Summer mercato 2009

Lyon Close In On Porto's Aly Cissokho - Marino Faccioli
The French club's sporting director is confident they will be able to agree to the Dragons' demands for the left-back.
15 Jul 2009 19:40:47
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Aly Cissokho was close to joining AC Milan earlier in the summer, but his €15 million move to the San Siro collapsed after a medical revealed a dental problem.

Although Porto are interested in keeping Cissokho, whom they signed from Vitoria de Setubal for just €300,000, they have refused to rule out the possibility of accepting a new offer for the Frenchman.

And Marino Faccioli, Lyon's sporting director, has now indicated that Porto are asking for €15 million to let go of Cissokho.

"We are waiting for the answer from FC Porto," he told RMC. "When we were in Portugal last week, president Pinto da Costa demanded a higher fee and we have met that figure.

"Porto are still undecided because they may miss the player.

"Pinto da Costa said that if a club offered €15 million they would take the player. The logical thing is that the president will not go against his word."


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Thank you Galliani and Berlusconi!

I believe cissokho will rock at lyon and in a few years he is worth double the amount lyon will pay now. a real shame!!

Despite what Milan have done in the past to rescue a desperate Mercato, i am beggining to feel that those incharge are not able or willing to acquire the relevant players needed to improve our squad... they think it is ok for milan to go another season without a MAJOR trophy... but who are us to do anything about it... Milan is the PM own for him to do what he wants without any regards to us fans... i wish we were one of those clubs where we can vote out the president...
at times it is very saddening when you look at our squad and only two players (Pato & Pirlo) are (rumored) wanted only by another club (Chelsea) because of their former coach. Just look at it... we keep our players here so long that their resale value is ZERO... now because they fail to forecast we end up with a lot of useless worthless players that can only drain our accounts withhigh wages for doing NOTHING. It is hard to believe that we cannot afford to buy Fabiano for what he is worth... not many other good AVAILABLE reliable srtikers out there... Fabiano is problably the best of the bunch... we dont even have a player that we could offer as a party of the deal!!!
HOPE and pray is all we here can do... for our beloved Milan.

there are no guarantees that Cissokho will exponentially increase in talent a injury or a family tragedy could vastly hinder his development. I agree he is a classy player but so is Criscito and Motta, Milan would benefit vastly from the talents of the two young Italian sb. As for Fabiano I think he is worth 20 million euros the goals and the other competences he would bring to Milan would be considerably useful in our objective for a top 4 finish. I can see much of a long term future for Fabiano at Milan in 5 years time he will be another montella or cruz quality players but really too old for elite serie a teams.

Although i do hope Cissokho does extremely well for porto or lyon it would be a clear sign to berlusconi and galliani that they are absolutely wrong about Milan approach to the transfer market. It seems for every talented player Milan obtains 2 useless players join the team. example Flamini- senderos and shevchenko year before Pato- ronaldo and emerson

In a way we seem to be bankrupt, due to the tremendous salaries Milan pays for Dida, Seedorf, Ambro and so on, fantasy salaries from old contracts. I mean, if Milan would have the ability to sign the players they want, they would do so, especialy after they need to find a replacement for Kaka.

If possible Milan needs to "divide" (is it the appropriate word in english?) itself from all the old players with old contracts and should begin to rebuild like Juventus did with younger and cheaper players.

I think, this is the condition to rule the mercato in future times again, for now i'm quite pessimistic as we dont have signed one single reinforcement.

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

But the big difference here is that barca didnt sold their best player!!
+ Barca's team is full of players who are at a good age and are in their prime. while our squad is full of dead wood and we REALLY need some decent signings. while barca at this point are capable of winning the CL and la liga again with this squad they have

So it's all about Kaka then?

And who is this dead wood you're talking about? Of the players who are actually likely to play significant roles for Milan, who is it that you think is incapable of contributing? And it's not like all the Barcelona players are all 25 and under, you know. Henry will soon be 32. Puyol is 31. Abidal will soon be 30. Marquez is already 30. Some other key Barcelona players are in their late 20s. Did you know that Xavi is actually older than Ronaldinho?

