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Old 07-07-2009, 10:49   #6781

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And if you guys think Gooch to Milan came out of nowhere, how about the American center back that Everton just signed?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/can...rbh1MwC1cKpuAA

It's like that movie Goal! about the unknown kid who gets a shot with Newcastle (who might find themselves with a lot of unknown kids now ).
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:52   #6782

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Its because you dont get dissapointed by anything at all..

for me that means that we re not getting anyone else for cb..since we now have 2 new players for the defence..
how lucky are we??
No, there are things that disappoint me. Kaka leaving. The Cissokho saga. Throwing away the chance to keep up with Inter by not beating Juve.

I'm not defeatist and I don't care for self pity. It gets us nowhere and feeds on itself and ultimately self fulfills into reality. We have to be positive.

Here's some good news: It seems in Dzeko's new contract there's a 20mil euro release clause specifically for Milan. If he keeps up his form, he's a Milan player next year for 20 million. Good deal. This means that we probably won't buy a gangbusters forward this year and will live with Pato, Pippo Borriello and maybe one more backup.

It also seems likely that we've secured Marchetti for next season as well. Leo is taking a long view. That makes me happy.


Edit: Nesta, Thiago Silva, Kaladze, Bonera, Gooch and even Favalli and Albertazzi. What more do you want? We can't buy Mexes or Zapata, and bench them, or bench Nesta. Thiago Silva is a starter. Nesta is a starter. If Nesta breaks down, we can buy someone in January.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:00   #6783

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No, there are things that disappoint me. Kaka leaving. The Cissokho saga. Throwing away the chance to keep up with Inter by not beating Juve.

I'm not defeatist and I don't care for self pity. It gets us nowhere and feeds on itself and ultimately creates a self fulfills into reality. We have to be positive.

Here's some good news: It seems in Dzeko's new contract there's a 20mil euro release clause specifically for Milan. If he keeps up his form, he's a Milan player next year for 20 million. Good deal. This means that we probably won't buy a gangbusters forward this year and will live with Pato, Pippo Borriello and maybe one more backup.

It also seems likely that we've secured Marchetti for next season as well. Leo is taking a long view. That makes me happy.


Edit: Nesta, Thiago Silva, Kaladze, Bonera, Gooch and even Favalli and Albertazzi. What more do you want? We can't buy Mexes or Zapata, and bench them, or bench Nesta. Thiago Silva is a starter. Nesta is a starter. If Nesta breaks down, we can buy someone in January.
Great post! I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't need instant gratification.

I saw that about Dzeko and was thinking that's great. It might be the reason Milan was hoping to take Huntelaar on loan rather than buy him outright. If Milan gets either Huntelaaar or Fabiano this year and Dzeko next year, I'd be thrilled. But I don't think it would be terrible to wait until next summer for Dzeko. We still really don't know what Borriello can do since he hardly had a chance to play last year (although I read somewhere that Napoli was hoping to take him home on loan). And there may be other short-term (loan) options if Leonardo isn't comfortable with the strikers currently on the squad. Who knows? Maybe one of the young guys will be a big surprise.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:11   #6784

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Edit: Nesta, Thiago Silva, Kaladze, Bonera, Gooch and even Favalli and Albertazzi. What more do you want? We can't buy Mexes or Zapata, and bench them, or bench Nesta. Thiago Silva is a starter. Nesta is a starter. If Nesta breaks down, we can buy someone in January.
Of all them,only nesta(if he is healthy) can be called a awc defender,all the others are not even good enough for milan,even thiago silva is not good enough for me..

i was used to having a defence line like cafu-nesta-stam-maldini for exapmle,not these kids..

we cannot compete ch l's big teams with this defence,last year we were parody defencively,and we had paolo not playing bad..if nesta gets injured again we ll be even worse this year..

if we bought mexes/zapata/santa there would be no chance for thiago starting our matches,if nesta was okay of course..for me this capture means NTH at all,i dont consider us reinforced just because we got gooch,for the love of god!!

and you cant be serious saying if nesta breaks down we get another one in january..i wont even bother comment this
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:17   #6785

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if we bought mexes/zapata/santa there would be no chance for thiago starting our matches,if nesta was okay of course..for me this capture means NTH at all,i dont consider us reinforced just because we got gooch,for the love of god!!
I agree. The Gooch signing is a backup signing. If we were to sign a Zapata or Mexes, this is a signing to start along with Nesta which bumps Thiago Silva to the bench.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:23   #6786

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I just posted this in the Onyewu thread, but since there is a big discussion about him here as well I'll paste it here too.

"I don't know what to say. I guess no Santacroce now!

As for Onyewu, I've only seen him play for the USA and never for Standard. Judging from what I've seen (I've seen plenty of US games with him), my opinion is that he won't be anything but a back up player. He is strong and tall and brilliant with the head. He will certainly help on crosses coming in our box and long balls. Very rarely does he lose a ball in the air that he goes for. However, his positioning isn't anywhere near what it should be and that is the part of his game that HAS to get better if he is to play for this club.

