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Old 30-07-2009, 10:01   #9196

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Eurosport is showing Euro U19 championship.
Semifinals are on today...........maybe Berlu is somewhere near and keeping a close eye on some of the youngsters
Is it the women teams?
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Old 30-07-2009, 10:08   #9197

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LOL well actually Eurosport did show women tournament a few days earlier
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Old 30-07-2009, 10:15   #9198

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think about it genius do you want milan to become another leeds united or lazio fiorentina?, before you go off being sarcastic do some research and talk to individuals from italy, genoa,roma,fiorentina,napoli who tell you how everything is so expensive in italy, do you want milan to collapse and start from scratch i mean Serie C? because thats a very high possibility considering the way the world is at the moment, Italy isnt the United States Espana England where you can just shell out money, with no re procussion, before you go off mouthing why can't we throw money around? because we dont know if the economic crisis will get worst, honestly do you believe that 85 million euro's will guarantee milan a CL and a Scudetto and a team like we had in 2000 to last till 07? be smart i know thats hard but just try i beleive in you
Wow, talk about being biased. You can talk trash about the majority of the forum and I could not be a sarcastic about what you said? Whatever, man, that is not important. But keep in mind that, if you use a rude tone in your writing, people are allowed to fight back.

Here is the real issue. I understand that you do not wish milan to become the next leeds, lazio or parma, but you seem to be missing one very important aspect of the issue here. Those teams you mentioned were not actual superpowers and stretched themselves far too thin financially to compete with the big boys in europe. The result was that they doomed themselves as they could not keep up with the constant greater revenue inflow of the major powerhouse teams. Milan, on the other hand, is a powerhouse team, or at least was. They are at least in the top 10 in terms of team revenue in the world. That means, with proper management, they can utilize their high income level to at least compete with the other powerhouse teams rather than acting like a Serie B team in the market. When the majority of the powerhouse teams run in red, there is no reason or excuse for milan to go off talking about how they are smarter than everyone else and wants to balance the books at all cost. The fact is, pro soccer as a sport has issues because the only way to win is by running in red all the time, so don't hate the players, hate the game. This is how professional soccer teams have to do to stay competitive and there is nothing milan can do to change it no matter how much you believe so.

As far as asking Italians goes, it just so happened that I recently went on a trip to Italy. And all I can tell you is, though prices there aren't cheap, they are not that much worse than Switzerland and France (the other two countries I went to). You can sit there and cry all you want, but the fact still remains that Inter and Juve are doing a hell of a good job in the market in the exact same financial atmosphere. So, don't go around and act like everybody else is crazy and you are the only rational one, because you might have more knowledge than everybody else (or you don't, i don't know you that well) but the fans are not blind and they can see facts for themselves.
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Old 30-07-2009, 10:18   #9199

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Becouse so called "positive" people in here are people who are afreid to see the truth of Milans future. Kaka' said his and Milan's plans were not going in the same directions. Which means Milan will not invest and play for trophys, and that is what KAka' wanted in his career, he said it milion times. Even, with that, he was ready to stay...

I told you right after I saw Berlusconi is selling Kaka' that this club is done untill Silvio leaves. No money will be inserted and best players will be sold. Milan couldnt guaranteed 1st team to Gourcuff? hahahaha, get real. Visit to France was an aliby flight for the fans. Clause in Yoan's contract was inpurpose to get more money this summer.

Milan will not be a top club untill Silvio sells it. He will take the money out of it as long as he can and will not take care of Milan's reputation anymore. If the man who runs the club doesnt do his work and doesnt care, fans need to protest and claim his resignation. But no...lets be optimistic. I will not beg, those of you who dream of great Dinho and super Pirlo can go and pay 50 euro to see Milan, I will not give anymore money to Berlusconi.
very good post... how can we get milan to have the samestructure like Barca?
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Old 30-07-2009, 10:21   #9200

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The Inter game is on the 30th, probably at 20:30.
So it will finish at like 22:30. If we do get a hardcore hammering - which we will - Berlu will have less than 26 hours to realize we are sh1t and buy us what Leo wants.

He will have more time if we get a nice beating from Siena.... assuming he realizes that we sukkk
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Old 30-07-2009, 10:23   #9201

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Wow, talk about being biased. You can talk trash about the majority of the forum and I could not be a sarcastic about what you said? Whatever, man, that is not important. But keep in mind that, if you use a rude tone in your writing, people are allowed to fight back.

Here is the real issue. I understand that you do not wish milan to become the next leeds, lazio or parma, but you seem to be missing one very important aspect of the issue here. Those teams you mentioned were not actual superpowers and stretched themselves far too thin financially to compete with the big boys in europe. The result was that they doomed themselves as they could not keep up with the constant greater revenue inflow of the major powerhouse teams. Milan, on the other hand, is a powerhouse team, or at least was. They are at least in the top 10 in terms of team revenue in the world. That means, with proper management, they can utilize their high income level to at least compete with the other powerhouse teams rather than acting like a Serie B team in the market. When the majority of the powerhouse teams run in red, there is no reason or excuse for milan to go off talking about how they are smarter than everyone else and wants to balance the books at all cost. The fact is, pro soccer as a sport has issues because the only way to win is by running in red all the time, so don't hate the players, hate the game. This is how professional soccer teams have to do to stay competitive and there is nothing milan can do to change it no matter how much you believe so.

As far as asking Italians goes, it just so happened that I recently went on a trip to Italy. And all I can tell you is, though prices there aren't cheap, they are not that much worse than Switzerland and France (the other two countries I went to). You can sit there and cry all you want, but the fact still remains that Inter and Juve are doing a hell of a good job in the market in the exact same financial atmosphere. So, don't go around and act like everybody else is crazy and you are the only rational one, because you might have more knowledge than everybody else (or you don't, i don't know you that well) but the fans are not blind and they can see facts for themselves.
After reading this post and the one before... I came to the conclusion that if all top teams are in debt, they will be relegate in their league and will not be in CL.

