Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by tardissun

Please, no Rossi.

Most overrated forward this year. Hands down.
He saved a poorly performing Italy in 1 game, and suddenly he's everyone's choice for savior but I've watched him for some time
and he's overall disappointing. That's what ManU dropped him and
why no top Italy team will move for him.

Well, I guess I'd trade Dida for him. I'd do anything to get rid of Dida.

But if you watched him at parma you would agree he is a gifted attacker.

rumour of today is: FRED

Obviously, the hernanes deal hangs on whether Pirlo leaves or not. You think Milan will pull 30 million out of nowhere and keep both? No....

I know I should be think more rationally, but I just want a solid CF now dammit! The failed Dzeko deal that wasted months has irritated my patience, and if this deal drags on, we may enter the season wihthout a new foward.

Simply, if Milan doesn't want to negotaiate with some ba*ls, then forget about a CF (They are always in demand and will cost alot), and seal up our defense first. That is the very least our mercato shouold have ALREADY delivered....

If we leave it too late, patiently waiting for Madrid to leave the market alone and thus lower general prices, we will NOT have the time to negotiate a quality player. After selling Kaka and Gourcuff, we need another attacking option.....

Still, I rate the defense first.

Rossi is a gifted attacker,but he is not better other talents in Italy,he is indeed overrated,nobody here or on other forums were screaming for Milan to make a move for this player and also the press didnt pay attention to him,but suddenly after his goals against USA everybody went nuts and wanted Rossi in his team.That doesnt sound right.

I have seen him play at Villareal many times and yes he is a very good player with talent,i agree.But its not like he is the next C.Ronaldo that we HAVE to snap him up.He isnt needed and even if we wanted him badly it still would be a bad deal just because he is way overpriced,he cost around 30 million according to the reports....thats just ridiculous.

I hope Milan can get the deal done for Fabiano quickly,or Huntelaar i just dont care who comes,we need a new striker and both fit the profile.I am sick now to see reports telling the deal is off and the next day it is on again,just like with the Cissokho-saga,Milan must complete the deal now so that the guy can go with us on the US-Tour.

That Bale rumour is old,he hasnt played that much for Tottenham and i dont know him.

Originally Posted by mrki

Real Madrid hasnt sold Huntelaar yet becouse they will keep him untill Galliani finds himself a CF. If he fails, Milan will get Huntelaar.

Id be happy with Huntelaar. He has a nack of scoring lots of goals. Fabiano in his peak for a higher (price) doesnt sound like a better deal than Huntelaar before he explodes for a lower (?) price.

Besides, I dont think we need Fabiano as much as we need creativity in midfield. Boriello will solve alot of problems this year and Pippo when fit will score. So a young and promising (and patient) player to add to Pato, Boriello and Inzaghi seems the logical step to take.

The transfers I think Milan need to make the most are a creative midfielder and some defenders.

Its obvious to see this mercato wont bring us a goalkeeper, but we need to think about another fullback and a centreback. Nesta is still the best around, but only if he can stay injury free.

Originally Posted by K77SH C

Id be happy with Huntelaar. He has a nack of scoring lots of goals. Fabiano in his peak for a higher (price) doesnt sound like a better deal than Huntelaar before he explodes for a lower (?) price.

Besides, I dont think we need Fabiano as much as we need creativity in midfield. Boriello will solve alot of problems this year and Pippo when fit will score. So a young and promising (and patient) player to add to Pato, Boriello and Inzaghi seems the logical step to take.

The transfers I think Milan need to make the most are a creative midfielder and some defenders.

Its obvious to see this mercato wont bring us a goalkeeper, but we need to think about another fullback and a centreback. Nesta is still the best around, but only if he can stay injury free.

hunter won't come cheap, but if we are to play 20 million for either him or Luis, I would of course pick the Dutchman. We need height and aerial ability more in defense than attack. Huntelaar like you said has good scoring ability....

Yeah, we need a "spark" in our midfield. A player similar to Gourcuff would have been perfect! Most of out midfielders are old and slower, and risk being run around the ground by younger faster teams in Serie A..... (check out the players Palermo and Lazio added to their midfield!)

In terms of adding aerial ability to the defense, Onyewu should theoretically provide that. But is he Milan standard? We will see when he faces against top European teams in America. Just in case though, we need a more proven CB, but I would still be happy with a young Brazilian full back, such as Santos. Miranda would be an option as well.....

