Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by Rick

How are the Dzeko or Fabiano situations either disasters or bad luck? Wolfsburg didn't want to sell Dzeko this summer because they're playing in the Champions League and believe (correctly) that they need him, but they signed him to an extension that allows him to move to Milan next summer for a 20 million euro buyout fee. The Fabiano negotiations are continuing. In fact, it's been reported that Silvio has agreed to go up to 17 million plus bonuses based on Milan's position in the standings. That seems like an offer that's getting very close to what Sevilla will accept if we're patient and don't panic. I realize fans are impatient and think everything should be done in a hurry, but if Milan can save a few million euros by spending time in negotiations, that's good business and the money can be put toward other players.

If they can save a few Million great but whats coming out of Seville is they will not sell him for less than the 25 millon buyout about 28 r 29 million euro we first offered 12 then 15 million euro and will up it to 17 thats still very short of what Seville want (which is very overpriced BTW) move on try for hunter but Galli promising a big name centre forward is laughable when a new keeper (Abs is only average ver prone to mistakes) and a lb + a quality centre back is what we need it is annoying and frustrating and im just airing my frustration as you guys are the only intelligent Milan conversation its possible to get in Ireland.

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

Del Nido,the president of Sevilla has said that the offer that Milan made for Fabiano is a offer for a player of the reserves of Sevilla B and not worthy for Fabiano,he also said that Milan hasnt the money to buy Luis and that he is confident that he will stay with Sevilla for the next two years.

So thats great news.......its getting better and better.......BUT HERE IS THE GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!:

The Sau Paulo President said that if Milan would offer 10 million he would sell Hernanes instantly because he says Hernanes deserves such a transfer,he said that he let Ramires go for 7,5 million and that Hernanes should not cost much more.

hernanes for 10m. I dont believe it

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

hernanes for 10m. I dont believe it

Well thats what that guy from S.Paulo said,i dont think he acctually cost 10 million,i think he was joking but he meant that he wouldnt ask to much money to block a dream transfer for Hernanes to a club such at Milan,so its good news that they are willing to negotiate to a price that we can afford.At least i hope so.....

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

hernanes for 10m. I dont believe it

Me neither, first he said we don't have money to buy Hernanes and now he'll sell him for 10 million, it sounds very strange to me.

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

If they can save a few Million great but whats coming out of Seville is they will not sell him for less than the 25 millon buyout about 28 r 29 million euro we first offered 12 then 15 million euro and will up it to 17 thats still very short of what Seville want (which is very overpriced BTW) move on try for hunter but Galli promising a big name centre forward is laughable when a new keeper (Abs is only average ver prone to mistakes) and a lb + a quality centre back is what we need it is annoying and frustrating and im just airing my frustration as you guys are the only intelligent Milan conversation its possible to get in Ireland.

Well, what Sevilla wants and what they will probably end up accepting are two different things (Fabiano's agent has said all along they would accept 20). Milan and Sevilla are two clubs who are known for being tough in negotiations. I'm confident they'll come to an agreement before all is said and done because Fabiano has been adamant that he wants to make the move (something that helps Milan in the negotiations as they have no bidding competition).

And there's still plenty of time to add other players. We still have a month and a half to go in the mercato. I have doubts Milan will add another center back since they've already added two new ones and Nesta seems like he may be healthy, but I imagine a fullback and possibly a midfielder might be in the works.

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

hernanes for 10m. I dont believe it

It's a fair price for him as he's never played in Europe. And as was said, Ramires (who has been in better form) went to Benfica for 7 million. Hernanes has more potential, but I doubt Milan would go much beyond the 10. The stuff before about 30 was just nonsense.

Originally Posted by Acmir^

Me neither, first he said we don't have money to buy Hernanes and now he'll sell him for 10 million, it sounds very strange to me.

Its not the same guy that has said that banana stuff about us,he was a board director and the man who is saying that he would let Hernanes go to us for 10 million is the President,so i could be true as he was quoted.

Now that i think about it,it should make sense,Ramires is already a international for Brazil and despite the fact that he is young he played allot at the Confederations Cup,and S.Paulo only sold him for 7.5 million to Benfica.....so why should Hernanes,who isnt a Brazil National Player and isnt as famous as Hernanes,should cost allot more then Ramires????

