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Old 19-07-2009, 07:50   #8206

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Well, if there is a clause in the Luis contract with Seville. Then Milan has every right to take that to court. THats not really a dirty trick. It is in the contract. Just like how Milan lost Gourcuff for 15mil instead of 25mil. It was in the contract.

But the article is right about Milan not spending any money at all and not worthy of calling themselves a big club.
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Old 19-07-2009, 07:51   #8207

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Of course Milan management is partially responsible for the fabiano incident, if you were to analyse Berlusconi business tactics you would discover he is one the biggest crooks of all time. Galliani probably encouraging the situation as well hoping that he can use the dispute to get a larger discount on the player. there is no question that Milan management is reasonsible we are the only party to benefit from a legal dispute between the parties. In any case it up to Milan to end this by offering Sevilla 16 million euros for the player which is pretty reasonable for a player like luis. Trust me guys spending the extra cash to end the situation is much better than getting caught up in the legal **** storm that will arise from this dispute.

The damage to Milan reputation is more considerable than a 5 million million barrier between the clubs, do you guys really expect that anyone would want to do business with Milan after we caused such fiction within the clubs after pursing their players. It is likely that if this dispute goes to court Sevilla will never do business with Milan again period unless we offer ridiculous amounts of money for the players on offer, plus i am pretty sure that in future Porto will be reluctant to do business with Milan after the Cissokho disaster.

Milan management have been consistent in spending as little cash as possible over this transfer window by all rights the 80 million euros should have been used to bring in 3 new defenders 1 midfield player 1 striker and a goalkeeper rather than robbing Sevilla of Fabiano and clearing the managements debts.
To be honest, I don't think any clubs want to do business with Galli period.
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Old 19-07-2009, 07:51   #8208

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And before Nesta other players were bought which is not the case this summer.
Yes, Seedorf was signed in July (which, if I'm not mistaken, is the month we're in now). The other signings were Rivaldo (who was with Milan for one year and played in 22 games), Dario Simic (the Oddo of his time), Jon Dahl Tomasson (who scored 22 goals in three seasons), Samuele Dalla Bona (who played four games for Milan), Leonardo (who was re-signed at the age of 33 so he could play one game and finish his career as a Milan player) and Marco Borriello (who was 20 and spent most of the next several years out on loan before being sold to Genoa -- and then bought back!).

So without the last-minute Nesta signing, 2002 would hardly have been considered a banner transfer season for Milan.

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LUIS FABIANO IS NO RISK - LEONARDO

AC Milan coach Leonardo insists signing Sevilla striker Luis Fabiano would not be a gamble for the Rossoneri.

The Brazil international is Milan's top transfer target but their 14 million euro bid was rejected out of hand by the Spanish club last week.

Leonardo is confident they will get their man and believes he will prove to be a good signing for the Serie A giants.

"Luis Fabiano is without doubt a good player," he told the club website, www.acmilan.com. "He is the striker of the Brazilian national team and, like all deals, it has to run its course.

"I don't think you can call him a gamble for our league, because he could have already been mature at 23 years old.

"What he's lacked is a great club.

"Milan don't turn to the transfer market just to buy a name, if we do, it's because we need him.

"We have a good squad and we shouldn't be in a rush."

Milan are currently on pre-season tour in America where they will face David Beckham's Los Angeles Galaxy tomorrow.

Speculation is rife that Beckham will return to Milan in January after impressing during a six-month loan spell last season.

The England midfielder went to visit his former team-mates at their LA training ground and Leonardo admits there is a very real possibility he will be back at the San Siro soon.

"David had and has a good rapport with all of us,'the Milan boss added. "He helped us so much when he wore our shirt.

"Moreover, he is a good person and also the very fact that he came here to see us proves how much he feels for us.

"It was a really nice gesture.

"David is without doubt a very intelligent player and I don't think there is anything strange to say that he could come back into my plans, because he can fit into any system."
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Old 19-07-2009, 08:16   #8209

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Nice discussions you guys,some hard words(take it easy boban and mrki) but thats how i like it.Now lets just take a break today and focus on our game VS Galaxy instead!To bad i cant watch it as it will start way to late.
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Old 19-07-2009, 10:26   #8210

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New Lyon Signing Cissokho Slams 'Bad Experience' With Milan

The 21-year-old claims his transfer to Italy failed because of economic reasons and he says he is happy to be playing in Ligue 1...
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Lyon left-back Aly Cissokho is pleased to have joined his new team from Porto, after his move to Milan failed earlier in the summer. The starlet did, however, express disappointment towards the Serie A giants.

"It was an awful story that I lived through, it was a bad experience," he explained, according to tuttomercatoweb.

