Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by pirlofanusa

Di Silvestri is both young and very talented, i would love to have him, Pandev has talent, he is good but not great. Ledesma is ok, but not rally all that consistent. If we good get a decent price for them + get rid of oddo, i think i would do the deal, it would add some depth that we are currently lacking

Maybe we should still go for Hernanes as well....but may be overcrowding the squad.

Originally Posted by Arjun

Maybe we should still go for Hernanes as well....but may be overcrowding the squad.

if we sell pirlo, we should add him too. if not, i would prefer Hernanes to Ledesma

Originally Posted by Arjun

I didn't really watch Lazio too many times last season. Is Di Silvestri as good as everyone says he is? I was also wondering if it would make sense for Milan to just make a triple bid for Ledesma, Di Silvestri and Pandev for Oddo + Cash.

Di silvestri is probably as hot as Santacroce, he was rated in the top 10 talents in the world last year. offcourse he is off standard right now but this young man has alot to learn and alot to offer as well. so i say we take him because he is the natural replacement for zambrotta in the NT

Originally Posted by pirlofanusa

if we sell pirlo, we should add him too. if not, i would prefer Hernanes to Ledesma

I remember when being asked about his first season in Italy, Pato said that the match was more physical, and he openly said that Ledesma chose to kick him and tried to provoke him the whole match. Considering that, I don't think we'll after Ledesma. After all, IMO he's not the quality player we need

What I find interesting over the past days is the fact that none of you are calling Pirlo a traitor or a sell out, and a lot of you are stating that Pirlo is the reason why Milan's tactic is very static. Although I agree with that, but I still find it strange how some of you still call Kaka is a traitor or a sell out and that the team was relying on him too much for the others to actually perform.

Personally, I just think Milan wants to sell anyone who is still worth something in the market. Yes, they manage to keep Flamini and Pato for now but I won't be surprise at all if those two leave next summer after the WC.

For me Gorcuff shouldnt have been sold in the first place. That was a big mistake and given a chance i think getting him back wud be worth a deal. And am not sure y we are chasing fabiano. he s old and at the most he wud perform for this season. But wat after that?? We are not looking 5 years down the line. We need someone like Dzeko or Rossi young and who are passionate about playing for Milan. It would be nice if we could get di selvestri and pandev too. They are smart and young lads. I really dont understand what Berlu and Uncle Fester are thinking???

Thats b/c they are business men and not fans. They could careless if Milan is in CL or not as all they want is to balance the book.

Originally Posted by tim_milan

For me Gorcuff shouldnt have been sold in the first place. That was a big mistake and given a chance i think getting him back wud be worth a deal. And am not sure y we are chasing fabiano. he s old and at the most he wud perform for this season. But wat after that?? We are not looking 5 years down the line. We need someone like Dzeko or Rossi young and who are passionate about playing for Milan. It would be nice if we could get di selvestri and pandev too. They are smart and young lads. I really dont understand what Berlu and Uncle Fester are thinking???

man please don't compare pandev to fabiano. fabiano is 28 and he is a class. pandev still needs alot to reach fabiano's calibre and he is already 26. this guy literally carried brasil over his shoulders when no one was available

Has Pirlo ever asked for his contract to be reviewed? How many times was Kaka's contract revised (ie how many times has his salary been increased)?

Kaka left Milan because we could no longer pay him what Real or Man City offered to pay him. If he chose to stay, he's still be here.

Originally Posted by rt9

Has Pirlo ever asked for his contract to be reviewed? How many times was Kaka's contract revised (ie how many times has his salary been increased)?

Kaka left Milan because we could no longer pay him what Real or Man City offered to pay him. If he chose to stay, he's still be here.

RT9 back to the end of 2007/2008 campaign pirlo's agent claimed that pirlo is a superstar and his salary should be as same as kaka. yes many times pirlo's agent hinted to get a pay raise.

Originally Posted by Arjun

I didn't really watch Lazio too many times last season. Is Di Silvestri as good as everyone says he is? I was also wondering if it would make sense for Milan to just make a triple bid for Ledesma, Di Silvestri and Pandev for Oddo + Cash.

He's a player with very high potential, that has been one of the few plus points of Lazio over the past 5 years. He's still got to go a long way to become great though.

Of the Lazio players, he's the only one I'd take, I'm not at all keen on Pandev and Ledesma.

Originally Posted by Lebanese

RT9 back to the end of 2007/2008 campaign pirlo's agent claimed that pirlo is a superstar and his salary should be as same as kaka. yes many times pirlo's agent hinted to get a pay raise.

Thanks for replying for me.

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

He's a player with very high potential, that has been one of the few plus points of Lazio over the past 5 years. He's still got to go a long way to become great though.

Of the Lazio players, he's the only one I'd take, I'm not at all keen on Pandev and Ledesma.

To me, I think he is abit overrated as he has not really done much. In a way, he just reminds me of all those young IT defenders coming up, always claims to have great potential but only 1/50 of them can actually reach that level. Just look at Bonera, Baragzi, Legro, Zaccardo, Moretti......

Zarate is probably the only one I would take from Lazio, if there is a choice.

Yes, of course agents are going to ask for more money for their clients--that's their job. But I repeat my question: How many times has Pirlo's contract been revised, and how many times has Kaka's?

My personal suspicion is that Kaka's dad shops him around (esp to Real Madrid) every summer and then comes back to Milan with the best salary offer he can get. Then we're forced to match it, or else his son will ask to leave. How else can you explain all those ridiculous flirtations with Real Madrid while he was under contract with us.

From memory none of this happened with Pirlo. I dont think it's fair to compare the two.

Originally Posted by Acmir^

He wasn't a starter last season because he fell out with the coach, not because he 's not good enough

He is a 25 year old that is still considered a "talent". He is considered that since he can sometimes do some great things, but mostly does not help the team. There is a reason no big team have gone for him.

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

Yes, but let's look at Chelsea who you described as running on a deficit. The last time I heard about them (and it was big news here in the UK), they're covered by Abramovich, but that is viewed as essentially a debt to the owner (maybe without interest, but at something like £500m it's a considerable amount). If Abramovich wishes to then turn around and retrieve his money, who's to stop him?

I am not that into economics, but I guess what you are saying is that Roman could possibly take out a loan that he puts on Chelsea to take back money he invested and with that putting the club in the same situation as ManU and Liverpool. It probably won't happen, if he gets tired he will sell the club. Now they at least don't have to pay any interest. Clearly the lack of money they invested now the last years is a sign he won't pump in as much, not strange considering how much he lost of his fortune.

Originally Posted by Arjun

I didn't really watch Lazio too many times last season. Is Di Silvestri as good as everyone says he is? I was also wondering if it would make sense for Milan to just make a triple bid for Ledesma, Di Silvestri and Pandev for Oddo + Cash.

Don't listen to everyone praising him as the saviour. He was in fact not a starter for the whole of last season. He's got great athletism and a good offense, but the reason he was benched was because he couldn't defend well. Clearly more exciting than Oddo though, whom can't defend nor attack.