Hernanes' arrival would be still hard even if Pirlo is sold.....

For the GK situation, I have all but accepted the fact that no one will arive. I trust Storari more than Kalac though, though one must go...... Dida has earned the no.2 spot and Abbiatti is undisputed no.1

Hope the Marchetti rumours are true

That fullback will arrive,but we should forget about the centreback IMO,after the transfer of Onyewu we havent been linked with any CB this mercato,because we dont need any.Well acctually we need a CB,but we have to many for that position already.Kaladze,Bonera,Favalli,Nesta,Silva,Onyewu and maybe Darmian.IMO THATS 6,EVEN 7 PLAYERS FOR 2 POSITIONS!!!!!!!

So us buying a new CB would be crazy because nobody from the above mentioned players will leave except for Darmian maybe.

6 players for 2 positions is crazy,we wont get any new players for CB.Thats for sure.

We will get a LB,creative CM and a CF.Thats it.And that creative CM will ofcourse only come if Pirlo really leaves.

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

That fullback will arrive,but we should forget about the centreback IMO,after the transfer of Onyewu we havent been linked with any CB this mercato,because we dont need any.Well acctually we need a CB,but we have to many for that position already.Kaladze,Bonera,Favalli,Nesta,Silva,Onyewu and maybe Darmian.IMO THATS 6,EVEN 7 PLAYERS FOR 2 POSITIONS!!!!!!!

So us buying a new CB would be crazy because nobody from the above mentioned players will leave except for Darmian maybe.

6 players for 2 positions is crazy,we wont get any new players for CB.Thats for sure.

We will get a LB,creative CM and a CF.Thats it.And that creative CM will ofcourse only come if Pirlo really leaves.

How could you say that?! We had overloaded defenses im previous years, yet still our defense, in particular, CB, failed us....

For me, there is nothing wrong with having alot of CBs in our squad. It has been a great problem in previous seasons..... Let's play it safe guys!

Albertazzi at the moment is ahead of Darmian, and Darmian should be loaned out.

Guys the owner of the club we bought Oneywu from said he would make an excellent backup. I dont think its realistic for us to expect anything more just yet and his aerial ability is fine, but it wont help us if he is on the bench.

I cant help to wonder, why on earth Zapatta hasnt been bought yet. The way he plays at his age in seria a, he could be the next Thuram.

I really hope the Marchetti thing was true also.

I tell you Saliwonczyk, I am bitter about this mercato. But I wouldnt be half as bitter as I am if we had retained Gourcuff. That would have atleast reembled a plan. Its going to really hurt when he has a good world cup and is sold for 35 mil

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

How could you say that?! We had overloaded defenses im previous years, yet still our defense, in particular, CB, failed us....

For me, there is nothing wrong with having alot of CBs in our squad. It has been a great problem in previous seasons..... Let's play it safe guys!

Albertazzi at the moment is ahead of Darmian, and Darmian should be loaned out.

Its not my opinion ofcourse......

I am just explaining things trough the eyes of the MGT,you cant expect that they are going to try and lure a CB to Milan with already haven six in their squad,abolsutely now way!

Of course everybody including myself want a extra good great young(italian)CB like Santacroce or Zapata.But the MGT isnt going to do that,it was clear: We would get one CB this summer and IF somebody would be sold we would MAYBE get two and you guys know this.The CB that arrived is Gooch.And it seems Kala and the others will stay so there will be no other CB coming in,its sad but its the truth.

And IF that fullback wont arrive then thank god we have a major talent in Albertazzi in our team,because he can do what Santon has done,he is even better then Santon as Santon had to bench for Albertazzi when they played together in the young squad of Italy.

Originally Posted by K77SH C

Guys the owner of the club we bought Oneywu from said he would make an excellent backup. I dont think its realistic for us to expect anything more just yet and his aerial ability is fine, but it wont help us if he is on the bench.

I cant help to wonder, why on earth Zapatta hasnt been bought yet. The way he plays at his age in seria a, he could be the next Thuram.

I really hope the Marchetti thing was true also.

I tell you Saliwonczyk, I am bitter about this mercato. But I wouldnt be half as bitter as I am if we had retained Gourcuff. That would have atleast reembled a plan. Its going to really hurt when he has a good world cup and is sold for 35 mil

yeah, if we didn't insert a clause (don't blame Galliani for that, but believe they didn't try hard enough to convince Yoann to return), we could have sold the player for ATLEAST 30 million! With that cash, getting Dzeko wouldn't have been a problem..... Better, we could have kept him and solved our midfield for years to come.....