Everything looked in order, but Milan then announced that the player had failed his medical because of a problem with his teeth and the move broke down. However, the defender has suggested that the problem was not physical but financial in nature.

"Sometimes in football, problems arise for economic reasons, but now I am at Lyon, a club that I immediately agreed to join," said Cissokho.

The French giants signed the former Vitoria Setubal player for €15 million, the same price as the proposed deal with the Rossoneri.

Another Milan target, Luis Fabiano, recently made similar statements, saying he was 'taken for a ride' by the Italian club, who at one point looked sure to sign him from Sevilla.


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I just want to concentrate on the match but this article seems disturbing.
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Old 19-07-2009, 10:33   #8211

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This is real proof of how ridiculous you people really are. Let's take your car dealership analogy from above. Let's turn this on you. You mean to tell me that if you went to purchase a car which LEGALLY you can get for 5000, you would pay 13000?? Or would you legally pursue to get it at 5000?? Who the hell cares if i'm never welcomed at that dealership again, THERE ARE TONS AROUND!!

Dont be ridiculous people. I suggest everyone find a hobby until the end of August and watch to see what happens. IF they dont make any true, good signings, I will be just as upset as everyone. But to say that we should jump at players just to appease fans is STUPID. Because guess what, that's what you guys are looking for. A rushed signing that does not make economic sense just to appease everyone.

Why doesn't everyone reach back in their brains and remember the date when Nesta signed. Sit back and relax people.

Im not saying that I want signings on the 1st of june but the fact is and the sooner you realise it Milan has been (from a transfer point of view) horribly mismanaged for at least well honestly about 5 years and if you fail to see what is in front of your eys then you are a fool , I follow Milan always have always will but the name of the club is been dragged through the mud and for what because Silvio Berlusconi is an OAP out of touch who dosn't have a clue anymore , and the fact is the offered less for Dzeko , offered nothing for Huntelaar and tried to go back on a deal for Cissokho .

So if you don't want to read my whole post and see that MGT have on several occations offered below the value of a player then Il post for you if your going to be smart at least do it from an angle where you are right....have a nice day bye
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Old 19-07-2009, 11:13   #8212

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New Lyon Signing Cissokho Slams 'Bad Experience' With Milan

The 21-year-old claims his transfer to Italy failed because of economic reasons and he says he is happy to be playing in Ligue 1...
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Lyon left-back Aly Cissokho is pleased to have joined his new team from Porto, after his move to Milan failed earlier in the summer. The starlet did, however, express disappointment towards the Serie A giants.

"It was an awful story that I lived through, it was a bad experience," he explained, according to tuttomercatoweb.

Everything looked in order, but Milan then announced that the player had failed his medical because of a problem with his teeth and the move broke down. However, the defender has suggested that the problem was not physical but financial in nature.

"Sometimes in football, problems arise for economic reasons, but now I am at Lyon, a club that I immediately agreed to join," said Cissokho.

The French giants signed the former Vitoria Setubal player for €15 million, the same price as the proposed deal with the Rossoneri.

Another Milan target, Luis Fabiano, recently made similar statements, saying he was 'taken for a ride' by the Italian club, who at one point looked sure to sign him from Sevilla.


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I just want to concentrate on the match but this article seems disturbing.
It is disturbing, and I am glad you acknowledge it.

It shows our callousness and lack of self-respect in two ways. First, that we circulated around the football world that Cissokho has a medical problem, a potentially devastating canard that could have ruined the player's career. Secondly, our wretched owner is willing to sink to any depth to pay less money.

You know when Deportivo beat us 4-0, or Juve thrashed us, or when Istanbul happened, my love for my team grew. I felt pain, but I wore my Milan jersey with beaming pride.

Right now, I am ashamed not at the colours, but at the people who have become the face of my club. A licentious adulterer who cynically exploits Milan for political gain and his yes-man who would be willing to lick his boots if it meant more money.

This is a scandal that should embarrass us.
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Old 19-07-2009, 11:15   #8213

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It is disturbing, and I am glad you acknowledge it.

It shows our callousness and lack of self-respect in two ways. First, that we circulated around the football world that Cissokho has a medical problem, a potentially devastating canard that could have ruined the player's career. Secondly, our wretched owner is willing to sink to any depth to pay less money.

You know when Deportivo beat us 4-0, or Juve thrashed us, or when Istanbul happened, my love for my team grew. I felt pain, but I wore my Milan jersey with beaming pride.

Right now, I am ashamed not at the colours, but at the people who have become the face of my club. A licentious adulterer who cynically exploits Milan for political gain and his yes-man who would be willing to lick his boots if it meant more money.

