Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

Those who deny that that MGT. have failed this mercato are cheating themselves of the truth.... Still, there is 50 days left to wrap up Fabiano, sell Storari and Kalac and purchase a young keeper (hopefully able to challenge Abbiatti and Marchetti if he comes next season), and IF Berlu is willing to invest a small portion of his own fortune, perhaps buy a decent CB to seal up our defense.....
Not enough, but the absoloute bare minimum to be competing for a top three spot this season....

Sali, you seem to be driving on both directions of mrki's proverbial highway here. Going south, you say the management has failed this mercato. But heading north, you say (correctly) that there's 50 days left to wrap up Fabiano, etc. How can this mercato be deemed a failure when there are 50 days left and we have no real idea what will happen during that time? I realize there are some here who will deem the mercato a failure no matter what because Kaka was sold (unless, I suppose, Milan bought Messi), but if, say, Milan buys Fabiano, Hernanes and comes to an agreement with Porto on Cissokho in addition to Gooch and the young players that have been bought, will the mercato have been a failure? I don't think so. There are also rumblings that Carlos Eduardo could be on his way after he gets his Italian passport and Milan seems to be looking at some other young Brazilians who might be brought in in January or bought to Italy through another club as Inter did with Kerlon and Chievo.

From milannews.it:

Braida in Brasile: mission possible?
12.07.2009 09:56 di Stefano Maraviglia


La settimana che verrà, potrebbe essere in stile "notte di san Silvestro" per i tifosi rossoneri. Braida si è recato in Brasile, dove ha svolto un lavoro meticoloso e molto accurato. Recuperati e riallacciati i rapporti col San Paolo (club dove milita Hernanes), il dirigente rossonero si è mosso alla ricerca di talenti quali Taison e Valter dell’International e del terzino Andrè Santos del Corinthians. L'operato di Braida sta a testimoniare il fermento del mercato rossonero, in stand-by solo per "eccesso di rialzo" dei prezzi degli obbiettivi di via Turati. Se la "mission possible" in Brasile vede il Milan iper-attivo, le dichiarazioni di Galliani, tendono a "mimetizzare" le mosse rossonere. Molto ruota attorno al futuro di Andrea Pirlo, che in caso di offerta sostanziosa da parte del Chelsea, potrebbe essere "sacrificato" dando poi il via libera alla trattativa Hernanes. Il prezzo del brasiliano è alto, ma una buona mediazione e un tesoretto ben "protetto" da Galliani, potrebbero far cambiare idea al presidente del San Paolo, al quale non andarono proprio giù le "banane" offerte dai rossoneri qualche settiana fa.

English translation:

Braida in Brazil: mission possible?
12.07.2009 09:56 by Stefano Maraviglia

The week to come, could be in style "night of Saint Sylvester" for fans rossoneri. Braida has traveled to Brazil, where he played a very careful and meticulous. Recovered and resumed relations with Sao Paulo (club where military Hernanes), the manager rossonero has moved in search of talents like Taison and Walter from Internacional and the quarterback André Santos Corinthians. The work of Braida is a witness to the turmoil in the market rossonero in stand-by for "over-rise" in prices of goals in via Turati. If the "mission possible" Brazil sees the Milan hyper-active, Galliani declarations, tend to "camouflage" Building Rossonere. Much revolves around the future of Andrea Pirlo, who in the event of substantial offer from Chelsea, could be "sacrificed" then giving the green light to negotiations Hernanes. The price of Brazil is high, but a good mediation and tesoretto well "protected" by Galliani, could change their minds to the President of San Paolo, which is just went down the "banana" offered by some rossoneri settiana ago.

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=9023

As for Taison and Walter, a Milan fan on another forum who lives in the hometown of Internacional gave some info about these players. To summarize, Taison is a 21-year-old forward who "incredible speed, great dribbling and offensive movement and has improved well his finishing from last year." He scored more than 20 goals in six months and "formed a very dangerous attack (almost 90 goals until mid-season) with Nilmar and D'Alessandro." But there are some negatives, such as that he hasn't handled physical play well thus far and he needs space to run (so he might be someone to play on the wing in a 4-3-3 to run the flanks).

