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Old 21-07-2009, 14:02   #8386

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Hasan the Gazzetta report is not making any sense,if Inter will build their own stadium and Juve get a bigger one then thats just fine for them,we will still have the San Siro,one of the biggest and most famouse club in the world,Inter having a own stadium will make us bigger because now we dont have to share it anymore with them,we have it all for ourselves.

And Inter,Juve are focusing on youngsters i know that,we werent under Carlo because Carlo didnt give chances to the younger players,he preffered veterans because he knew what he could expect from them i think,but now with Leo Milan also pays attention to their youngsters,Strasser,Albertazzi,Abate,Di Gennaro,Paloschi,they will al get their chance to shine.

So we are not behind Inter nor Juve,only in terms of mercato's they are doing better.

dutchie milan pays around 12 mil a year for a the stadium. if we own a stadium it will make us bigger and if we own the stadium you will find us on the top as a financial point of view. just compare arsenal before and after the emirates stadium . arsenal is one of the richest clubs on planet. thats what own stadium means!
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Old 21-07-2009, 14:05   #8387

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we are really pathetic.

Kaka, Tevez, Ronaldo, Adebayor, Lucio, Cissokho, Zhirkov, Diego, Benzema...just to name a few names that changed clubs last month. You can probably add Robben, Huntelaar, Ibra, Eto'o, Fabiano to that mix in the next month.

And we are getting excited about Serie B striker.

That's rock bottom, man.Rock bottom.
don't worry stitch, you will get sneider before the dead line. plus a striker left back and a cb thats for sure
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Old 21-07-2009, 14:08   #8388

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Wolfsburg has apparently withdrawn their offer for Nilmar:

http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calcio...ferta-ritirata
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Old 21-07-2009, 14:10   #8389

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just compare arsenal before and after the emirates stadium . arsenal is one of the richest clubs on planet. thats what own stadium means!
Arsenal are hugely in debt , serviceable but in alot of debt nonetheless.
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Old 21-07-2009, 14:21   #8390

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And please stop saying its only july we'll get players in august because in june ye said its only we'll sign in july fact is AC Milan have no intention of spending the 80 million they made on transfers or any of the 262 million (according to deloite) that they made last year .
What makes you so sure they won't spend at least 20 or 30 million in August? Do you know something we don't?
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Old 21-07-2009, 14:56   #8391

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What makes you so sure they won't spend at least 20 or 30 million in August? Do you know something we don't?
Yes I do leopards don't change their spots , for years they have penny pinched which was good because we won alot and it was smart business , but as someone else said a Kaka and Flamini do not come along every year , the comments and offers and hiring of Leonardo as he is cheaper than a top coach ofcourse Im not saying he will be bad but Im thinking he will be a success he has a great mind for football.

So I am not expecting any good signings Onyewu not great an okay backup im not sure we'll see there might be a free signing but nothing that will add to the team, my god I hope Im made eat and vomit up my words.
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Old 21-07-2009, 15:42   #8392

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Wolfsburg has apparently withdrawn their offer for Nilmar:

http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calcio...ferta-ritirata

which consequently rules out our move for Dzeko
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Old 21-07-2009, 16:25   #8393

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BREAKING NEWS: Trezeguet's agent, Bronzetti and Galliani just had a meeting about Trezeguet over dinner.

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If this goes through (God willing), then I will be very happy. Trezeguet is a super striker, and I have always liked him.
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Old 21-07-2009, 16:37   #8394

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BREAKING NEWS: Trezeguet's agent, Bronzetti and Galliani just had a meeting about Trezeguet over dinner.

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If this goes through (God willing), then I will be very happy. Trezeguet is a super striker, and I have always liked him.
The guy could score goals in his sleep. I think it would be a great move for this year (and maybe a few years -- he could take Pippo's place as designated goalscorer ), then exercise that option in Dzeko's contract next summer. Meanwhile a bit more money would be available this summer for Hernanes or a left back or something.
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Old 21-07-2009, 16:58   #8395

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don't worry stitch, you will get sneider before the dead line. plus a striker left back and a cb thats for sure
I'm not worried. Who said I'm worried? I'm actually a happy Milan fan who loves his team full of great champions and our great and wise management
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Old 21-07-2009, 17:03   #8396

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A big reason why Milan wants to stay debt free is that the new television deals will have to be negotiated very soon, within the next year or so. That means that teams will have less income from the most consistent stream of revenue they have: TV and sponsorship rights.

