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Old 14-07-2009, 14:11   #7756

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Do you not listen they wouldnt pay over 15 for Fabiano , 20 for Dzeko backtracked on a deal for Cissokho , What in the name of god makes you think a deal for Rossi for 28 - 34 million will happen.

Either your being sarcastic or you the optomistic person on the planet but no Dice on any player over 15 million is clear and for those who think Hernanes or D'Agostino will arrive if Pirlo leaves I hope your right but I would not be surprised if Pirlo left and no1 came in.
chill dude!!

There is also a difference in age in case you didnt noticed, fabiano is 28/29yo and silvio said milan would concentrate on youth!! and he doesnt want to spend too much on older players.

I think we'll go for a younger striker than Fabiano, wich is good IMO!
Dzeko or Rossi would be much better options as we are settled for many years with them. Even if they are more expensive now it will be the cheaper option in a few years as we'll have to sign a replacement for fabiano then.
And I dont think it's so impossible we'll sign a player for about 25m (be it dzeko or rossi or someone else).

I dont say we'll get Rossi, he's just one of my favourites. But a player like him (and dzeko) is possible to get IMO. we just sold Kaka you know...

so chill down!!
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Old 14-07-2009, 14:12   #7757

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Im also wondering IS Milan able to buy Hernanes at all? The price is what, 25-30mln... I dont know.
maybe, but only if we sell pirlo!
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Old 14-07-2009, 14:17   #7758

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chill dude!!

There is also a difference in age in case you didnt noticed, fabiano is 28/29yo and silvio said milan would concentrate on youth!! and he doesnt want to spend too much on older players.

I think we'll go for a younger striker than Fabiano, wich is good IMO!
Dzeko or Rossi would be much better options as we are settled for many years with them. Even if they are more expensive now it will be the cheaper option in a few years as we'll have to sign a replacement for fabiano then.
And I dont think it's so impossible we'll sign a player for about 25m (be it dzeko or rossi or someone else).

I dont say we'll get Rossi, he's just one of my favourites. But a player like him (and dzeko) is possible to get IMO. we just sold Kaka you know...



so chill down!!

my fury over another failure got the better sorry i hope your right i just don't see anyone costing more than 10 - 15 million coming in im chilled now my friend peace.
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Old 14-07-2009, 16:01   #7759

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Milan will step into the real market after 2 or 3 friendlies.
The management are still hoping good of our senators and there is no way can convience them otherwise. Quite frankly I don't see milan spending big or approaching big names it will depend on our performance as a whole they already drew a 3rd place objective and championsleague is not an objective maybe final 8 if we get lucky . So what I trully think is we already saw Milan 'ganist varese just add to them pato pirlo zambrotta with abbiati.
We are all hoping we get something out of this summer mercato but in the end deep inside we all know that this kind of management is not willing to invest in order to flourish again.
Maybe we see Toni comes in , drogba/pirlo swap, a backup defender coming in, an ex champ league or world cup winner but not a true transfer target
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Old 14-07-2009, 16:18   #7760

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The Fabiano delay/failure doesn't disappoint me much. I actually agree with Berlu's assessment of not spending so much on older players, especially as we'd need to get a replacement within around 2 years. I think Fabiano is a good player, but he's not really worth the money reported (i.e. over 20m).

One other thing which I felt really pleased about. Borriello has said that Leonardo's a really strict coach and there's more discipline in training. For me, based on the attitude of the players in the past few years, it's really important that we have this extra discipline, and I'm glad to hear Leo doesn't appear to be taking any rubbish.

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Actually I think he's correct in his assessment. Antonini, for all his workrate and runs forward, isn't particularly solid at the back and it showed in his performances last season. I'm not sure he's worse than Janku as Siregar said, but certainly I don't think he's a capable starter for us.
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Old 14-07-2009, 16:22   #7761

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Its seems very absurd that Milan would need to sell pirlo in order to get hernanes after Milan has just sold 85 million euros worth of players, unless Berlusconi is selling the club there is nothing that can be gained by servicing the debt. I hoped that after Milan sold kaka that we would gain some independence from Berlusconi it seems very frustrating the silvio is allowed to maintain a level of control without contributing any resources. Anyway if Milan don't buy Fabiano for the bargain price he is at now i can't see Milan making huge inroads into the transfer market. it is hard to come to any conclusion right now. Milan tend to buy the majority of players in late july and early august if Milan haven't brought any new players in that period than it pretty safe to assume that Milan will be inactive for the rest of the summer transfer window unless a player is available on a free transfer. It seems that Berlusconi is convinced that Milan problems are caused by poor tactics rather than poor transfer policy until Milan start getting battered 4-0 by the bigger teams i can't see Silvio changing his conclusions.

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Old 14-07-2009, 18:19   #7762

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So, according to Sky Sport 24, Milan and Rio will meet again over Fabiano in the next few days. Silvio has agreed to go to 17 million euros plus bonuses based on Milan's league position. Or something like that.

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14/lug/2009 23.52.51

Nuove informazioni sulla trattativa Luis Fabiano-Milan.

Secondo quanto riportato da Sky Sport 24, le parti in causa (Milan e la Rio, societŕ detentrice del cartellino del brasiliano) hanno parlato nel pomeriggio della strategia per arrivare al giocatore brasiliano e convincere definitivamente il Siviglia.

Il Milan inizialmente era fermo a sborsare una cifra vicina ai 15 milioni di euro, mentre la richiesta della Rio era di 20 milioni di euro.

Successivamente, sempre secondo Sky Sport 24, sarebbe intervenuto il presidente Berlusconi, che avrebbe fatto alzare l'offerta a 17 milioni piů due di bonus (legati al piazzamento in campionato del Milan), molto vicina a quella richiesta.

