Does anyone know who this Brazilian defender is. We have acquired him for next season it seems.....
Could you please post the source when you have news like this?
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Old 03-07-2009, 08:34   #6277

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Does anyone know who this Brazilian defender is. We have acquired him for next season it seems.....
Old news i guess,his name already passed by on this forum.I think he was the one from Livorno we acquired back from them.

Not much to say about him IMO,he isnt good enough for Livorno so he is for sure not good enough for us,i dont know why Milan didnt sold him.....Probably so Galliani wont have to buy CB and say: We already brought back a fine defender in Diniz.

I also truly believe that United wont buy Huntelaar before Milan have given Real the green light,Perez and Galliani are close friends,i believe the report that Milan have the first option on Huntelaar. And those United-Huntelaar links arent that serious,its not that United expressed there desire to buy him,its just rumours,they are also being linked with Zlatan today....

Wenger has said today that he believes that Adebayor could move to Milan and that Arsenal could struck a deal with us but that he hopes that Ade stays in London.

Also,like you all said,Pirlo seems to be moving to Chelski.
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England's summer of rejection

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Kaka chose Spain. Cristiano Ronaldo chose Spain. Franck Ribery, should he be granted a choice, appears likely to choose Spain. David Villa wants to remain there. So, despite the offer of becoming the best paid player in England, does Samuel Eto'o. Collectively, it amounts to a considerable snub.

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Samuel Eto'o: Set to snub England?

While a brochure has already been published to advertise Michael Owen, perhaps another needs to be commissioned to promote the Premier League to elite footballers.

After providing nine Champions League semi-finalists in the past three seasons, England's top division has a compelling case to be regarded as the best in the world. What it does not appear to be, at least in the eyes of the players who might comprise the shortlist for the Ballon D'Or, is the most glamorous.

This has been a chastening summer in the transfer market for the English clubs. Thus far, the only signing from overseas that entailed a sizeable fee is the Belgian defender Thomas Vermaelen; the defender may rectify a flaw in the Arsenal side, but he has rarely been described as a global superstar.

Those lauded in such terms, meanwhile, appear unlikely to ply their trade in England next season.

Karim Benzema talked of staying at Lyon for another year, but has plumped for a move to Real Madrid. Felipe Melo has shown no enthusiasm to trade Italy for England. David Silva may be Rafa Benitez's premier target, but wealthier buyers lurk in his homeland. Indeed, the Liverpool manager is having to ward off interest from his compatriots in Xabi Alonso and Javier Mascherano.

And therein lies part of the problem. Real Madrid have the greatest spending power. They have distorted the market, changing the nature of supply and demand economics with an endless supply of millions and a demand for all the world's recognised top talents. Manchester City may possess a similarly bulging bank balance, but they lack Real's cachet.

The dynamic has changed and England's top four appear to be suffering. Lower down the Premier League, and in more impoverished divisions across the continent, crocodile tears may be shed. For Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, the regret may be more heartfelt.

There are several factors. Spain's triumph in Euro 2008, coupled with Barcelona's similarly stylish Champions League victory, has made La Liga more fashionable. Economic considerations help. The pound has fallen in the exchange rate with the euro, meaning players from abroad effectively cost English clubs more, while tax rises will affect the players. From 2010, the top rate of taxation will increase to 50% (whereas in Spain, a tax break means high earning foreigners pay 24%, not the previous 43%).

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Arsene Wenger, for one, believes that is a deterrent to footballers and Andrey Arshavin has already been vocal in his complaints; such is the hardship of life on planet football though the majority of voters, not troubled by multimillion pound contracts, have proved rather more enthusiastic about the increased demands on the well paid.

Add in the inherent advantages the Mediterranean countries possess for many, such as climate (it is hard for Ronaldo to remain so bronzed when he has to visit drizzling, freezing Blackburn) and the gravitational pull of Real Madrid to the Spanish and Portuguese diaspora, and the Premier League threatens to become the world's richest feeder league.

After making or enhancing their reputations in England, players such as Ronaldo, David Beckham, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Arjen Robben, Lassana Diarra and Thierry Henry have all migrated south.

Few have made the opposite journey with only Liverpool consistently signing established players from Spain. Yet it is worth remembering how the Premier League has improved in recent seasons.

Whereas the influential imports in its initial seasons tended to be players in the second half of their careers - including Eric Cantona, Jurgen Klinsmann, Ruud Gullit, Gianluca Vialli and Gianfranco Zola - or those who, such as Peter Schmeichel and Dennis Bergkamp, were approaching their peak when they arrived, the modern trend has been to recruit at a younger age.

Compile a list of the most significant foreigners in the last half-dozen seasons and it would have to include Ronaldo, Henry, Cesc Fabregas and Fernando Torres. The latter was the oldest upon his arrival, at 23, and the closest to worldwide recognition. None would have ticked Florentino Perez's boxes then; barring the small matter of allegiances to Barcelona and Atletico Madrid, all do now.

The intensity of the league and the quality of the coaching, much of it by imported managers, has enabled each to realise unquestioned potential. While the regulations permitting English clubs to acquire players of the calibre of Fabregas and Federico Macheda at such formative stages in their careers can be questioned, they have proved a boon to the Premier League.