Teams' income fluctuates from season to season, be that for Merchandise, ticket sales, or whether or not the team does well in the season (pushing the sales for aforementioned items up) and so when it comes to TV and sponsorship rights, its the most reliable income that a club has.

With so much debt, the debt load acceptable was calculated using a formula that presumed a certain level of income. Now that the world economy is going through this recession, people are buying less TV packages, buying less merchandise, buying less items (from potential sponsors) all affecting the balance sheet.

So, if you are leveraging your club against that debt, thinking that you will be able to maintain a certain level of income, then you are a poorly run club.

This will lead many clubs to start selling the easiest thing to sell: their players.

If Milan makes around 270 million, and one player costs, 20+ million, that is a huge percentage of your income. Then there are wages, and sure there were sales, but when did Berlu or Galli or ANYONE for that matter say that Kaka's sale would be towards direct investment into the club? It was to augment the 270 million made all ready.

The Champions League did hurt us, and hopefully Ronaldinho will be able to push us forward. I think that whatever supposed stinginess Milan shows this transfer period will probably reap dividends in the future. If nothing else, it will force more youth to play, which I hope will push these guys to play like other young players have before them.
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Old 21-07-2009, 17:09   #8397

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Then there are wages, and sure there were sales, but when did Berlu or Galli or ANYONE for that matter say that Kaka's sale would be towards direct investment into the club?
Several times.

Berlu: I will use that money and reinvest it in the team to make it stronger.

Galliani: It is not as if Kaka' will leave and no one will arrive. A striker will arrive. You will see.

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You take a lot of effort when you write your posts, which I, and a lot of other people, appreciate, but your points a few times have been factually incorrect.

They have been deliberately equivocal. On the one hand they say we have to balance our books, but on the other they have said that we will reinvest.

They think the average Milan supporter is a schmuck. To have such contempt for your own fans is discouraging and disgusting.

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Old 21-07-2009, 17:16   #8398

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Thank you, but I have tried and I cannot find a place where Milan said that Kaka's money was earmarked for transfers. All I can find is that that money was designed to service the club's debt.

I'm not doubting that Milan will spend, they have to get somebody, but I am having a tough time finding where it says that. Maybe its in non-English sources?
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Old 21-07-2009, 17:26   #8399

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BREAKING NEWS: Trezeguet's agent, Bronzetti and Galliani just had a meeting about Trezeguet over dinner.

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If this goes through (God willing), then I will be very happy. Trezeguet is a super striker, and I have always liked him.

I don't share your opinion, well not any more at least... We already have Pippo, we need someone like Dzeko/Eto'o methinks..
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Old 21-07-2009, 18:05   #8400

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As a businessmen i really can't understand the need for Milan to not spend any transfer revenue on news surely berlusconi realises that it will cost him several 100s of millions to re-establish the team. Even cash strapped Arsenal recognise the important of maintaining a core of successful players they knew if they didn't sign any new players in the winter transfer window that they would be out of champion league contention. The affect of this transfer policy is unparalleled i have seen droves of Milan fans are giving up on Milan and supporting Real or Juventus. with a weaker support base a loss of kaka related sponsorship money and a strong possibility of Milan missing out on champions league participation how the hell does this policy solve Milan financial problems.

I personally think that Berlusconi and his family are so removed from the situation they fail to manage the team properly and are making some fantastically poor decisions. If they are serious about instituting a future cost cutting policy we wouldn't aiming to buy trezeguet or toni this is ridiculous it sums up Milan most threatening problems namely the amount of expensive 30 year olds that we employ. if we sell any of these players Milan will make a loss, they will demand at least 4 millions a season in wages and will never adapt or develop their individual styles of play to quote a old saying old dogs don't learn new tricks. I think i am going to seek the advise of my old economics professor maybe he can shed light on this unbelievable policy.
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