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Old 23-07-2009, 05:22   #8551

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Gabriel,the fact that Seedorf is starting the games isnt a suprise and that doesnt mean Leo will give him a starting spot next season,Kalac started each time in our friendlies....but that doesnt mean anything.
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Old 23-07-2009, 05:24   #8552

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Actually I don't know about that. Dembele's a very good player and admittedly I like him. Physically as you said he's strong, and very skillful on the ball. In the last season he scored 19 in 23 games when he was used as the striker.
I've seen almost every game from dembele in the last 2 seasons, and I can guarantee you that he isnt a real goalscorer. also those numbers you mention are not correct.

his last 3seasons with AZ, his numbers:
33games - 6goals
33games - 4 goals
23games - 10 goals

for the belgian national team
17games - 4 goals


Dont get me wrong I would love to have him here, as he is VERY talented, but he isnt the goalscoring striker we want. If we sign him we should play him as right winger with pato as striker.

on a sidenote: this player reminds some people off Ibrahimovic. also someone highly technical but with difficultys to score... But zlatan learned it and is scoring more and more, maybe the same could happen with Dembele.
BUT he will also be expensive, 15-20m at least.
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Old 23-07-2009, 05:27   #8553

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Report: Juventus Reject David Trezeguet – Kakha Kaladze Swap With Milan
The Old Lady have snubbed Milan’s offer to release the Georgian defender in exchange for ‘Trezegol’.
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Yesterday, Milan boss Leonardo implicitly gave the club the green light to sign Juventus striker David Trezeguet by hailing the Frenchman’s "extraordinary" strike rate, but negotiations with the Bianconeri are struggling to take off.

Juve are reportedly willing to get rid of the 31-year-old, who earns €4.5million a year, but are demanding no less than €10m.

La Gazzetta dello Sport today claims that Milan have offered the services of Georgian centre-back Kakhaber Kaladze in part-exchange, but Juve have resoundingly turned down their proposal, asking the Rossoneri to instead include Marco Borriello in the deal.

This request prompted Milan chief executive Adriano Galliani to release a statement on the club’s official website yesterday, insisting that Borriello is not on the market.

Juventus’ refusal to accept Kaladze is most likely down to the fact that the Turin giants are set to bring in Uruguayan central defender Martin Caceres on loan from Barcelona. It is anticipated that they will have an option to make the transfer permanent for €10m next summer.

However, Juve sporting director Alessio Secco yesterday claimed that Trezeguet is not for sale and is still part of the club’s plans.

Vince Masiello, Goal.com


A direct swap? Is Milan mad. Now is the time to swap kala/oddo and Seedorf (who will replace Nedved) plus 6 million ofr Trezegeut. neither player is needed....
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Old 23-07-2009, 05:29   #8554

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I suggest to Galliani to have the right amount of resources organised beforehand, as well as the negotiational desire before entering discussion. As for the player himself, he is a rising talent and would be worth a 14 million euro bid....
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I've seen almost every game from dembele in the last 2 seasons, and I can guarantee you that he isnt a real goalscorer. also those numbers you mention are not correct.

his last 3seasons with AZ, his numbers:
33games - 6goals
33games - 4 goals
23games - 10 goals

for the belgian national team
17games - 4 goals


Dont get me wrong I would love to have him here, as he is VERY talented, but he isnt the goalscoring striker we want. If we sign him we should play him as right winger with pato as striker.



on a sidenote: this player reminds some people off Ibrahimovic. also someone highly technical but with difficultys to score... But zlatan learned it and is scoring more and more, maybe the same could happen with Dembele.
BUT he will also be expensive, 15-20m at least.
He is still young and can develop. Certainly no Hunterlaar of the Dutch League though.....
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Roma Want Barcelona-Bound Keirrison On Loan - Report
The Giallorossi want the Brazilian ace, who is likely to join Barcelona...
23 Jul 2009 10:26:33
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The young Brazilian is set to complete his move to the Camp Nou this week, but reports suggest he will be shipped out. Directors at Barcelona have decided the hitman will not be benched or play in the 'B' team, and thus a loan move to gain experience is likely.

Voices around Trigoria suggest the Giallorossi, who are looking for a forward, want to have a shot at landing him. Roma are willing to offer the youngster a regular starting place, allowing him to play at a consistently high level.

It is said the Blaugrana are pondering the Rome avenue as they have a good relationship with the Italian side. The news comes amid fresh reports that Mirko Vucinic is heading out of the club. The Montenegrin has been linked with Manchester United and Chelsea.

Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com

Roma are in financial trouble are they?! However, if they manage to keep Vucinic and a fit Totti, along with Kerrison, they boast a healthy attack that our defense will certainly struggle with. Nesta played great against Club America today though.... Hopefully he will be back!
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Old 23-07-2009, 05:56   #8557

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Anyway may I politely ask what the "match" sub-forum is for? It looks like everyone just throwing everything they wish to talk in this thread.