Walter is a 19-year-old striker, very powerful and reminiscent of Adriano. According to the Brazilian poster, "he is physically very strong, like to battle against defenders, has great shot (scores a lot from outside the box), and good aerial skills." But apparently he's very raw, sometimes battles weight issues and has yet to make a mark at Internacional. So he seems to me like a player more for the primavera.

Yes typically we have time till 31 august,BUT we have a new coach and even if we didnt,we should have finished our mercato by now or at least brought our firts players..its important for anyone new to be a member of the pre-season preparation,and almost everyone wants to ignore it..

juve,real,inter etc have almost completed their transfer campain,whereas we havent even started..but i know,galliani knows best and all the others are ignorant and amateurs..please dont tell me we are on the right road,actually we are nowhere,we stand still(we are trying to fool everyone with our offers,no offer is good enough),and we are wasting so much time..

Originally Posted by M.O.I.

Yes typically we have time till 31 august,BUT we have a new coach and even if we didnt,we should have finished our mercato by now or at least brought our firts players..its important for anyone new to be a member of the pre-season preparation,and almost everyone wants to ignore it..

juve,real,inter etc have almost completed their transfer campain,whereas we havent even started..but i know,galliani knows best and all the others are ignorant and amateurs..please dont tell me we are on the right road,actually we are nowhere,we stand still(we are trying to fool everyone with our offers,no offer is good enough),and we are wasting so much time..

First of all, I'm more interested in bringing in the right players than bringing in the quick and easy players. Some of you act like the first few games of the season are more important than the next two or three years. Don't you see that getting the right players for the future is more important than having every player ready by the start of the season? Do you not think the current Milan squad is not capable of being competitive for a few games?

Second, where have you been? Have you been hiding under a rock? Milan has already added several players to the senior squad this summer, including Thiago Silva, Onyewu, Abate and Di Gennaro. So how can you claim Milan hasn't brought in their first player or even started the mercato?

These panic arguments make absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

I disagree about the fact that we have to be complete by now,for me the deadline is when we go on the US tour because then we will have the most games so the new team will have to gel in that period

Originally Posted by Rick

Second, where have you been? Have you been hiding under a rock? Milan has already added several players to the senior squad this summer, including Thiago Silva, Onyewu, Abate and De Gennaro. So how can you claim Milan hasn't brought in their first player or even started the mercato?

man you should consider supporting palermo..

we havent been reinforced at any case,our squad is far worse than last year's parody..we lost maldini kaka(gorky too,as we could have him too),and i hear fans talking that we are on the right way because we got 2-3 second class kids..abate and de genarro????????????their teams were relagated and they were nt even good actually last year,the only player that we loaned out and was good enough was GOURCOUF..

right way???for which reason?if we had cissoko and fabiano,id say we re on the right way maybe(we would still need much more)..but now???

real is on the right way
juventus is on the right way
inter is on the right way

us being on the right way makes no sence at all..
we may be after one month but not now..

Pre season is very important Milan last season left it until late july to start transferring players the net result was Milan lost the first 2 games. I think it is more of the case that the transfer market is very distorted because of Real Madrid spending spree and the potiential for Manchester city to spend 200 million on one player. Every club is selling for disproportionate prices like arsenal wanting 28 million euros for Adebayor and Real wanting 24 million euros for Huntelaar and of course Fiorentina wanting 20+ player for melo. Galliani seems to be wanting to spend every euro of the transfer fund diligently.

Milan really should of completed the transfer of cissokho rather than positioning for a better deal. milan really should of had agreement in place for players before we sold kaka. Arsenal have similar financial constraints to Milan as they seem to be bidding an buying players Milan have been incredibly slow to take advantage of the opportunities in the market

Originally Posted by mrki

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/juven...idnotizia=6737

Braida is in Brasil for Hernanes, then we'll sell Pirlo to finance Hernanes deal.