I do agree that Barcelona is capable of winning the Champions League and La Liga again with the squad they have, but I also think Milan is capable of winning Serie A with the squad they have (as Milan has no Real Madrid to deal with, only fairly mediocre Inter and Juventus).

Originally Posted by HO-YOUNG

We have a month and a half to get the "whats left" of the market... players thay our major competitors dont want... mid table scrapers... how ever they will just fit in well with the others we have already...
Barca is 4 years ahead of madrid... they dont need to sign anyone... unlike milan who NEED to sign atleast 5 young good quality players and get rid of Seedorf, favali and co.

You don't think Seedorf can still help the team as a reserve and spot starter?

And just because a player is transfered late, it doesn't mean they're "table scraps." That's ridiculous. Was Nesta a table scrap? Was Pato a table scrap? On the final day last year both Robinho and Berbatov changed clubs. Wayne Rooney was a deadline day deal several years ago. Quaresma (not a success, but a big name) was a deadline day deal for Inter last year. Milito was a deadline day deal for Genoa. Baptista moved in mid-August. Madrid signed Rafael van der Vaart in August. The list goes on and on.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

My friend, desperate times call for desperate measures...

Barcelona are being cagey because they need one or two players to make their team perfect.

They didn't just lose their Kaka' (Messi) after another far from spectacular season. It's not that Milan aren't buying that is the only problem, but their negotiation tactics are really giving the club a bad name.

But why do you consider these times desperate? Milan moved up the Serie A standings from 5th to a tie for 2nd last season, despite a huge rash of injuries that hobbled Kaka, Pirlo and others while knocking out Nesta, Borriello and Gattuso for the long term. Yes, Kaka is gone. But Milan has never been about any one player. Milan is about team. Nesta, Borriello and Gattuso seem healthy again. Thiago Silva has been added to the back line (as well as Onyewu, regardless of how skeptical some of you might be about him since he's American, but he does bring some qualities that Milan needed). Ronaldinho is healthy and ready to take up a lot of the slack that was left with Kaka's departure. And there's still a month and a half to go in the transfer market. So why does Milan need to panic?

And no, Barcelona didn't lose Messi. But they did watch their greatest rivals add Ronaldo, Kaka and Benzema. Sure, Barcelona is the defending champion of La Liga and the Champions League, but can they really feel secure considering the fact that the previous two seasons they had won absolutely nothing? Yet, they refuse to panic and throw money around indescriminately.

Originally Posted by Fret

Barcelona didn't sign anyone........


well, unlike some that only rule the transfer market, Barca rules in playing football, so they need not to pay any attention to the almighty transfer market (well maybe just some Villa guy, I don't know)


...oh and i forgot to mention....their squad is full of champions (except Villa)

Well, Barcelona's fans -- at least those on one Barcelona forum -- would beg to disagree with you. Many are very frustrated at the club's lack of action in the transfer market and what the Barca fans perceive to be an inability to respond to Real Madrid's aggressive moves. I was spending some time browsing a Barcelona forum and while their fans may not be quite in the full blown panic mode that many of the posters here seem to have reached, they're still pretty vocal about their frustrations. I saw Laporta called a bull****ter and a stingy bastard. And here's a post by a fan of another club and response by a reasonable Barcelona fan that I think indicates the frustration of the posters at the Barca forum:

Quote:Originally Posted by blueduck
Fook me, there really are some gloomy cules on here.
You've just won the treble
Have a fantastic young manager
You have two of the best young players on the planet
Worlds best academy
A huge fan base
One of the best best stadiums in the world

You could also be swapping Eto'o for David Villa, who is better imo.

If us City fans were as miserable as you lot, we would of hung ourselves years ago.

Originally posted by Warik:
You get used to it. 30+ years of support and there has always been an air of pessimism from fans of the club. Though when you go to Barna and talk to most other cules there they don't care about the (lack of) movement in the club right now. I think theres a line between healthy pessimism and some of the 'i might as well kill myself now because we haven't signed David Villa' sort of pessimism that is expressed here.

