Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

I just had to... I'm getting sick and tired of all those whining people that have written the same posts 154 times about the bad state we're in, and that we haven't signed 17 new players at a total of £349 million so far in this transfer window...

most crappy post in this whole thread! if you read the post of the people here then you'll see that nobody wants totally unrealistic things about spending more than 100m!!! the only thing people ask is 3-4 Good signings! and after the sale of kaka that isnt too much too ask!! so dont be mister wise guy please

Originally Posted by Rick

he two clubs finished level on points. If Italy used the same tiebreakers as England and Spain, it would have been Milan who would have been declared runner-up.

I had to laugh hard when I read this when galliani said this. I called him an idiot, I wont call you that becouse I respect you
BUT!! MILAN PLAYS IN ITALY!!!!!!! the rest doesnt matter!

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

isnt the sale of kaka a valid point for wanting some decent signings? we've just lost the player who handed us our last CL! it was a one man show. and he's gone now. I think we need a really good mercato to make up for the loss of kaka.

yes we have many (expensive!!) deadwood in our squad. dida, kalac, kaladze, favalli, oddo, seedorf. expensive players who add nothing to the team and should be replaced in a perfect world, but it aint gonna happen.

BTW barca just signed maxwell, an excellent transfer if you ask me

I suppose my memory of the Champions League and yours isn't the same. I remember Kaka being a big part, but I also remember 10 other players being on the pitch at any one time and contributing significantly -- as a team -- to the victory.

As for "decent signings," of course, everybody wants them. But for the millionth time, there is still a month and a half to go in the mercato. We don't know what's going to happen between now and then.

As for the "deadwood" you named, not a single one of those players is likely to be a full-time starter this year, but merely reserves. And I'd hardly call Seedorf "deadwood." He may no longer be a guy you want in there all the time, but as a substitute and spot starter, he can be extremely valuable. As for Dida, if they can work out this swap thing with Corinthians, that would be great. But he still proved to be valuable after Abiatti was injured, so there must be some life left in that wood. And it's a funny thing about Oddo. Before Milan bought him people around here had a huge erection for him. He seemed to be one of the players posters wanted most. People were thrilled when Milan bought him and then he played well in helping Milan to win the Champions League (oh, right, Kaka was out there all by himself, sorry, I forgot). Now, two years later, Oddo is deadwood. Great call Milan fans!

As for Maxwell, Barcelona hasn't actually signed him. They've only agreed to a fee. Maybe they'll find something wrong with his teeth.

Originally Posted by Rick

I think Cardaccio and Viudez are looking at loan deals, which is a good idea. I'm not sure it would be good for Milan to just give up on them so soon.

I'm not sure why you would want to get rid of Abate or Antonini.

Rather them than Pirlo

This season summer transfer make me quite upset. Everytime i read news it seems that all the player that linked to Milan just for their interest nothing concrete deal or offer has to be made, otherwise it is on-off deal which lead to dead end situation then the player not joining instead of their wishes to play for Milan.

If you see other serie A rivals especially Inter and Juve, it seem they have easier negotiation then they wrap up the deal within only 2-3 days, its kinda frustating. I do believe we need several players in order to meet our objectives for scudetto hopefully CL title also, but if like only CL spot is our objective then our current squad IMO is enough already with Gooch and 1 more signin

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

I had to laugh hard when I read this when galliani said this. I called him an idiot, I wont call you that becouse I respect you
BUT!! MILAN PLAYS IN ITALY!!!!!!! the rest doesnt matter!

But you miss the point. Everyone is in panic because Milan finished in third and therefore isn't as good as Juventus, but it was third only by a technicality. Had the tiebreaker been different, Milan would have been second only by a technicality. The fact is that Milan and Juventus finished in a tie for second. So for the 2008-09 season, Milan and Juve were equals. Tiebreakers don't change that in any way except for accounting purposes.

Originally Posted by K77SH C

Rather them than Pirlo

Depends on what you get for Pirlo and who you replace him with.

Luis Fabiano blames Milan
Thursday 16 July, 2009
Luis Fabiano again begged Milan to increase their £12.5m offer to Sevilla, but Adriano Galliani insists “we’ll wait for the sales.”

The Brazilian is very eager for a move to San Siro and would be available for around £16m, considerably less than the buy-out clause of £25m, but the Rossoneri’s bid was considered “ridiculous and insulting” by Sevilla.

“My assistant has already done his part, but now Milan must do the rest,” warned agent Jose Fuentes.

“I hear from Rossoneri sources that they are preparing a second offer, but I hope it’s not too late. If I’m perfectly honest, £12.5m for the first choice centre-forward in the Selecao is a bit cheap.

“Luis Fabiano is proud of Milan’s interest, as they are one of the biggest clubs in the world. But this is precisely why we think a side of this level should not stop at such a low offer.”

The accusations of being ‘cheap’ do not appear to have damaged Milan Vice-President Galliani.

“It just means we will wait for the sales. Prices have already started to fall,” he said.


channel4

Originally Posted by Rick

But you miss the point. Everyone is in panic because Milan finished in third and therefore isn't as good as Juventus, but it was third only by a technicality. Had the tiebreaker been different, Milan would have been second only by a technicality. The fact is that Milan and Juventus finished in a tie for second. So for the 2008-09 season, Milan and Juve were equals. Tiebreakers don't change that in any way except for accounting purposes.

