Summer mercato 2009

I'd rather have fewer players who get more playing time than too many players. Borriello, Luis/Hunter rotating for the striker spot with Inzaghi ready to come off the bench in April (that's always when he starts scoring) would be best. Add on another name to that, then there is a headache as to who will start and who will be on the bench...

BTW, do we have a substitute for Pato (ie secunda punta)? Would one of the younger players suffice, ie Di Gennaro?

Originally Posted by Rick

I was just looking at his stats yesterday and they are, indeed, impressive the past two season. There are two gaps of about a month in his game log from last season, so I assumed he was injured during those periods. He started only 21 games, so 8 goals isn't that bad. But he also scored 7 goals in just 5 Copa del Rey games and 2 more in 4 UEFA Cup games. Fans are too prone to assume a player sucks if he didn't do something spectacular in his most recent season, but they don't bother to look into the reasons. But anyone who remembers him in the Champions League two years ago (7 goals in 8 games) should have an idea what a fine player he really is. And when you look at his stats this way (including Copa del Rey and UEFA Cup this past season and CL the season before), it doesn't look bad at all:

2007-08
36 GS 4 sub 31 goals


2008-09
30 GS 6 sub 17 goals

Thanks for the stats, Rick...thats what I was talking.

Luis had several minor injures(like ankle sprain) that forced him to stop for like of 15 days several times. Even with that, watching Sevilla games, his impact was very impressive. Also, the service he get at sevilla is average.

People just need to look for Luis Fabiano numbers with Brazil NT. The guy is a scoring machine...but the best thing I like about him is that he always shine in the biggest stages and games.

His numbers in champions(as you wrote here) are amazing, and we know that several great forwards disapeer in Champions.

I have no doubt that after the World Cup(if he stay health), people will respect him more...

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

I am just going to throw this out there and it is going to sound so crazy.

Why cannot we get both Fabiano and Huntelaar? Shock! Horror! We don't do that sort of thing, right.

Honestly, Pippo is injured quite a bit, so having a strikeforce of Pato, Fabiano, Huntelaar, Borriello, and Inzaghi makes sense. Huntelaar could come on loan.

Hasan, imo it´s all on Borriello. If he´s recovered, I think it will be a problem to keep all them happy. I´m against this idea...I hope we put money on a defender and midfielder.

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

Injured all season? Judging on his Confed. Cup performances, he has fully recovered, i hope....
I guess last season's performance compared to this season's shows that he still has the ability to score. And his CHampions League scoring record, where he has been given a fair chance, shows he is a prolific scorer.

Around 20 million should be enough for Sevilla to seriously consider. 14 million? It is just for Milan to show that they are serious, or atleast I hope that is not Galliani's final offer!

He is, Saliwonczyk...

As I said above, his injures weren´t serious, but he had more than a normal. I remember of several games he was sub off at the half-time because of his physical condition.

L. Fabiano (unlike Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Adriano) take care of his body. Also didn´t saw this in the net, but he played the final of Confed. Cup sick(fever).

I think if Luis really became a Milan player, we will be all happy with his performances...He´s molded for a big club.

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

So Sir Alex gets Owen on a free...after selling one of the world´s biggest stars, for a world record fee....

Wonder how much Milan fans are laughing at that transfer?

Wonder how many Milan fans would have been frothing at the mouth had we done a similar transaction, and not gotten the Hunter?

Wonder if the Man U fans are in an uproar?

Hmmmmm.....maybe if Galliani had signed him there would be protests in the streets, and people throwing themselves to the floor?

Ahh..silly season..gotta love it! Some people will get drunk and pub it! Some will take a prickly cactus and hug it! Some will go the Calgon route and tub it! Yet still others will get unruly and thug it!

Me, Im going back to sleep. Wake me when we sign someo..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

All respect, but do you seriously think Sir Alex beleives Owen will replace both Tevez and ROnaldo! NO. He will be going after someone else, and there is a HUGE chance that it is going to be Hunterlaar. Milan better get a deal done quick, because Perez owes favours to both clubs.

Originally Posted by rt9

I'd rather have fewer players who get more playing time than too many players. Borriello, Luis/Hunter rotating for the striker spot with Inzaghi ready to come off the bench in April (that's always when he starts scoring) would be best. Add on another name to that, then there is a headache as to who will start and who will be on the bench...

BTW, do we have a substitute for Pato (ie secunda punta)? Would one of the younger players suffice, ie Di Gennaro?

Yes. Remember Manchster United last season. They had so much attacking quality coming off the bench, and not only on the field. It really caused opposition teams headaches, bcs as soon as you thought you had Rooney under control, Tevez/Berba comes on etc.

Milan may need something similar, so getting Hunter and Fabiano may be a good option. Depends on how they feel being rotated around. Tevez certainly didn't like it....

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

So Sir Alex gets Owen on a free...after selling one of the world´s biggest stars, for a world record fee....

Wonder how much Milan fans are laughing at that transfer?

Wonder how many Milan fans would have been frothing at the mouth had we done a similar transaction, and not gotten the Hunter?

Wonder if the Man U fans are in an uproar?

Hmmmmm.....maybe if Galliani had signed him there would be protests in the streets, and people throwing themselves to the floor?

Ahh..silly season..gotta love it! Some people will get drunk and pub it! Some will take a prickly cactus and hug it! Some will go the Calgon route and tub it! Yet still others will get unruly and thug it!