I think that's pretty much the case here as well. I doubt the average Milan fan on the street is ready to hang him/herself because the club hasn't wrapped up the transfer season by mid-July. But the transfer sections of fan forums will naturally attract a pretty fair amount of the more impatient among us.

I actually think Onyewu is a good player.

Rick, Milan does not need to panic, but they need to start integrating players soon. They have a new coach who needs all the help he can get. Buying players at the end of August will not help Leo.

I have a feeling, and I may be wrong, if we didn't buy anyone this summer, you would be content. Leaving aside your natural disposition in life (which seems very optimistic), from a footballing perspective, do you think not bringing in, say, a striker would leave us with a competitive side? By competitive I mean able to challenge for the Scudetto. I think, yes, but only if we stay injury free. If Nesta or Pato are hurt then...

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

I actually think Onyewu is a good player.

Rick, Milan does not need to panic, but they need to start integrating players soon. They have a new coach who needs all the help he can get. Buying players at the end of August will not help Leo.

Well sure, it will be good if Milan can sign a couple of players in the next couple of weeks. By the end of July will be plenty of time to have them ready for the start of the season. But even if players come at the transfer deadline, they'll still be helpful for most of the season.

I have a feeling, and I may be wrong, if we didn't buy anyone this summer, you would be content. Leaving aside your natural disposition in life (which seems very optimistic), from a footballing perspective, do you think not bringing in, say, a striker would leave us with a competitive side? By competitive I mean able to challenge for the Scudetto. I think, yes, but only if we stay injury free. If Nesta or Pato are hurt then...

I'd be disappointed if Milan didn't bring in another player or two because the squad does have some thin spots. I just don't think it's vital that it has to be done right now. The squad will be fine for the early games. It's only later when players get fatigued or injured that it might hurt to have to rely on some of the more untested players. But I do have confidence in players like Abate, Antonini, etc., to step up and play well for short periods if they have to, so it would not be the end of the world if Milan didn't sign anyone else. I still think Milan is a top 3 team with the current squad. But I would like to see some reinforcements before the deadline to give us more of a chance at challenging for the Scudetto. I think a lot of the pessimism stems from the perception a lot of Milan fans (at least the ones here) seem to have that everyone is laughing at us (which isn't the case at all). But looking at the cold, hard facts, this Milan squad has a lot of quality and should be better than anyone in Serie A aside from maybe Inter and Juventus.

Anyway, I just found this:

Ex-Inter Striker Adriano Could Join AC Milan - Agent
After revealing he is planning a return to Italy, Adriano's agent today said the player may even opt to join Milan, arch-rivals of his previous club Inter...
15 Jul 2009 20:33:30


Yesterday Adriano's agent Gilmar Rinaldi revealed there is a plausible chance that the former Inter striker will return to Italy after his stint in Brazil with Flamengo. Today Rinaldi got more specific about what club the Brazilian could be joining.

"He is doing well, but he could return to Italy," he reiterated to Telelombardia. "There are also some options in Spain and I think he's considering it. When he was at Inter, there was talk he could join Milan, he could go there in the future."

In the past it was said that Adriano would feel much more at home at Milan than at Inter, as the Rossoneri have many Brazilians in their team, while the Nerazzurri have always had a strong Argentinean contingent over the last few years.

The most recent high-profile case of an Inter player directly joining Milan was striker Christian Vieri, who left the Nerazzurri for their cross-town rivals in 2005, but he was unable to reproduce his form with Inter for the Rossoneri.

Danilo Pochini, Goal.com

Originally Posted by K77SH C

I wish people would stop comparing us to Barcelona evertime they want to make excuses or try and convince them selves we are doing well.

People try to find any thing that are similar but they don't compare the quality of Barcelona and Milan right now.

Barca signed maxwell from inter for 4.5 euros!!!!

Well, we are linked to D'Agostino on tuttomercatoweb and milannews. It is because rumors of Pirlo's departure keep gaining momentum. It'll be interesting to see what happens. I don't want Pirlo to leave, as a matter of fact I think it's essential that he stays with us....however it's a crazy summer and if he does leave, D'Agostino would be my number ONE choice to fill in the void. I haven't seen Hernanes enough to comment on him. I have only seen 2 full games of him playing so I can't possibly evaluate him. But I saw many D'Agostino games and he definately was one of the best midfielders in Italy this past season.