But the tiebreaker isn't different, and thus Milan finished third.

They were also miles away from Inter.

In other news, Inter are close to securing Hleb (channel4).

Originally Posted by Rick

But you miss the point. Everyone is in panic because Milan finished in third and therefore isn't as good as Juventus, but it was third only by a technicality. Had the tiebreaker been different, Milan would have been second only by a technicality. The fact is that Milan and Juventus finished in a tie for second. So for the 2008-09 season, Milan and Juve were equals. Tiebreakers don't change that in any way except for accounting purposes.

Yes but we sold Kaka lost Maldini and our coach and Juve have added Canna good for a year and Diego + Melo who are quality.

Originally Posted by Rick

I suppose my memory of the Champions League and yours isn't the same. I remember Kaka being a big part, but I also remember 10 other players being on the pitch at any one time and contributing significantly -- as a team -- to the victory.

As for "decent signings," of course, everybody wants them. But for the millionth time, there is still a month and a half to go in the mercato. We don't know what's going to happen between now and then.

As for the "deadwood" you named, not a single one of those players is likely to be a full-time starter this year, but merely reserves. And I'd hardly call Seedorf "deadwood." He may no longer be a guy you want in there all the time, but as a substitute and spot starter, he can be extremely valuable. As for Dida, if they can work out this swap thing with Corinthians, that would be great. But he still proved to be valuable after Abiatti was injured, so there must be some life left in that wood. And it's a funny thing about Oddo. Before Milan bought him people around here had a huge erection for him. He seemed to be one of the players posters wanted most. People were thrilled when Milan bought him and then he played well in helping Milan to win the Champions League (oh, right, Kaka was out there all by himself, sorry, I forgot). Now, two years later, Oddo is deadwood. Great call Milan fans!

As for Maxwell, Barcelona hasn't actually signed him. They've only agreed to a fee. Maybe they'll find something wrong with his teeth.

I hope we could hijack that Maxwell deal! as he is a brilliant player IMO.
I never was a fan of Oddo, though he did play a decent half season when we signed him. But at this point I want him to leave as I really believe he has nothing to add to our team. I'd rather kept Mattioni

Dida is OK as 2nd goalkeepr, but he is by far the most expensive goalkeepr in the world (4m!!!! a year). and isnt money our main problem for our bad mercato so far?

Yes there were 10 other players on the field, but if we wouldnt had kaka (like we do now!) we wouldnt have won the CL! that is something I 100% believe him. he was instrumental in the celtic game, the final, vs man utd...


And its true we still have (more than) a month left for transfers, but so far its been crap. and thats why I and most other milan fans are worried. not only becouse of our inactivity but also becouse the same thing happened in recent mercatos in the summer. I dont have the total believe that milan will make everything OK in the last month of this mercato. and and OK mercato with the loss of kaka isnt signing fabiano, onyewu and t. silva. we need more! and it doesnt look good IMO.

but if we've got Hernanes, Rossi, Santacroce and cissokho by the end of august I'll shut up and praise the management

Rick i just want to say that it WAS true that Juve isnt light years ahead of us like some people mentioned,thats just pure crap.But now they are ahead of us because they signed Diego AND Melo AND Canna(one year solution but still...)and we lost Kaka.

So yes they are ahead of us now,you have to admit that,plus they have a major talent in Giovinco who will be more on the pitch then last year.

Also,like i said before the Fabiano saga is like the one of Cissokho,both the players are upset with Milan and both the agents are saying that the negotiations are still on(while they are acctually dead)and that Milan has to offer more....

Oh and one more thing Rick,yes everybody wanted Oddo,he came and he was one of the best RB in the world,being also a regular starter for Italy,and then he became crap,thats the story,he had one crap season with us,but the whole team was crap so we couldnt blame him really,but then he went to Bayern and still performed crap(please dont tell me he did fine there because i saw him play and if he really was good then Bayern would have kept him by spending a small 5 million,but he wasnt worth it).

Its a mystery wat happend with Oddo,i dont know,but he is crap.

I understand all those who are p*ss*d with the management, and really, I dont see how one could possibly be happy with it.

But the thing is, in any case, whether or not the management is doing it because we actually are in the red or if they want to put money in their pockets, whether or not Berlusconi doesnt care about Milan any more or if he has gone insane, we are on a budget..... We will spend at most 20 million euros.

That rules out pretty much any forward we are linked with or any quality forward.
Personally, seeing Hernanes price of 10 million, which seems too low to be true after the Sao Paolo president was *1tch*ng about selling him for 40 million, I would buy him and then a CB or LB for the money left. That way maybe we could play with 4-5-1 formation...

Of course, maybe Leonardo probably has other plans, but Im just saying that that is what I would do. I would much rather have a solid defence than an attack with Luis Fabiano (assuming we can rip him for 20 mil).... Luis Fabiano still hasnt proven anything (IMHO), especially in Serie A. Boriello is maybe a safer bet.

In anycase, the point is, like it or not (I dont see how anyone could possibly like it :p), our budget is 20 mil.

Forget about Cissokho,Lyon has agreed terms with Porto,its almost official

There is only one man who can save us:

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