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

Its not the same guy that has said that banana stuff about us,he was a board director and the man who is saying that he would let Hernanes go to us for 10 million is the President,so i could be true as he was quoted.

Now that i think about it,it should make sense,Ramires is already a international for Brazil and despite the fact that he is young he played allot at the Confederations Cup,and S.Paulo only sold him for 7.5 million to Benfica.....so why should Hernanes,who isnt a Brazil National Player and isnt as famous as Hernanes,should cost allot more then Ramires????

Ah I thought it was the same man, so now it makes more sense to me, I really hope we bid for him

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

That Bale rumour is old,he hasnt played that much for Tottenham and i dont know him.

Bale is a fantastic talent. He's only 19 and has already been a revelation for the Wales NT. His time with Spurs has been a bit spotty because he was out for an extended period with a ligament injury to his ankle, but he's a guy who has a lot of speed and can make plays from the left back position or can play the wing. He's tremendous on free kicks. Jose Mourinho has expressed an admiration for Bale on more than one occasion, even putting him at left back in a pre-season Premiership XI he did for one of the London papers last year. The Special One even said Bale could be better than Ashley Cole. And he's probably right.

The problem with Bale is that I don't think he would be ready to step in and make the left back position his own right away, at least not at Milan. He would be more one for the future, but if Milan bought him and brought him along slowly, he could be a great one. Unless, of course, the Gareth Bale Curse is transferable (it seems that Spurs have never won in his 24 Premier League games for Tottenham).

Originally Posted by Christian

It's good to hear that we keep getting linked with Hernanes, but am I the only one who thinks that he looks more like a Seedorf replacement than a Pirlo replacement? I don't know why everyone wants us to play with two 'DM's', not alot of clubs in Europe does that, and when we played the best football under Ancelotti we were playing with Seedorf, Pirlo, Gattuso in the middle.

I also don't see why it would be unrealistic to get Hernanes and keep Pirlo, in case anyone forgot, we've sold players for 80M euro's this season. The 30-40 M euro price tag is just something being thrown around because of the Banana comment, which the Sao Paolo official only said because of Berlusconi's comments after we bought Kaká (He said that the money spent on Kaká was peanuts or something). And if we were going to spent 40 M on a Pirlo replacement, then I hear that Fabregas is available for 40-45M euro's.

In any case, if we buy Hernanes, then we'll have to many midfielders, I really don't think Pirlo should go, because he's the only offensive minded player we can rely on now. In my opinion one of Ambrosini, Flamini or Gattuso would need to go, if possible, because Hernanes, Pirlo, Seedorf, Ambrosini, Flamini and Gattuso is just to many players in the same position.

Hernanes is different in style to both Seedorf and Pirlo, in that his game is a mix of both. Let's also not forget Seedorf has played Pirlo's role in the past season, and did it quite well, so it's not too surprising Hernanes reminds people of Seedorf but is tooted as a Pirlo replacement. He positionally plays in the same areas, but his interpretation of the role is different. Let's also not forget he's versatile and so can play a multitude of midfield roles.

I agree I don't want Pirlo to go even if Hernanes comes (both can fit), but I think many (press and fans) go off Berlu's salary comments regarding Pirlo and the endless rumours.

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

then you werent a member before the USA game. becouse I and some others always wanted rossi to join. Judging a player on a confederations cup game is stupid.

Yet it seems to me that's been the case for many and Onyewu.

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

Its not the same guy that has said that banana stuff about us,he was a board director and the man who is saying that he would let Hernanes go to us for 10 million is the President,so i could be true as he was quoted.

Now that i think about it,it should make sense,Ramires is already a international for Brazil and despite the fact that he is young he played allot at the Confederations Cup,and S.Paulo only sold him for 7.5 million to Benfica.....so why should Hernanes,who isnt a Brazil National Player and isnt as famous as Hernanes,should cost allot more then Ramires????

Actually Dutchie there are more factors...

Hernanes isn´t a internatonal because for some reason Dunga didn´t rate him. He was chose the best here last season and the entire Brazil wanted him in our NT. What Dunga did? Didn´t call the guy...