Zapatta will cost money, and money is not what Milan is willing to splash out. juve is most likely to get him, but the door is open for us if we are serious..... Better than a Brazilian export, due to his experience in the league.

About Onyewu's former owner, it struck me when I first read the article. Why would this man be happy for the bloke, after he left for free. Wouldn't Liege want some cash out of their star man?! Myabe he wasn't that great?

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

Its not my opinion ofcourse......

I am just explaining things trough the eyes of the MGT,you cant expect that they are going to try and lure a CB to Milan with already haven six in their squad,abolsutely now way!

Of course everybody including myself want a extra good great young(italian)CB like Santacroce or Zapata.But the MGT isnt going to do that,it was clear: We would get one CB this summer and IF somebody would be sold we would MAYBE get two and you guys know this.The CB that arrived is Gooch.And it seems Kala and the others will stay so there will be no other CB coming in,its sad but its the truth.

And IF that fullback wont arrive then thank god we have a major talent in Albertazzi in our team,because he can do what Santon has done,he is even better then Santon as Santon had to bench for Albertazzi when they played together in the young squad of Italy.

Is that really true about Albertazzi and Santon. I am very happy!

But yes, MGT sees our defense by numbers, not injury concerns or actual depth.... in reality, our defensive unit in the centre is very weak, and wouldn't stand well against some top quality European opponents we may be facing in the UEFA Champions League next season.... Reinforcments are needed!

Well if Nesta stays fit then Zambrotta-Nesta-Silva-Albertazzi is good enough to battle Barca and United.But Nesta has to stay fit.

BTW: Milan are asking more then the offered 18 million for Pirlo,they want to see more cash especially because they are going to reinvest it in Hernanes and 18 million isnt good enough to lure the Brazillian to Milaan.Lets see if Chelski offeres more.....

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

Well if Nesta stays fit then Zambrotta-Nesta-Silva-Albertazzi is good enough to battle Barca and United.But Nesta has to stay fit.

BTW: Milan are asking more then the offered 18 million for Pirlo,they want to see more cash especially because they are going to reinvest it in Hernanes and 18 million isnt good enough to lure the Brazillian to Milaan.Lets see if Chelski offeres more.....

Let's drag it our to 25 million! Hernanes will cost atleast 30 million himself.

Silva and Albertazzi are virtually untested against Europe's best (I know Silva once played in Europe)..... The only proven defenders on that list are Zambro and Nesta, so in theory, I would have to disagree. However, by my gut-feelings, I believe you what you are saying.....

Why did you list Albertazzi at LB. Is that where he usually plays, and if so, is he really better than Santon? Would think Antonini and Janko are ahead of him in that spot at the moment.....

That's is me for today.... See you tommorow!

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

yeah, if we didn't insert a clause (don't blame Galliani for that, but believe they didn't try hard enough to convince Yoann to return), we could have sold the player for ATLEAST 30 million! With that cash, getting Dzeko wouldn't have been a problem..... Better, we could have kept him and solved our midfield for years to come.....

Zapatta will cost money, and money is not what Milan is willing to splash out. juve is most likely to get him, but the door is open for us if we are serious..... Better than a Brazilian export, due to his experience in the league.

About Onyewu's former owner, it struck me when I first read the article. Why would this man be happy for the bloke, after he left for free. Wouldn't Liege want some cash out of their star man?! Myabe he wasn't that great?

I AM GOING TO SAY THIS FOR THE LAST TIME:

It keeps irritating me to see comments that suggest that Standard didnt try to offer Gooch a new contract and that he could walk away without Standard caring about it because he wasnt that good.....thats all bull****!

He had one-year left on his contract last season,and trough the whole year Standard were offering him several contract-options to try and convince him to stay,they offered him a long contract deal with allot of cash.But Gooch refused and he wanted a new adventure,the joke is that he was so important for them that they didnt want to sell him in the winter mercato with the chance to earn some cash for him because the coach wanted him to stay for the last half year.Then before he went to the Confederations Cup they were talking with him and his manager again and were offering again a improved contract but he refused.

Thats the story,he was very appreciated in Belgium and even when they had the last chance to cash in for him they refused.