Like I said I've only seen him play for his country and that can many times be very different to performances in club week in week out. I don't think he is better then Bonera overall. He is better in the air and his size definitely gives him an advantage over many players, but when it comes to positioning and other aspects of defending he is not better then Bonera IMO. Maybe he can prove me wrong but at this point I see no chance whatsoever that this guy will come in and start. At best, he can be the Senderos of this year. I am not too positive about this.

Because he is our player now, I am going to say Good luck Onyewu and I hope that you prove me wrong. At 0$ he is a bargain. But I can't deny the fact that my biggest wish for this summer (Santacroce) is now dead. It's been a long time since a CB has impressed me as much as Fabiano has this past year. But o well.....I guess there is always next year.....unless Juventus goes and signs him now and then I'll be fuming!"
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:31   #6787

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Get used to it guys, this is the future for Milan. The only reason we were able to bounce back from our last dark age under Berlusconi was that Seria A was still the best league in the world. Now Seria A is the 4th best and all the success we haev enjoyed ahs been great. But that is it. good luck to Juve and Inter (Maybe not Inter).
4th ??
Which league is 3rd according to you ??
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:37   #6788

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I honestly cannot fathom how anyone could be disappointed by this. I think its a great move. I keep reading how people think it's a stupid move, and we gain nothing. It's insane. We get a big, athletic center back who may or may not be good enough as a starter. If he is, great! If not, then he's a backup. Why are you angry?
We're mad because whether he's good or not: 1)he's not what we need atm which is any one of a lb, st, or a probable MALDINI (cb) replacement 2)quality wise, we have enough "cover" in the players we already have 3)seems to be ANOTHER marketing ploy again just like ronaldinho and beckham....don't tell me a scout's report about him just got faxed in at age 27 Him being here is one thing if he's not good enough. But if he isn't milan material but somehow keeps making the starting xi then we'll be sure it's for espn and fox to do more player profiles if all goes according to plan, berlu could end up looking the hero who was the "first owner of a big club to take a chance on this fantastic American talent". Next we'll hear about the 'American Maldini' etc 4)Whatever the yanks think it makes us more of a joke in europe. Not because of his nationality but because in the middle of an epic failed mercato we proudly display a Newcastle utd reject. Imagine the effect on players who were thinking about coming here! 5)again we get a slow player it's not only the bigger slower attackers we face what about balo and zarate and miccoli etc?
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NO worries, we have T. Silva.

To be honest, someone posted about our current CBs.

Nesta and T. Silva are sure starters.
Favalli is Favalli, can't really expect too much from him but he will be solid here and there.
Kala and Bonera are huge questions mark.
Same goes with Alberterzzi and Darmian.

Gooch does not solve any problem and by means is he the AMerican Maldini. But he does give Milan a strong CB that its lacks since Stam.

Don't worry too much as he is JUST A SQUAD PLAYER. Think of it this way, he came in to take over Senderous spot.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:56   #6790

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Those tickets were probably Corp. tickets as they have business tides with Berlu's company. I am pretty sure of it, as I really don't see fans buying season tickets for the coming season, as TWO ICONS were lost from Milan.
Galliani is full of sh*t. His numbers make no sense. He said they sold 6000 tickets, while the man in charge of ticket sales said they sold 10000. These idiots can't even keep up with the same lie in their own organization. Galliani also said that they sold 8000 tickets this time last year, while reports were that they actually sold 12000. So Galliani is either lying about now or last year or maybe both.
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:02   #6791

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Y.TF dont we get rid of the Favalli's, seedorfs and all the other overpaid washed up slow
pokes? i used to think that it is Carlo y they were still at Milan... but now i think otherwise... since no club wants them individually, cant we group them up and hav a yard sale...we will even take nothing... i cnt believ another season with seedorf and fav... i am going to tear out my hair... they are like 'the monkey on milans back" no one wants them!!!!
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Regardless of Thiago Silva and Onyewu, is Galliani going to buy a top CB? Doesn't think so.

Is the Cissoko deal over? The press is pretty sure it is but some at MM are saying it might go through.

Manure are really impressive this mercato. The CRonaldo transfer (like Kaka's) was inevitable and they're going out and buying good young players to replace him and the outgoing crop of oldies. Frustrating at this club.

In other news, medical confirms Onyewu not a "bro".
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Old 07-07-2009, 13:00   #6793

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4th ??
Which league is 3rd according to you ??
I think he was referring to the German League, because with the new rules in place, we could potentially lose a CL place to them in a year or two if Italian teams fail to perform in the CL these coming two seasons.


As for Serie A not having short speedy players, I respectfully disagree. Miccoli, Zapata are not all that tall, and with a lot of speed. I think the bigger test would be to match him against Giovinco. That would surely prove how much he's worth. That said, I am so not looking forward to Milan v Juve this season...

Rick, was this your idea of patience brings in the surprise signing? Because I sure as hell am surprised, but not in a good way.

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Old 07-07-2009, 13:26   #6794

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Morabito: If Milan want Huntelaar they have to pay Valdano's price. They could wait till August for a reduced price, but by then he may be gone.

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Old 07-07-2009, 13:28   #6795

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Here are some pics from the protests. Great banners

http://sport.sky.it/sport/calcio_ita...popup.html?p=2

Ive got to get one of those made in Milan tshirts.. wicked!!!
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