Anyhow, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

Originally Posted by Siregar

People try to find any thing that are similar but they don't compare the quality of Barcelona and Milan right now.

It's not a matter of comparing the quality between Barcelona and Milan. That's completely irrelevant. It's a matter of comparing the relative inactivity in the transfer market. Barcelona may have better players, but Milan doesn't have Inter or Juve throwing hundreds of millions of euros around to buy Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema, etc. Remember, while Barcelona is coming off a spectacular season, they had that season on the heels of two straight years with no trophies whatsoever. So they can't be feeling totally secure when they see Real Madrid buying some of the biggest players in the world. Yet, Barcelona (like Milan) is not going to panic just because a bunch of fans on a message board think the world is coming to an end. After all, Milan might not quite have Barcelona's roster at the moment, but they don't have to fend off Real Madrid either. They only have to keep pace with fairly mediocre Inter and Juventus.

Originally Posted by Rick

So it's all about Kaka then?

You don't think Seedorf can still help the team as a reserve and spot starter?

And just because a player is transfered late, it doesn't mean they're "table scraps." That's ridiculous. Was Nesta a table scrap? Was Pato a table scrap? On the final day last year both Robinho and Berbatov changed clubs. Wayne Rooney was a deadline day deal several years ago. Quaresma (not a success, but a big name) was a deadline day deal for Inter last year. Milito was a deadline day deal for Genoa. Baptista moved in mid-August. Madrid signed Rafael van der Vaart in August. The list goes on and on.


I think that's pretty much the case here as well. I doubt the average Milan fan on the street is ready to hang him/herself because the club hasn't wrapped up the transfer season by mid-July. But the transfer sections of fan forums will naturally attract a pretty fair amount of the more impatient among us.

So what u are saying is that we are just monkeying around now and we will splash the cash when the window is ready to close on players who where our fifth or sixth choice? We only signed Pato because another club would have signed him if we waited till January...

I am waiting to see what happens when the smoke clears...

I also don't want Pirlo go away from Milan. I just watched our first friendly game and I think I miss how he playmakes our game and gives beuaty to our play. Milan first match was more a tactical play with almost no beauty of football (only Ronaldinho made the play look a bit attaractive to wach). It's just like watching Inter or Italy.

Originally Posted by nefremo

Well, we are linked to D'Agostino on tuttomercatoweb and milannews. It is because rumors of Pirlo's departure keep gaining momentum. It'll be interesting to see what happens. I don't want Pirlo to leave, as a matter of fact I think it's essential that he stays with us....however it's a crazy summer and if he does leave, D'Agostino would be my number ONE choice to fill in the void. I haven't seen Hernanes enough to comment on him. I have only seen 2 full games of him playing so I can't possibly evaluate him. But I saw many D'Agostino games and he definately was one of the best midfielders in Italy this past season.

Anyhow, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

Many people (myself included) think he's better than Pirlo at this point. He's certainly coming off a better season. That would be a smart trade for Milan. He won't come cheap (Udinese's president was making fun of Juve for the low bid they made), but if Milan can get more from Chelsea for Pirlo than what he's really worth at this point, I think D'Agostino would be a perfect replacement.

Originally Posted by HO-YOUNG

So what u are saying is that we are just monkeying around now and we will splash the cash when the window is ready to close on players who where our fifth or sixth choice? We only signed Pato because another club would have signed him if we waited till January...

I am waiting to see what happens when the smoke clears...

No, that's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that sometimes these things take time. It's still very likely that Fabiano will be a Milan player, but negotiations are sometimes difficult. It's always been like that, not only for Milan but for just about every club. Milan worked almost all summer to bring Nesta to Milan on the last day of the mercato (the deal was declared dead in mid-August). Just because a player moves in late July or August doesn't mean they are a fifth or sixth choice. Was Wayne Rooney a fifth or sixth choice for United? If Fabiano, Hernanes, D'Agostino or whoever move to Milan in August, does that make them any lesser players than if they move to Milan in mid-July?