Me, Im going back to sleep. Wake me when we sign someo..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

For starter, ManU signed Valencia.
Secondly, Owen was not bad when he was playing for NewCastle when not injured.
Lastly, ManU is really a team who does not sign stars player, actually they really develop their superstars. Although they often pay huge fees/over pay great potenial players.

THe funny thing is that when Kaka was here, he kept saying Luis is a great striker and his partnership with Luis are out of this world......
Now that when Kaka is gone, Milan is going after him. Just too late in my opinion.

As for Borreillo, I don't think it is fair to judge him as he never really played for Milan yet.

It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of days. I think we are close to getting our first signing. After that's done (the CF), hopefuly we will be able to move on to better things like the defense, like Brasileiro said. It is the part of the team that needs a lot of attention yet, we are all cought up talking about strikers.

Nesta to me, is one of the best CBs of the past 20 years (top 5 definitely, but IMO the best). So even with 80% fitness his inteligence on the field is immense and he is better then most out there. However that's a big chance and we don't know if he will get to that 80%. He hasn't played for a whole year and that is way too much time off even for someone as great as Nesta. So IMO we MUST get a CB, and that's mainly because I've totally lost all confidence in Kaladze even as a back up. Apart from that we also need a ful-back. Jankulovski has been a liability on the left for a while now and that's a good place to start.

Originally Posted by nefremo

It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of days. I think we are close to getting our first signing. After that's done (the CF), hopefuly we will be able to move on to better things like the defense, like Brasileiro said. It is the part of the team that needs a lot of attention yet, we are all cought up talking about strikers.

Nesta to me, is one of the best CBs of the past 20 years (top 5 definitely, but IMO the best). So even with 80% fitness his inteligence on the field is immense and he is better then most out there. However that's a big chance and we don't know if he will get to that 80%. He hasn't played for a whole year and that is way too much time off even for someone as great as Nesta. So IMO we MUST get a CB, and that's mainly because I've totally lost all confidence in Kaladze even as a back up. Apart from that we also need a ful-back. Jankulovski has been a liability on the left for a while now and that's a good place to start.

yes, i have said this before. We should have gone to seal up the defense before going for a striker. The defense, especially the full-backs, has been the major liability for Milan over the last two seasons. Still, little has been done to properly shore it up.

Well, we almost got a new left back didn't we?

I just hope we offload Oddo and get a quality left or right back (as Zambrotta can play on either side).

About this Fabiano debate, personally, I don't think we should get him. He's a great striker and though has had inconsistency at times in his career he's played a big part at all of his clubs. I don't think we should get him simply because he's 28 soon to be 29. Dinho's around the same age and we'd have to look to replace them both in a couple of years. Add Rino, Zambrotta, Nesta and Pirlo (who's looking more likely to stay) to the mix and I think it's asking too much.

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

So Sir Alex gets Owen on a free...after selling one of the world´s biggest stars, for a world record fee....

Wonder how much Milan fans are laughing at that transfer?

Wonder how many Milan fans would have been frothing at the mouth had we done a similar transaction, and not gotten the Hunter?

Wonder if the Man U fans are in an uproar?

Hmmmmm.....maybe if Galliani had signed him there would be protests in the streets, and people throwing themselves to the floor?

Ahh..silly season..gotta love it! Some people will get drunk and pub it! Some will take a prickly cactus and hug it! Some will go the Calgon route and tub it! Yet still others will get unruly and thug it!

Me, Im going back to sleep. Wake me when we sign someo..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Thing is, Ronaldo's replacement is more likely to be Valencia. Owen is a squad player at this point and not really much more.

Originally Posted by nefremo

It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of days. I think we are close to getting our first signing. After that's done (the CF), hopefuly we will be able to move on to better things like the defense, like Brasileiro said. It is the part of the team that needs a lot of attention yet, we are all cought up talking about strikers.

Nesta to me, is one of the best CBs of the past 20 years (top 5 definitely, but IMO the best). So even with 80% fitness his inteligence on the field is immense and he is better then most out there. However that's a big chance and we don't know if he will get to that 80%. He hasn't played for a whole year and that is way too much time off even for someone as great as Nesta. So IMO we MUST get a CB, and that's mainly because I've totally lost all confidence in Kaladze even as a back up. Apart from that we also need a ful-back. Jankulovski has been a liability on the left for a while now and that's a good place to start.

You're top 5 comment got me thinking. If I was to think of the top 5 defenders in the last 20 years (obviously imo), it would be Maldini, Baresi, Nesta, Cannavaro and Thuram. What made me think most was 4 are Italian, 3 played for Milan and 1 though not Italian played his career in Italy. It really says a lot of the quality defenders Italy produced in the past. There's a long way to go for future generations to maintain that quality (right now only Santacroce really strikes me of reaching those sorts of heights).

See Dzeko thread. Chealsea is now after him, and ready to offer more than Milan. Now we should seriously be considering Hunter.

It was only a mettrer of time. Galliani is all talk and no action. He is impotent and needs viagra.

If Chelsea are prepared to pay more money than the player is worth than he will go to Chelsea. I would love Dzeko to come to milan if it was for the right price 30million euro plus seems a bit excessive. Chelsea had just brought sturridge, Chelsea already have Drogba Kalou Anelka and Di santo it seems a bit ridicous that they would buy another striker.