Mrki, I don't understand Italian so is this in tuttomercato or just your another negative fantasy?

Originally Posted by M.O.I.

real is on the right way
juventus is on the right way
inter is on the right way

Go and support them, then.

Il Milan prepara il colpo Hernanes per il dopo-Pirlo
http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/cal...+il+dopo-Pirlo
.....

Originally Posted by ZvonimirBoban

Go and support them, then.

Really strong arguments,as always..

Originally Posted by M.O.I.

man you should consider supporting palermo..

we havent been reinforced at any case,our squad is far worse than last year's parody..we lost maldini kaka(gorky too,as we could have him too),and i hear fans talking that we are on the right way because we got 2-3 second class kids..abate and de genarro????????????their teams were relagated and they were nt even good actually last year,the only player that we loaned out and was good enough was GOURCOUF..

right way???for which reason?if we had cissoko and fabiano,id say we re on the right way maybe(we would still need much more)..but now???

Okay, let me try to help you comprehend what I said. I did not say that Gooch, Abate and Di Gennaro were all the players Milan needs or that any of them were going to be world class stars in the future. I did not say that Milan was on the "right way" because of those players. Where do you get these things? What I said was that you were incorrect when you said that Milan hadn't brought in their first player or even begun the transfer market this summer. Those players -- as well as Thiago Silva -- can be important players to the squad. Not every player Milan buys needs to be a world class player. One of the problems last year was a lack of depth with injuries to so many key players. These players help to address that problem.

Also, it's silly to keep harping on Gourcuff. If Gourcuff was a transfer market mistake, then he was a transfer market mistake LAST YEAR because that's when the agreement for the option to buy was signed. At that time, nobody was ready to jump off a bridge because Milan had loaned out Gourcuff with a 15 million euro option to buy. He hadn't done crap in two seasons with Milan.

Listen, I don't know how many times I have to say this before it gets through some of the thick skulls around here, but there is still 50 days left in the transfer market. There is still time to buy Fabiano, Hernanes, Cissokho and a dozen other players if that's what Milan decided they wanted to do. None of us -- not a single solitary one of us -- knows what's going on behind the scenes. All we have to go on is rumors, crap from the media and whatever the Milan honchos decide they want to say publicly (and if you've been a Milan fan for long, you should know by now that what they say usually doesn't mean much one way or the other).

There is no need to panic. Yes, it would be nice to have the squad all wrapped up in a little package with a bow in time for training and for the friendlies, but if Milan doesn't have everyone in place they won't be alone by any stretch of the imagination. The vast majority of transfers have yet to take place. If Milan buys a player or two in August, the squad already in place can manage until the late additions are up to speed. How would adding a player in August be any different than adding Beckham in January? Yet he got off to a fabulous start, even playing in a completely new system.

Seriously, if you're so desperate for quick big-money signings, then maybe you should consider supporting Real Madrid.

Originally Posted by M.O.I.

real is on the right way
juventus is on the right way
inter is on the right way

us being on the right way makes no sence at all..
we may be after one month but not now..

Then why not wait a month and see? What good does it do to b1tch and complain about it now?

obviously you are not aware of what the pre-season means for a club..

u may say whatever you want for me those signings do not reinforce us by any means,we had a lot more serious problems than our depth last year dude..and who said we have more depth with gooch and TS(paolo and senderos left you know..),till now we re weaker than last year!!even our depth..

who said that beckham was a good move?i wrote hundreds o posts saying that it was an "unfair" sign for all the other players,because of the treatment he had(he started against roma in olipmico,with 3 days training!!)..that doesnt mean that anyone can start playing with 3 days of training..your exapmle is just making my arguments stronger that we re run by scums..

saying that loosing gourcuf,was last year's mistake is just another illusion you have,gourcuf was THIS year league one's MVP,and if we wanted we could have convinced him to stay,we re milan not palermo my friend,dont be confused..

I have a question,i live in Holland and i only have RAI UNO from italy on TV,does anyone knows whether they broadcast games from Milan this season in CL or Serie A or do they only show highlights?