Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by brk

Damn it, I knew there was something wrong! Heh. You have to admit, 11 man Milan can beat a 10 man Inter. Maybe.

Hehehe

or "You have to admit, 10 man Inter can beat an 11 man Milan?

A video of Juan Maldonado who we've been linked with of late. All I know about him is he had a period of time with Arsenal in his career...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suHbtUTtaCI

Originally Posted by Gio-mania

Hernanes for 10 mil and Trezeguet for Oddo, and some defensive player for the remainder of the cash - sure not a class starting defender but some valuable back up, possibly young and promising - and I am happy for this transfer market.

A question to those who know something about Hernanes... could he be played along side with Pirlo? Or maybe a bit on the flank? How could we organize a 5-man midfield with him?

------Gattuso----Pirlo
Hernanes--------------Flamini
---------------R80


As for Davide Di Gennaro, I dont think he can be too much of a back-up for Dinho.... I guess Seedorf can be the back-up.... I mean, maybe if he doesnt get to play much he will run and put more effort to get a starting spot, and if he isnt played every week he will be fresher. He could be a fine sub. Especially if we get Hernanes, I dont see him as a starter.

Hernanes can play as DM, a two way midfielder (water carrier like Seedorf's old role) and the deep playmaker role like Pirlo. It should be possible to fit them both into a side, but how it's best done is the more important question.

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

Have I missed something here? Why exactly would we need to agree to subsidize part of their contract? Even then if this were to happen, we could cover the difference with the money we get from the sale. It means that we don't really make much, but at the very least we get two mammoth wages off the list.

What team that would want Dida could afford his wages? There lies the problem. It's easy to say Milan should sell him and a few other of the old guys, but the only teams that might be interested would be mid-table clubs and relegation strugglers who wouldn't want to break their wage structure by taking on old players who make twice as much as their star players. It's not like Real Madrid or Chelsea are going to buy these guys.

Originally Posted by Rick

What team that would want Dida could afford his wages? There lies the problem. It's easy to say Milan should sell him and a few other of the old guys, but the only teams that might be interested would be mid-table clubs and relegation strugglers who wouldn't want to break their wage structure by taking on old players who make twice as much as their star players. It's not like Real Madrid or Chelsea are going to buy these guys.

Well then guys like Dida and Seedorf or whoever should have the decency to accept a wage cut. After all they are well over 30 and entering/have entered the twilight of their careers.

I don't like singling Dida out because that is unfair. There are several guilty of picking up paychecks and not pulling their weight. To treat your job as a sinecure is repugnant in my opinion.

I do not know we'll see hopefully we are not done

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Well then guys like Dida and Seedorf or whoever should have the decency to accept a wage cut. After all they are well over 30 and entering/have entered the twilight of their careers.

I don't like singling Dida out because that is unfair. There are several guilty of picking up paychecks and not pulling their weight. To treat your job as a sinecure is repugnant in my opinion.

Again, that's easy to say, but would you want to cut your wages in half just so the company you've been working for can get rid of you? I doubt it. Maybe Milan wasn't thinking far enough ahead when they signed these guys to the contracts they did, but the players did sign their contracts in good faith with every expectation of serving them out. Milan is obligated -- both legally and morally -- to honoring those contracts. As I said a few pages back, the situation is what it is and it's something that Milan has to live with over the next couple of years.

Sevilla Striker Luis Fabiano's Agent: Milan, Stop Fooling Us Around
The player's agent has told Milan to make a better bid or forget the striker...


Luis Fabiano's agent, Jose Fuentes, is applying the pressure on Milan to offer what Sevilla want for the striker.

The Rossoneri have been in constant talks with the Spanish club, and with Rio and Stellar Group, who own a majority stake in the player. Figures have been the problem for the Italian side as they have been unwilling to meet the hitman's price tag. A game of cat and mouse has ensued and reports claim the only concrete offer Milan have made is €14 million, a far cry from the €20m asking fee.

Fuentes is becoming fed up of the Rossoneri's attitude, feeling their bids do not reflect a serious interest in his client.

"I feel as if I am being taken for a ride. It's not possible that one of the biggest clubs in the world allow the player to slip through their fingers for only a few million," Fuentes told Il Corriere Dello Sport.

