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Old 10-08-2009, 13:32   #10216

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TRUE.I am happy with having Storari in goal,no problemo for me.Its not the goalkeeper but the defense that has to be right,and with Nesta,Silva and a new decent FB instead of the weak defending Janku that cant stop Maicon,Storari should rescue it.
Storari has had a decent pre-season. We do generally have a lack of quality in the GK department, so Storari should be our number 2 until Abbiati comes back.
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Old 10-08-2009, 13:35   #10217

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Lebanese, seriously, its not about whether everything has an end. In the end its all about respect. Just because he's been going downhill doesn't give anyone the right to slander everything that the man has done for this club for the past 9 years. If you read into Filipéz's comment, I'm sure you'll be just as doubtful about his knowledge of football, as well as his love and objective knowledge about the team.
dont push it man!! becouse you rate kaladze higher than me you are the better milan fan? lol
+ he wasnt always in the team like you/someone said. he had a few very injury prone seasons and we also had a serginho and a certain Maldini who pushed him to the bench
I've been watching Milan almost every Milan game for years now, taking days off from work, visiting san siro... etc, so dont call me a fake fan becouse I dont rate kaladze as one of the greatest defenders! I think we all deserve more respect than this, it is by no means fair to call someone a fake fan becouse you dont know anything about me!
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Old 10-08-2009, 13:43   #10218

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Storari has had a decent pre-season. We do generally have a lack of quality in the GK department, so Storari should be our number 2 until Abbiati comes back.
i think Storari should be Number 2 instead of Dida and keep Abbiati as number 1 even when Abbi is back
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Old 10-08-2009, 13:46   #10219

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Lebanese, seriously, its not about whether everything has an end. In the end its all about respect. Just because he's been going downhill doesn't give anyone the right to slander everything that the man has done for this club for the past 9 years. If you read into Filipéz's comment, I'm sure you'll be just as doubtful about his knowledge of football, as well as his love and objective knowledge about the team.

Lets face it, how many teams can boast about having squads of players that have won more than one champions league medal? I mean, entire squads. These guys are legends in their own rights.

Having a go with Kaladze just shows how ignorant the man has been about the club in general for the past decade, if you catch my drift.
i do man, but honestly let us face it, this guy is no longer the same guy we all knew (injures, form dip, speed issue) this guy is not even a decent back up for our starting defense, so from a tactical point of view i think the best option for us is to let him go since favalinho comes ahead of him.
from a financial point of view kaladze salary ain't this low its around 3.5 mil a year and he still got 2 years left on his contract so if you add up two years plus tax that gives you 14 mil gross. i don't think you like the figure
we all agree and respect Kaladze's history but this guy ain't helping us any more and we got the best of him.

but i totally agree with your point about respecting any player who wear our jersey.
btw every fan has his own view at things, players and team as a whole. for me i really don't care what kind of players we have or who comes in or goes out. for me its milan that matters. winning a trophy or battling for relegation its all the same trust me.
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Old 10-08-2009, 13:51   #10220

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i think Storari should be Number 2 instead of Dida and keep Abbiati as number 1 even when Abbi is back
Which is what I just said . Good you agree. Neither Kalac nor Dida fill me with confidence.

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Old 10-08-2009, 13:57   #10221

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Which is what I just said . Good you agree. Neither Kalac or Dida fill me with confidence.
same here. Abbiati-Storari-Dida-Kalac

I would also try to sell (for free?) Dida as he has sky high wages for a 2nd/3th goalkeeper.
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Old 10-08-2009, 14:11   #10222

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i do man, but honestly let us face it, this guy is no longer the same guy we all knew (injures, form dip, speed issue) this guy is not even a decent back up for our starting defense, so from a tactical point of view i think the best option for us is to let him go since favalinho comes ahead of him.
from a financial point of view kaladze salary ain't this low its around 3.5 mil a year and he still got 2 years left on his contract so if you add up two years plus tax that gives you 14 mil gross. i don't think you like the figure
we all agree and respect Kaladze's history but this guy ain't helping us any more and we got the best of him.

but i totally agree with your point about respecting any player who wear our jersey.
btw every fan has his own view at things, players and team as a whole. for me i really don't care what kind of players we have or who comes in or goes out. for me its milan that matters. winning a trophy or battling for relegation its all the same trust me.
Actually, thats the worrying thing.
I don't doubt the fact that Kala is past his best, but the fact that Favalli is the next best option to our starting defence just goes to show how bad we need decent backup. Seriously, the stats speak for themselves, we've lost how many goals on our pre-season tour when both of our starting defense were not in the line-up?
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Old 10-08-2009, 14:23   #10223

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I think it is too good!!!!

