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Old 29-07-2009, 06:42   #9061

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I say that because for me, you get experience by winning, not by playing ... and it's there that the more experienced players can help the younger ones (who are maybe better than them but less experienced).

Look at Ibrahimovic, the guy is one of the most talented players in the world, but he played for a team that hasn't win CL for decades, and so, look at the way he played in CL with Inter ...
Now, in Barcelona, he will probably be more decisive in CL than with Inter because his team-mates are more experienced.
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Old 29-07-2009, 06:54   #9062

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So dru, if Rick is a "shallow fan" does that make u a "deep" fan?

And if so, does it make u a "better" fan?

And how is depth measured exactly?

I used to go on about fans vs phans....but on reflection, its really more of an imposition/creation of division than anything else.

"United we stand, divided we fall" I believe is the phrase.

As to Leo "standing up" to Berlu...that is all semantics, and IMO is all a load of tripe....those 3 kno exactly what's going on, and are just playing mind games thru the media.

My question here to all is: Was Berlu talking about his girls, or actual players w/ the whole U23 issue?
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Old 29-07-2009, 07:11   #9063

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You get more experience from losing that you do from winning if you reflect correctly.

I tinhk in Berlu world U23 means more players for Primavera, maybe one 22 unknown for 1st team and that's it.

He no longer cares. Simple as that. Sell the club before the future is sold, and the past tainted.
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Old 29-07-2009, 07:14   #9064

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Berlu probably talked about girls: " they all need to be under 23! "

Leonardo says that Dzeko and Cissokho were under 23... But as Warro says, he knows what is happening. Galliani knows Leo will not quit, he just got hired etc.

All in all we have a team for 3rd-4th place and that is a result of Berlusconi's money grabbing plans. It will go on and on, we'll start with Pato next year most likely.

I dont know which players are now in the mercato available... How Galliani does his job is pathetic and comical.
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Old 29-07-2009, 08:35   #9065

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Thats a good question about players or girls. I guess we will find out sooner or later.
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Old 29-07-2009, 09:17   #9066

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Thats a good question about players or girls. I guess we will find out sooner or later.
At least he's willing to pay for the girls.....
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Old 29-07-2009, 09:55   #9067

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ACtually from the reports I had been reading, it is the fact that he did not pay them that got these parties expose to public. As these girls are demanding their payment while Berlu ain't paying them.
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Old 29-07-2009, 10:00   #9068

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Now we are starting to gather reject players from top clubs.....it makes me so sad.
Mrki said it alright...it's like we're becoming a mediocre club.
Even Fiorentina, Palermo and such look like one class above us

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don't worry about "reject players" Inter rejected Pirlo, and we got him for practically nothing and the same thing with Seedorf from Real. Those have been some of our most important players in the past 5-10 years, and they were rejects.
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Old 29-07-2009, 10:05   #9069

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I probably shouldn't be asking here, but I'm tired and don't really want to start a topic.

Is anyone gonna watch the friendly against Bayern tonight?
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Old 29-07-2009, 10:07   #9070

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So dru, if Rick is a "shallow fan" does that make u a "deep" fan?

And if so, does it make u a "better" fan?

And how is depth measured exactly?

I used to go on about fans vs phans....but on reflection, its really more of an imposition/creation of division than anything else.

"United we stand, divided we fall" I believe is the phrase.

As to Leo "standing up" to Berlu...that is all semantics, and IMO is all a load of tripe....those 3 kno exactly what's going on, and are just playing mind games thru the media.