"I am disappointed. His price is around €20m, but Sevilla could accept around €17m. The player is back from holiday on Tuesday and Sevilla want to know what Milan's intentions are."

Fuentes is not the only one frustrated with the Italians. Rojiblancos president Jose Maria Del Nido suggested the Rossoneri's initial offer was ridiculous.

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The thing is that we cant even fool anyone anymore..

I am really curious which offer is the better one?
40+etoo+hleb or 93mil??
i mean which offer should be considered as the highest of all time?if the first one is accepted by inter..

what a gr8 deal for inter??what a proper way to sell a player(especcially your best one),we seem so amateurs when i read such offers..it really looks we could get much more for kaka,but we must have tried a lot "to get rid" of him(and his "subs" like gorky)..and above all we seem so unable and unwilling to keep up with other teams(juve inter)..

the worse part is that i m getting used to it,and thats what we should never do..

Originally Posted by Rick

Again, that's easy to say, but would you want to cut your wages in half just so the company you've been working for can get rid of you? I doubt it. Maybe Milan wasn't thinking far enough ahead when they signed these guys to the contracts they did, but the players did sign their contracts in good faith with every expectation of serving them out. Milan is obligated -- both legally and morally -- to honoring those contracts. As I said a few pages back, the situation is what it is and it's something that Milan has to live with over the next couple of years.

If I wasn't doing work, then yes. I have enough self-respect to feel ashamed at bringing home an undeserved paycheck. I would look for employment elsewhere. Many players do it when they reach a certain age. Dida,Seedorf, and to an extent Sheva lack the moral courage to accept that they are resting on past laurels. Milan lack the shrewdness not to agree to lucrative contracts.

Further, as a professional, I would actually want to ply my trade, not sit on the sidelines (Dida) or conduct myself as if everything was a backbreaking chore (Seedorf).

Milan is as legally obligated to honour the contracts as the players are. The morally bit is tricky...

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

If I wasn't doing work, then yes. I have enough self-respect to feel ashamed at bringing home an undeserved paycheck.

Further, as a professional, I would want to actually ply my trade, not sit on the sidelines (Dida) or conduct myself as if everything was a backbreaking chore (Seedorf).

Milan is as legally obligated to honour the contract as the players are. The morally bit is tricky...

Every backup goalkeeper in the world sits on the sidelines waiting for an opportunity. Why should Dida be any different? In fact, when Abiatti went down, it was a good thing somebody was there to step in and play. And Seedorf is still a capable player and can be a valuable asset to the team. Do you think this is something that's unique to Milan? Players all over the world in every sport get older and become less than they once were, but they continue to draw salaries based on their performance in previous years. And who is to say they don't deserve it? I doubt you complain too much when the players are young and begin playing at a level far above their pay grade. Most of these older guys have given valuable service to Milan in the past and they deserve some respect.

Originally Posted by Rick

Every backup goalkeeper in the world sits on the sidelines waiting for an opportunity. Why should Dida be any different? In fact, when Abiatti went down, it was a good thing somebody was there to step in and play. And Seedorf is still a capable player and can be a valuable asset to the team. Do you think this is something that's unique to Milan? Players all over the world in every sport get older and become less than they once were, but they continue to draw salaries based on their performance in previous years. And who is to say they don't deserve it? I doubt you complain too much when the players are young and begin playing at a level far above their pay grade. Most of these older guys have given valuable service to Milan in the past and they deserve some respect.

Yes but few goalkeepers get injured sitting on the sidelines .

Anyway, my point was as professionals we all want to grow. Dida lost his starting position after a series of high profile blunders. We are all human, these things happen.

But as such, at the age of 36, surely he must know that to win his place back into a team that has bought Abbiati as a replacement will be nigh impossible.

At least Dida made mistakes, of which he is contrite. What is Seedorf's excuse for purposefully walking? Fatigue? I don't know--complacency must figure into it. And I think that is the problem with Pirlo also.

Zenit swoop for Rosina Saturday 18 July, 2009

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Alessandro Rosina is expected to leave Italy after receiving multi-million pound contract offers from Zenit and Stuttgart.