It means, too, that there is an inevitability that they, like Gerard Pique and Giuseppe Rossi before them, will be tempted to return to their own countries.

Yet the traffic in senior players can be one way. The Premier League has prospered less by trading with Spain and Italy than by signing from France, Holland and Portugal, plus South America and Eastern Europe. A dominance was established without often being in direct competition with Real Madrid.

Manchester United's prospective recruitment of Douglas Costa suggests that while Real want the Ronaldo of 2009, Sir Alex Ferguson is looking for someone closer to the 2003 model. Like Nani, Anderson and the da Silva twins before him, he is being targeted for what he might do in the future, not what he has accomplished in the past. As the man who is now United's premier Portuguese winger shows, that is not a failsafe formula, but it has paid dividends at Old Trafford.

While Ferguson still has the best part of £100m to spend and Manchester City even more, marquee signings will remain on the agenda.

But should the summer of rejection continue, it may render next season's Champions League more intriguing as the Premier League quartet, whose progress is often attributed to a financial advantage, have to prove money isn't everything.


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Milan Have Plenty Of Time To Sign A Striker - Adriano Galliani
Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has revealed the club will sign a striker, but there is no rush...
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Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani is staying cool as the transfer market begins to heat up by claiming the club has time to bring in a top-class hitman.

Galliani has been keeping his eyes firmly locked on Luis Fabiano after the chase for Wolfsburg star Edin Dzeko fizzled out. Reports claimed he was set to travel to Seville for high-powered talks with Sevilla for Fabiano. However, the chief was in Milan this afternoon wining and dining with transfer consultant Ernesto Bronzetti and he spared a moment to give an update on his transfer plans.

"We will go to pre-season without a new striker, but someone will arrive. There is still plenty of time as the transfer market is very long," Galliani told Sky Sport Italia when asked about the progress regarding his striker search.

The chief was in no mood to speak with his mouth full, but he did hint that he is still on the watch for Porto defender Aly Cissokho, despite the plug being pulled on the move.

"The transfer talks for Cissokho is still on standby," concluded the chief.

Although Galliani stayed quiet over which striker would come in, Sky Sport Italia are speculating that Fabiano is the favourite as Bronzetti has big links to Spanish football.


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Old 03-07-2009, 09:33   #6280

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Does anyone know who this Brazilian defender is. We have acquired him for next season it seems.....
He is our former primavera player a couple of seasons ago. I forget which year exactly it was.
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:43   #6281

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Manchester utd will probably want villa or ibra maybe torres or cassano they want to retain their epl tittle so i would guess that they would buy a established striker. Fabiano says doesn't want to go to England because of the weather which i find silly as we are currently having a heat wave. As for Huntelaar i would expect him to only leave for team like milan or juve or manu maybe bayern, to be honest i would expect Milan to strong contenders in a possible transfer of the player it just depends on which club he wants to join.
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:55   #6282

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We always need "friends" or "links" to buy some player. Becouse Galliani doesnt do anything clean!

If some of you can read a bit of italian go to calciomercato and read what italians say about Milan, season tickets etc. People are asking that Galliani leaves Milan in 99% of cases, they do not want to buy tickets etc.

And about "the Dinho" ( no disrespert to Brk ), we saw how he looks like right now, 5 kg too much. Players can be out of shape, but not overheight! Which top player in todays football has 5kg too much?? NOONE. When you dont work 3 years its easy to understand one month of work cant help you.

"we'll start preparations without a striker..." Why didnt he say:" we'll start preparations without NO NEW players..."

Nah, what they have done out of Milan is tragic.
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:01   #6283

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Brasiliero I have always agreed with you before in your opinions....however there's a first time for everything..... I think Fabiano is not the player we need and I don't agree that he is as good as you make him. I would honestly rather have Dzeko.

But thats just my opinion and it doesn't matter - does Fabiano have a European passport?


I am really pissed that our management is completely ignoring G. Rossi and Rosina. I mean - I dont think I need to be in football for 20 years to know that these players are perfect players for the squad if not the first 11.
No problem, my friend. It´s your opinion, you think I´m wrong and I respect.

Yep, Luis Fabiano has a Spanish passport.
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:07   #6284

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Well let's hope we can close the deal for a striker pretty soon. I know it's still early, but I can't wait to see a proper new arrival!

Hmmm, seems like we want to sell Pirlo, which is fine by me (if the money is right), but strangely the Hernanes rumours seem to have died down? Any news from Brazil, Brasileiro? Are other clubs still after him´s , or has Galliani gone there and already conducted business??
There´s nothing here in Brazil, rt9...at leats froma credible source.

The news here are the same of Europe: Pirlo to Chelsea and Hernanes to Milan. They just copy and paste the european article.

São Paulo is a very closed club...it´s hard to get a real notice from them, but if any credible journalist say something, I will post here.
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Agreed. People insist on looking at Gourcuff as the Second Coming in order to fuel their anti-management invective even further.

He may have ruled Bordeaux but couldn't cut the mustard in Milan, plain and simple.
but obviously Oddo, Emesrson, Sheva, Janku, Kaladze, Senderos and some others cut the mustard
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