My question here to all is: Was Berlu talking about his girls, or actual players w/ the whole U23 issue?
Quite simply yes. If something doesn't affect one's emotions then it doesn't affect one deeply. It's not rocket science. I have invested a lot of time, money and an ungodly amount of emotion to this team. I was also coming to the US for our preseason tour this year but i'm not going to base my vacation on this crap team atm because my entire trip would be ruined because watching us atm is depressing. I shall also boycott the buying of milan shirts if Pato is sold (i'll still wear my Pato jersey). Because i refuse to support that crook in robbing me of my money. I am tremendously annoyed by people whose posts all reek of the sentiment to 'relax everything's great with us' when we're clearly in trouble. These people aslo have the audacity to mock genuine fans who express concern about the direction our great team is heading by labelling us appabsf mongers, alarmists or worse fake. I don't care if we go down to seriez i'll still support milan. What i won't support is dishonesty and corruption.
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Old 29-07-2009, 10:08   #9071

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Actually Pirlo was not a reject, Inter at that time just did not have room for him, as they already have Recoba, Veiri, Ventola, Zamarano, Ronaldo not sure about Salas, and Morfeo as I don't remember when exactly did they played for Inter. Anyhow, if Pirlo did not suggested to play as a DM, he probably would never even play for MIlan.

As for Seedorf, he has a rep that he will only play well for his team for about two yrs and then he will lose interest. Interesting thing is that Inter is the only team that Seedorf did not win anything. One more thing, Seedorf was being a b*t*h at Inter and Inter was trying to offload him.

Lastly, Milan never payed for Pirlo or Seedorf, they exchanged players for them. Although Coco was suppose to be the next great FB, he was asking for a transfer as he wants a better contract.

To me getting Elano is like getting RO a few years back, just someone the MGT hopes will do well and shut the fans up rather than a plan signing.

Just read the Cecarces is going to Juve, does that mean Santacroce is available to come to Milan now?
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Old 29-07-2009, 11:38   #9072

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I'm sorry guys but I haven't been following latest news about Galliani or Braida lately. Where are they? Last time I checked, Braida was in Brazil talking about Hernanes (has 8 million price tag?) and/or Santos......

Anyone?
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Old 29-07-2009, 11:44   #9073

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on the rumours, nothing serious so far I'm afraid...
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Old 29-07-2009, 11:52   #9074

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Quite simply yes. If something doesn't affect one's emotions then it doesn't affect one deeply. It's not rocket science. I have invested a lot of time, money and an ungodly amount of emotion to this team. I was also coming to the US for our preseason tour this year but i'm not going to base my vacation on this crap team atm because my entire trip would be ruined because watching us atm is depressing. I shall also boycott the buying of milan shirts if Pato is sold (i'll still wear my Pato jersey). Because i refuse to support that crook in robbing me of my money. I am tremendously annoyed by people whose posts all reek of the sentiment to 'relax everything's great with us' when we're clearly in trouble. These people aslo have the audacity to mock genuine fans who express concern about the direction our great team is heading by labelling us appabsf mongers, alarmists or worse fake. I don't care if we go down to seriez i'll still support milan. What i won't support is dishonesty and corruption.
Sorry to interrupt but did you just called milan crap ? i am really standing powerless against a fan whose calling his team crap. and calling others impatient, fake ,glory hunters ..... etc you name it .
off course when Milan lose we feel horrible and when management does not work the way they should we get mad but to be honest when our team is in crisis like right now we stand side by side and we hope for things to change and get better. there are things we fan don't know because we are not supposed to know but that does not hide the truth about Milan being in trouble and they are struggling financially. after all this team is owned by one man. this man brought many trophies and have been drawing smile on the faces of millions. we have been there in good times and surely we are gonna be there in hard times.
forza milan .

p.s the red and black is meant for milan not pato, kaka, sheva, and pirlo or any one else buying the shirt is staying true to your colors not your favorite player. man stop hating. i am sure in 1908 Milan threw away all the crap players and fans to establish something called internazionale, any crap fan who feel milan is a crap team is welcome to join them. sorry for the harsh words but Milan ain't crap. the only crap and creepy things are the eyes and hands of the poster.
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Old 29-07-2009, 11:52   #9075

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As a reference to the "signature" in your last post...

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