This is a scandal that should embarrass us.
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Old 19-07-2009, 11:17   #8214

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cant berlu just sell the club to an arabic owner or someone else _ i dont think that galliani has actually been that bad' its the devil behind the scenes berlu _ i wish he would just go i cant stand to see milan like this anymore
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Old 19-07-2009, 11:36   #8215

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Report: Milan Consider Bid For Roma Ace Mirko Vucinic

The Rossoneri could offer €16m plus Ignazio Abate for the Montenegrin striker, if the deal to bring Fabiano to the San Siro falls through...

Negotiations between Milan and Sevilla over Brazilian international hitman Luis Fabiano have stalled this week, after Jose Maria Del Nido, the President of the Spanish club, dismissed the Rossoneri's €14million bid for the striker as ‘ridiculous’.

Even though talks are expected to resume next week, Sky Sport Italia reports that Milan general manager Adriano Galliani could turn back to Roma striker Mirko Vucinic.

Galliani had apparently sounded out the Giallorossi over the availability of the 25-year-old earlier this month, before lodging a formal offer for Fabiano.

And, it is suggested that the Diavoli are prepared to put €16m plus the services of 22-year-old winger Ignazio Abate on Roma’s table in order to lure the Montenegrin international to the San Siro.

However, Vucinic is also a target for English clubs Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea, with press reports claiming the Blues are ready to splash out €25m to bring the striker to London.

Vince Masiello, Goal.com
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Who said we are not interested in great players! Haha! This is getting sick.
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Old 19-07-2009, 11:37   #8216

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Berlusconi will have to get rid of the team eventually with his family intent on getting rid of the club plus he isn't getting any younger sooner or later he is going to get seriously ill or die maybe suffocating on a 18 year old girls bra strap. Berlusconi and his family have crossed too many ethical boundaries with the fans i don't think the situation is retrievable until Milan starts winning again even than Berlusconi will be hated by a large segment of milan fans. This summer could more significant than any of us realised it really could be the beginning of the end for our patron relationship with Milan. If only Maldini had the spare cash to buy and fund Milan if he was in charge of the team i would never question any decision made because he has such a connection with the fans and the team.

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Old 19-07-2009, 11:58   #8217

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Report: Milan Consider Bid For Roma Ace Mirko Vucinic

The Rossoneri could offer €16m plus Ignazio Abate for the Montenegrin striker, if the deal to bring Fabiano to the San Siro falls through...

Negotiations between Milan and Sevilla over Brazilian international hitman Luis Fabiano have stalled this week, after Jose Maria Del Nido, the President of the Spanish club, dismissed the Rossoneri's €14million bid for the striker as ‘ridiculous’.

Even though talks are expected to resume next week, Sky Sport Italia reports that Milan general manager Adriano Galliani could turn back to Roma striker Mirko Vucinic.

Galliani had apparently sounded out the Giallorossi over the availability of the 25-year-old earlier this month, before lodging a formal offer for Fabiano.

And, it is suggested that the Diavoli are prepared to put €16m plus the services of 22-year-old winger Ignazio Abate on Roma’s table in order to lure the Montenegrin international to the San Siro.

However, Vucinic is also a target for English clubs Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea, with press reports claiming the Blues are ready to splash out €25m to bring the striker to London.

Vince Masiello, Goal.com
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Who said we are not interested in great players! Haha! This is getting sick.

Ive said before he is not what we need an 8 goal a season man who isnt worth the money if we got Dzeko and then signed him with Pato and Borriello + Pippo he would be welcome but not just him on his own id prefer Fab.
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Old 19-07-2009, 12:00   #8218

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cant berlu just sell the club to an arabic owner or someone else _ i dont think that galliani has actually been that bad' its the devil behind the scenes berlu _ i wish he would just go i cant stand to see milan like this anymore
I'd prefer Milan to stay italian owned. I'd rather have transfer summers like this instead of the club becoming another Man City
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Old 19-07-2009, 12:13   #8219

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I'd prefer Milan to stay italian owned. I'd rather have transfer summers like this instead of the club becoming another Man City
I wonder how true the rumours were of michele ferrero "Mr Nutella" taking over the club..

Our other hope is that Milan will get handed over to Belusconis wife as part of the divorse settlement.. jk
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Old 19-07-2009, 12:15   #8220

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I TOTALLY agree with Iggy,i rather have a team with the players available now and give our high-rated youngsters a chance like Strasser and Albertazzi then being owned by some crazy people who will ship in 6 WC players a year and sending real Milan players like Gatusso and Nesta to the bench or away,we need to change one step at the time and not replacing half of the team with new ones like many people suggest
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