A questo punto le parti hanno deciso di darsi nuovamente appuntamento nei prossimi giorni.

Nel frattempo, la Rio potrebbe andare a parlare con il Siviglia per prelevare il restante 35% del cartellino di Luis Fabiano, anche se, in ogni caso, per concludere la trattativa occorrerŕ il benestare della societŕ spagnola.

All'incontro hanno partecipato anche i rappresentanti della Stellar, societŕ che in Europa detiene i cartellini di circa 500 calciatori, tra i quali ci sarebbe uno dei prossimi obiettivi di mercato del Milan, il terzino del Tottenham Bale.
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The Milan and Luis Fabiano have VICINI VICINI!

The reports Sky Sports 24th 14/lug/2009 23:52:51

New information on the treaty-Milan Luis Fabiano.

As reported by Sky Sport 24, the sides (Milan and Rio, a company holding the card of Brazil) have talked in the afternoon of the strategy to reach the Brazilian player and finally convince the Seville.

AC Milan was initially stopped to pay a figure close to 15 million euros, while the request of the Rio was 20 million. Subsequently, according to Sky Sport 24, the president would have intervened Berlusconi that it would raise the offer to 17 million plus two bonus (linked to placement in the league Milan), very close to that request.

At this point the parties have agreed to be meeting again in the coming days. Meanwhile, the Rio could go and speak to Seville to take the remaining 35% of the card by Luis Fabiano, although In any case, to conclude the treaty will require the approval of Spanish society.

The meeting was also attended by representatives of Stellar, a company in Europe that holds the cards of about 500 players, among whom there would be one of the next targets for market of Milan, the quarterback of Bale Tottenham.
http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calcio...-vicini-vicini
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Old 14-07-2009, 18:28   #7763

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LOL, I never hate Antonini. I like him, I like his character. He is optimistic player who set his goal realistically.

I might be too harsh but I don't think there is big improvement from Janku if we talk about defensive ability between them. But for offensive ability I choose Antonini. Even Janku is a more offensive player, Antonini offers more things than Jankulovski when they move forward.
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Old 14-07-2009, 19:26   #7764

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Old 14-07-2009, 20:20   #7765

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Yes, it sometimes happens to me with the edit thing as well.

And I agree completely about Fabiano. I'll be very surprised if it doesn't get done, considering how much they've put into it already. All sides are just playing hardball right now because, frankly (and despite the impatience of fans), it's still early. Sometime in the next week or two both Sevilla and Milan will budge and an agreement will be struck because this is the player Milan wants and a player who wants Milan. It will be worth the time and effort if each side gets a better deal than they're facing right now.
Yep, Del Nido is well know for the way he negotiate, and Milan also always play hardball...I still remeber that even with Kaká price set by Săo Paulo in the past(7 or 8 Millions) Milan still play hardball saying that will not pay that price.

Luis Fabiano wants to play for Milan(and Leonardo), the World Cup is near and he´s THE MAN in Brazil NT attack. So, I doubt he goes for another club but Milan. He will not jeaopardy his spot in Brazil NT...and I really doubt Sevilla will want to keep a player that have a offer from a club like Milan. He will be really mad at Sevilla since he´s at 28 and will be his last chance...

Imo it will take sometime, but the parts will reach an agreement. It will be good for all parts. But Sevilla is right, 14M is a joke...as 30M also is. 18 or 20 is a fair price for both clubs...

EDIT: to the team of decada article: To put Abiatti ahead of Dida is shamefull. That guy need to lose his job. But since Goal.com have the most biased articles in the earth, it´s not a surprise...

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Old 14-07-2009, 20:24   #7766

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hernanes is the real deal nao e verdade brasileiro e o grande jogador?
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hernanes is the real deal nao e verdade brasileiro e o(um) grande jogador?
Lol, Rossoneri...great portuguese Next time, just change the o for the bold part. But your portuguese is already better than my English

Hernanes is amazing player. It wasn´t coincidence Guardiola even with Xavi and Iniesta on the team, fought hard to bring Hernanes for Braça last season.

Btw, today the new Săo Paulo coach started to work with a new formation without Hernanes. He´s in a poor form, but I have a feeling that maybe the coach is looking forward to a team without Hernanes...who knows? I´m just speculating...

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Old 14-07-2009, 20:59   #7768

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Imo it will take sometime, but the parts will reach an agreement. It will be good for all parts. But Sevilla is right, 14M is a joke...as 30M also is. 18 or 20 is a fair price for both clubs...
I'm hopeful about that report that Silvio has agreed to go to 17 plus a bonus based on Milan's position. That sounds at least close to something that could get done.
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I'm hopeful about that report that Silvio has agreed to go to 17 plus a bonus based on Milan's position. That sounds at least close to something that could get done.
Yep, thats a good start, a fair offer...

If I´m not wrong, It is the way Milan always played. Galliani throw a cheap offer, the other team didn´t accept, Belusca give hard quotes and after some time they seat to find a resonable price...

It will be great to have the future top scorer of 2010 World Cup playing for my team Even with people thinking that a 29yo player is a elder...
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Old 15-07-2009, 01:48   #7770

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I dont say we'll get Rossi, he's just one of my favourites. But a player like him (and dzeko) is possible to get IMO. we just sold Kaka you know...
Please, no Rossi.

Most overrated forward this year. Hands down.
He saved a poorly performing Italy in 1 game, and suddenly he's everyone's choice for savior but I've watched him for some time
and he's overall disappointing. That's what ManU dropped him and
why no top Italy team will move for him.

Well, I guess I'd trade Dida for him. I'd do anything to get rid of Dida.
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