One more thing to put in mind is: Cruzeiro(Ramires team) always sell their best players very cheap. There´s no way that a player like Ramires should be sold for 7.5 millions...with a global crises or not. São Paulo on the other hand, is a club that didn´t have this culture...they don´t sell easy or cheap. Last year they turned dow 15 millions of Barcelona for Hernanes, and only a few clubs(can only remeber of 3) will turn down a 15M offer in Brazil.

Said that, Hernanes, since didn´got called for Dunga is in a poor form. The guy need a change of air and it´s time for him to go to Europe. I don´t know were these 30million started, but I can guarantee this number is a big joke. Also, São Paulo team know that the time to sell Hernanes is now(last year they would got more), and they know this year his values goes down. Knowing our club, I can to see what we offered early(5 million) and can understand S. Paulo director reaction.

But as I said in another post, São Paulo coach is already working in a formation without Hernanes, and only if will screw the negotiation(anoher cheap offer) the player will not be ours.

So, just to finish, Ramires price isn´t a real factor here, because Cruzeiro isn´t know as a club that know how to sell their players. Last year Hernanes was worth between 15-20 millions(São Paulo asked for 25). This year, 10 to 15 millions imo is more realistic...but since the guy is in a poor form, I can see São Paulo accepting a 10 or 12 million bid easily.

Sevilla President Jose Maria Del Nido was ‘insulted’ by Milan’s offer for Luis Fabiano and claims the club has “no money.”

The Rossoneri saw their offer of £12.5m for the Brazilian hitman rejected on Tuesday evening, as the price-tag is £18m.


“The negotiations are complex, but Milan have made no formal offer. We are the owners of the players’ contract,” said President Del Nido.


“Milan have no money to swoop for Luis Fabiano. The first offer we received from them was worthy only of a reserve player. It was insulting.


“Luis renewed his contract with us and I really think he will remain in Seville for the next two years.”


The San Siro giants pocketed £56m from Kaka’s sale to Real Madrid, but are yet to truly reinvest any of it.


Their only signings of the summer so far have been free transfers, such as Oguchi Onyewu from Standard Liege, and players returning from loan spells.


Luis Fabiano has begged to join Milan, but the two clubs are yet to agree a fee, as the Italians appear to be haggling over the price.



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Is anyone else embarassed a bit this is the fourth team that has said they have been insulted by Milan MGTS offers I know some of this is because they want more money , but Wolsburg said our offer was a joke , Porto knew it was an awfull cheating tactic to get Aly at a cheaper price , Sao Paulo President said how much is a crate of Bananas worth cause thats all we have for Hernanes , and now Seville .

I know I go through glass half full/glass half empty moods , but its getting embarassing and will not be good for future business.

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

Is anyone else embarassed a bit this is the fourth team that has said they have been insulted by Milan MGTS offers I know some of this is because they want more money , but Wolsburg said our offer was a joke , Porto knew it was an awfull cheating tactic to get Aly at a cheaper price , Sao Paulo President said how much is a crate of Bananas worth cause thats all we have for Hernanes , and now Seville .

I know I go through glass half full/glass half empty moods , but its getting embarassing and will not be good for future business.

I'm sorry to say, but I agree with you. I know the market is young, but for f***'s sake, come on already.

BTW, some salt for the wound, tuttomercato has said that Napoli has smacked a 6m price tag on Santacroce who is waiting for Juve's call. This is sad in three ways. (1) Cheap price for a good player (2) A young, Italian talent that is probably going to rot on the bench behind Chiellini, Canna, and maybe even Legrottaglie (remember, he had a decent year last year) (3) We probably have NO chance whatsoever since I believe Milan do not have a good relationship with De Laurentis.

I dont know if I believe the price tag, but just to even see it, it's sad.

Oh yee with little faith....
MGT knows best........


at least we have more books...hmmmm I mean class, than Inter



..........let's wait until August 31st.





..............believe in the MGT............

Leonardo has passed the exam of the course professional Uefa coaches of the 2nd category. The calendar of the exams, with the exams of all the participants, will be completed next Friday. (Ansa)


Leo my son, I'm so proud of you.
So does anyone know how many categories are there in these coaching licences?

Now that I've seen our latest transfer news, I really think they assigned Leo as a coach in order to save on salary of a worldclass coach.