That means, Milan will win the league and CL when all these big debt clubs can't even get into the competitions. Berlu is a genius for making Milan champions by not spending a cent. BRAVO BERLU.....
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Old 30-07-2009, 10:32   #9202

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Milan will not be a top club untill Silvio sells it. He will take the money out of it as long as he can and will not take care of Milan's reputation anymore. If the man who runs the club doesnt do his work and doesnt care, fans need to protest and claim his resignation. But no...lets be optimistic. I will not beg, those of you who dream of great Dinho and super Pirlo can go and pay 50 euro to see Milan, I will not give anymore money to Berlusconi.
The guy is soon 73, has had a pacemaker for quite a while now, and takes perversely high doses of ''blue-pills'' very often.... he will die sooner or later.

And his ''children'', who are not at all as fanatic as Berlu claims to be, will sell the club directly since they know they will just have to pay monies. At that point the Arab sheik who bought us will be willing to make us great again.
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Old 30-07-2009, 10:38   #9203

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Wow, talk about being biased. You can talk trash about the majority of the forum and I could not be a sarcastic about what you said? Whatever, man, that is not important. But keep in mind that, if you use a rude tone in your writing, people are allowed to fight back.

Here is the real issue. I understand that you do not wish milan to become the next leeds, lazio or parma, but you seem to be missing one very important aspect of the issue here. Those teams you mentioned were not actual superpowers and stretched themselves far too thin financially to compete with the big boys in europe. The result was that they doomed themselves as they could not keep up with the constant greater revenue inflow of the major powerhouse teams. Milan, on the other hand, is a powerhouse team, or at least was. They are at least in the top 10 in terms of team revenue in the world. That means, with proper management, they can utilize their high income level to at least compete with the other powerhouse teams rather than acting like a Serie B team in the market. When the majority of the powerhouse teams run in red, there is no reason or excuse for milan to go off talking about how they are smarter than everyone else and wants to balance the books at all cost. The fact is, pro soccer as a sport has issues because the only way to win is by running in red all the time, so don't hate the players, hate the game. This is how professional soccer teams have to do to stay competitive and there is nothing milan can do to change it no matter how much you believe so.

As far as asking Italians goes, it just so happened that I recently went on a trip to Italy. And all I can tell you is, though prices there aren't cheap, they are not that much worse than Switzerland and France (the other two countries I went to). You can sit there and cry all you want, but the fact still remains that Inter and Juve are doing a hell of a good job in the market in the exact same financial atmosphere. So, don't go around and act like everybody else is crazy and you are the only rational one, because you might have more knowledge than everybody else (or you don't, i don't know you that well) but the fans are not blind and they can see facts for themselves.
Good points, but you're forgetting that we are not a big club anymore. We will be in a dogfight with Sampdoria I think this year.

The Juves, Inters, Barcas, and Reals of this world are the big clubs. We can only feed on Real's scraps. We are pathetic. We should look with envy at the big clubs because we cannot compete with them in any department.

We have to get this in our head, if we are not to be disappointed. Until Berlusconi decides to get the hell out of this club (I don't even care what he has done in the past), our club will remain a minnow mired in hellish political calculations.
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Old 30-07-2009, 10:58   #9204

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Milan consider sijder if Pirlo goes , why do I bother its on Goal.sh1t id take it though ...WATCH THIS SPACE.
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Old 30-07-2009, 10:59   #9205

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Good points, but you're forgetting that we are not a big club anymore. We will be in a dogfight with Sampdoria I think this year.
You sound like Andy Gray. This makes your signature funnier because it's making fun of you too, now.
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The Inter game is on the 30th, probably at 20:30.
So it will finish at like 22:30. If we do get a hardcore hammering - which we will - Berlu will have less than 26 hours to realize we are sh1t and buy us what Leo wants.

He will have more time if we get a nice beating from Siena.... assuming he realizes that we sukkk
Gio, Quite frankly i don't think what Leo wants will help milan not under any circumstances. Remember Leo is still a new comer for coaching and honestly after watching yesterday's game i am sure this guy is still missing loads to be called coach, i know we were playing crap but still you can see that from the field.
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Old 30-07-2009, 11:02   #9207

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You sound like Andy Gray. This makes your signature funnier because it's making fun of you too, now.
Hehehe...

We have to resign ourselves to hopelessness because the club itself does not want to remain ambitious. Why bother hoping then? If things work out, great. If not, then it is par for the course.

However, my excessive pessimism is not completely unfounded. We have been mercilessly taken apart by all and sundry this pre-season. Our glorious president took a break from his sordid activities to inform us that we will not buy players who earn a lot--that is, players who have real quality. Our former best player has just announced he was sold because his ambitions did not match Milan's. I don't think he is completely blameless, but it makes you think that things are looking very very bleak. Also, our former captain, who gave everything to his club, was vilified by semi-literate thugs upon his farewell.

As for Andy Gray, he may actually look like Tim Vickery over the next few seasons if he forecasts Milan's demise as boldly as he did.

So...yeah...

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Old 30-07-2009, 11:04   #9208

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damn, i just found out we have another game today, it is vs boca.
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Heinze Signed with Marseille.
other news braida and galliani are staying in germany to finalize Dzeko's deal. (bull****)
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damn, i just found out we have another game today, it is vs boca.
funny. i used to wait milan every weekend and miss my work on UCL games but now they have a game right now but i don't feel like watching them
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