Apparently Trez's agent is being silent. http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/trans...-ac-milan-talk

And Abate denied Roma rumour, we may be a little bit relaxed. http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/trans...rom-roma-agent
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Old 23-07-2009, 06:22   #8558

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I still think Fabiano is the deadly striker needed.
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Old 23-07-2009, 06:28   #8559

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I've seen almost every game from dembele in the last 2 seasons, and I can guarantee you that he isnt a real goalscorer. also those numbers you mention are not correct.

his last 3seasons with AZ, his numbers:
33games - 6goals
33games - 4 goals
23games - 10 goals

for the belgian national team
17games - 4 goals


Dont get me wrong I would love to have him here, as he is VERY talented, but he isnt the goalscoring striker we want. If we sign him we should play him as right winger with pato as striker.

on a sidenote: this player reminds some people off Ibrahimovic. also someone highly technical but with difficultys to score... But zlatan learned it and is scoring more and more, maybe the same could happen with Dembele.
BUT he will also be expensive, 15-20m at least.
lol, well, a lesson in never to trust wiki's stats . Still, I think he could be good for us and has a lot of good qualities. I can understand the comparisons with Ibra, both tall and skillful players, but I think they play in different styles.
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I've seen almost every game from dembele in the last 2 seasons, and I can guarantee you that he isnt a real goalscorer. also those numbers you mention are not correct.

his last 3seasons with AZ, his numbers:
33games - 6goals
33games - 4 goals
23games - 10 goals

for the belgian national team
17games - 4 goals


Dont get me wrong I would love to have him here, as he is VERY talented, but he isnt the goalscoring striker we want. If we sign him we should play him as right winger with pato as striker.

on a sidenote: this player reminds some people off Ibrahimovic. also someone highly technical but with difficultys to score... But zlatan learned it and is scoring more and more, maybe the same could happen with Dembele.
BUT he will also be expensive, 15-20m at least.
I was just checking his statistics on ESPN Soccernet and it does seem he's learning to be more of a goalscorer. Those 10 goals last year came in 20 starts, which is a very good ratio (he didn't score in his three appearances as a late substitute). And he had eight goals for the Belgian NT ilast year. So it seems he does have the potential to develop into a real goalscorer like Ibra. I've only seen him a few times with the Belgian NT, but he does seem to have a lot of ability. Would playing him on the right with Pato in the middle be such a bad idea?
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According to Capo Ultra this Galliani-Bronzetti meeting was more than just about Luis Fabiano. Apparently it was also about Elano and Ederson (see video below). Capo, I've not read about this anywhere myself, could you provide a source please?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As_1s7CfnEc

I like Ederson, I've seen him for Lyon and must say he's pretty impressive.
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I was just checking his statistics on ESPN Soccernet and it does seem he's learning to be more of a goalscorer. Those 10 goals last year came in 20 starts, which is a very good ratio (he didn't score in his three appearances as a late substitute). And he had eight goals for the Belgian NT ilast year. So it seems he does have the potential to develop into a real goalscorer like Ibra. I've only seen him a few times with the Belgian NT, but he does seem to have a lot of ability. Would playing him on the right with Pato in the middle be such a bad idea?
no it isnt! In fact I'd love to see pato in the center, I dont see him as a winger. Thats why I was asking for a Giuseppe Rossi signing, someone who could play on the right. Pato is so much more dangerous in the center.
remember this: Pato played his best games for Milan as our Only central striker!! When Pippo came into the lineup last season he was our main front man, Pato was always falling back or went to the left or right, he scored far less those times! I think he should play in the center.

But offcourse thats what I think! but the management clearly wants another central striker, a big and strong one. they want pato on the wing it seems Thats why I excluded Dembele! But if it was up to me I would look for such a player, Rossi, Dembele, Cassano...


BTW these are his 10goals from last season:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPbOM3fJ11Y

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He is still young and can develop. Certainly no Hunterlaar of the Dutch League though.....
in potential I think Dembele is even better!! but different.
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Old 23-07-2009, 07:34   #8564

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As i live in Holland i could follow the actions from Moussa Dembele at a close range and i can tell you all that IF he comes it would be a world signing.

He is fast,very good at the ball but most importantly,you cant get the ball from his feet he is physiqually so strong for a youngster ist just not normal any more,watch the highlights of the Belgium-Spain game,even Puyol couldnt get the ball of his feet because of Dembele's body.

So even with his strength he is still very techniqually and fast,a perfect signing for the RW,and we dont have to buy a striker anymore because Pato would become CF.

I would love to see Dembele here in Milan,his workrate and shooting are also incredible,he really would be a great signing.

But i doubt he will come,for 2 reasons.

The rumour is from Tuttosport,they are saying allot of these things that are just crap,with how many players are we being linked nowadays?I dont think the Dembele-rumour is true.

If it was true....well then i dont think AZ and AC Milan would agree a deal,like Filipez said,the Belgium and Dutch people know his price: 15-20 million,and we dont even want to splash the cash on Luis Fabiano,so Galliani will NEVER pay more for Dembele then he would for Fabiano.
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As i live in Holland i could follow the actions from Moussa Dembele at a close range and i can tell you all that IF he comes it would be a world signing.

He is fast,very good at the ball but most importantly,you cant get the ball from his feet he is physiqually so strong for a youngster ist just not normal any more,watch the highlights of the Belgium-Spain game,even Puyol couldnt get the ball of his feet because of Dembele's body.

So even with his strength he is still very techniqually and fast,a perfect signing for the RW,and we dont have to buy a striker anymore because Pato would become CF.

I would love to see Dembele here in Milan,his workrate and shooting are also incredible,he really would be a great signing.

But i doubt he will come,for 2 reasons.

The rumour is from Tuttosport,they are saying allot of these things that are just crap,with how many players are we being linked nowadays?I dont think the Dembele-rumour is true.

If it was true....well then i dont think AZ and AC Milan would agree a deal,like Filipez said,the Belgium and Dutch people know his price: 15-20 million,and we dont even want to splash the cash on Luis Fabiano,so Galliani will NEVER pay more for Dembele then he would for Fabiano
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Agreed.

Tuttosport is not reliable at all. If you go into a bar anywhere in Italy, apart from Turin (Tuttosport is from there), you will notice that it is always untouched, while everybody is trying to get to La Gazzetta Dello Sport, or possibly il Corriere Dello Sport. La Gazzetta is the most reliable, although in recent years it has lost some of its class and is becoming more 'tabloid' like.

About us geting Dembele.... his price is way too high (for our standards). It aint gonna happen.
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