The trequartista was a fan favourite, but Torino’s relegation saw the relationship sour and this week he was involved in a shouting match with hecklers during a training session.


It is now reported in ‘Tuttosport’ that Zenit St Petersburg have offered a lucrative four-year contract to tempt him to Russia.


The talks are already on, but Toro are demanding £7m compared to the £5.5m that Zenit have proposed so far.


The buy-out clause on his contract is £12.5m, but there are other sides also interested in Rosina’s services.


Stuttgart hope to bring him to the Bundesliga, while clubs in England have been linked with the shaven-headed star nicknamed Rosinaldo.




For all those who thought we should of signed him looks like he is gone ,
I do believe if MGT have a realistic target of top 4 , 3rd a bonus and the quarter finals of the CL at best and I think a Kaka'less Milan are capable of this and Mgt know that so signings are looking more and more like a no no .

I am optomistic but for those who say the mercato is not over even ye guys have to admit its almost 2 months since Kaka and Gourcuff left with not a single significant signing, that could add to our aging slow squad.

Originally Posted by mrki

It has become a circus aof a few cheep old people ( two of them ). Luis Fabiano is worth more then 14mln. And now Milan will go on COURT with Sevilla becouse RIO ( the company that owes 65% of the player ) also will sue Sevilla for now wanting to negotiate.

You know when will next player transfer from Sevilla to Milan? In 240 years...

We sold KAka' for nothing as it looks like now. Inter will change for Eto'o who is simply brilliant and Hleb who is an excellent player plus money.

But we didnt exchange becouse you cant put players in bank and pay for stuff with them. Fact is this, when Milan was selling Kaka' Berlusconi said we'll invest Kaka' money into a "new circle" this summer. That was obviousely bull****.

Lets create some more friendlies with serie d teams so that fat senile scum can jeer Ronaldinho who plays against players who are scared to look at him.

To comment on Lucio: he is a brilliant player, twice the player Thiago will ever be. Captain of Brasil and is 31 years old. Which means he still has 3 years of 100% tempo football most likely, looking at him phisical construction and condicion.

EDIT:

How do some of you people have nerves to talk about Trezeguet - Oddo whitch. Trez is one of the best no.9 players in the world and can play for any club in Europe, he is abcolute class. Oddo is utter **** fullback who obviousely is in a rank of clubs like Torino, Panathinaikos etc.

To make Trez---Oddo swap you need to be not only dead drunk but also unexplainably stupid and maybe even blind.

+1

Mrki: funny how they turned on Kaka even though Berlu himself says that he HAD TO SELL HIM TO BALANCE HIS (imagineary) BOOKS. Kaka was always religious and attributed everything he did to god....but all of a sudden he's a "kook" (not that I agree with his wife's supremely idiotic statements mind you)

Originally Posted by mrki

To make Trez---Oddo swap you need to be not only dead drunk but also unexplainably stupid and maybe even blind.

That is exactly why I like the deal. The deal is obviously in our favor.
Hopefully Cobolli Gigli isnt too bright and will give us this deal.

Not even going to comment on Milan's transfer anymore as thats useless.

As for having players like Dida and Seedorf. Well, ofcourse the MGT made a huge mistake by signing them to great long deals. But like you all said, nobody wants them and thats Milan's problem. And pls don't pretend they are useful players that worth their wages, as they are not. Maybe they can perform here and there but they definitely not worth what they are getting paid.

As for the Tevez example Dev. Put it this way, let say the debt rule is in full effect. Inter is running in debt and cannot sign anyone unless they sell some of their star players. However, Morratti or one of his friends, signed CR7 for like 80mil, but then loan him to Inter for 5mil a year. That way Inter can get CR7 for just 5mil a year instead of paying 80mil transfer fees+full wages.

OFFICIAL: Lyon sign Cissokho.

Thanks Galliani and Berlusconi. You guys are the best .

He passed a medical at a top European club, and we have managed to piss off Porto.

Congratulations B and G. Just when it seems things can't get worse, they do!

Lyon have taken the Benzema money and have strengthened.

B and G, this is how a big club should behave. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.