Can you imagine in 3 days we have to go to Madrid playing and return to face Inter?
And three days before it we will be getting hammered by Siena
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Old 10-08-2009, 14:29   #10224

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Actually, thats the worrying thing.
I don't doubt the fact that Kala is past his best, but the fact that Favalli is the next best option to our starting defence just goes to show how bad we need decent backup. Seriously, the stats speak for themselves, we've lost how many goals on our pre-season tour when both of our starting defense were not in the line-up?
yup we need 1 more back up cb or talented cb to be introduced gradually to the squad. nesta-silva is currently the best pair cds around, i mean around the globe don't make fun
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Old 10-08-2009, 15:07   #10225

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yup we need 1 more back up cb or talented cb to be introduced gradually to the squad. nesta-silva is currently the best pair cds around, i mean around the globe don't make fun
We should get Esposito from Lecce as our talented young CB.He is a very good and decent player already,and can play with Nesta and Silva in Serie A,but we could develop him in a very good player for CL.He is just 21/22 years old and Italianhe even scored that lastgap header against us,with Lecce
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Old 10-08-2009, 15:10   #10226

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We should get Esposito from Lecce as our talented young CB.He is a very good and decent player already,and can play with Nesta and Silva in Serie A,but we could develop him in a very good player for CL.He is just 21/22 years old and Italianhe even scored that lastgap header against us,with Lecce
I agree, I thought he would be a great addition. Problem is, so did Genoa. They bought him.
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Old 10-08-2009, 16:39   #10227

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A player like VDV is not cover for anyone. This guy is starting material and will come at that sort of a price range. At present our "cover" is Di Gennaro, who honestly is looking like crap. I'd rather we play Pirlo as trequartista every once in a while or give our young Nigerians (Harmony and Odu) more chances.
Cover doesn't exactly mean that he will be benched when Seedorf is available. In Milan you always have to prove your worth and if a new player plays better than an existing player, the new player will start.

I am not specifically lobbying for VDV as I think he cannot play in the position we need him to play in. He won't be expensive as he is the last midfielder Madrid want. He was also bought by Real for 13 million euros. He can leave Madrid for 10 million euros which I believe is fair price for a player of hil caliber. I would rather prefer Sneijder in that position but unfortunately he is too expensive.

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In the CM position we need a player who can do a 1-2 Dinho or support him in the attack with crosses, long balls and assists. Right now, only Seedorf is that kind of a player. If Seedorf, Dinho or both of the get injured, we will have another alibi for not winning. Di Gennaro has simply sucked in this preseason. I don't like to use harsh word but that is the reality. He cannot be trusted. Harmony and Odu haven't played enough in Serie A to even begin becoming a full time back up for any of our players.
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Old 10-08-2009, 16:46   #10228

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We should get Esposito from Lecce as our talented young CB.He is a very good and decent player already,and can play with Nesta and Silva in Serie A,but we could develop him in a very good player for CL.He is just 21/22 years old and Italianhe even scored that lastgap header against us,with Lecce
Dutchie honestly i want leo to give albaratezzi??? a chance! we already conceded like 20 goals in 6 appearances so it doesn't really matter if you start with a youngster in your defense since you are trying things.
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Old 10-08-2009, 16:53   #10229

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Dutchie honestly i want leo to give albaratezzi??? a chance! we already conceded like 20 goals in 6 appearances so it doesn't really matter if you start with a youngster in your defense since you are trying things.
True,but Albertazzi went with the Primavera to Spain instead of staying with the first team,so i doubt........but i really also want to see him get a chance also,but IMO i was talking about a CB and Albertazzi is more a FB
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Old 10-08-2009, 18:08   #10230

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man kaladze won everything for us. he was the main reason we won the champions league 2003 and 2007. but thats life you can no longer trust a slow error prone defender, any fan would hate it. a bandwagon fan or a hardcore milan fan like your self. just tell me mr. ultras how did you feel when you watched kaladze against inter this year ? 2nd leg
the biggest issue i have with kaladze is his wages....


did you guys know he earned over 4 million a season. That ends up costing milan 8 million a season (double for taxes). Thats more than gattuso (since he restructured) more than ambrosini, more than literally everyone except dida (another problem), pirlo and ronaldinho. The reason we r in debt is because sqaud players like kaladze are earning star money.

Both kaladze and dida have shown little interest in restructuring the way gattuso has. And quite frankly, serie A does not generate the revenue to carry players like this. Its because of players like kaladze and dida, earning star money with no return we had to sell kaka.
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