Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by ZvonimirBoban

About Giancarlo: $hit, I always knew that guy had problems.

About Motta: 10-15M maybe too expensive for us (T_T), I'd prefer a younger De Silvestri with currently assumed cheaper price.

Lol like u were there

Motta is probably the best IT RB beside Zambro.
He is only two yrs older that DiSlivetri, and it a much better player than him by a mile.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Motta is probably the best IT RB beside Zambro.
He is only two yrs older that DiSlivetri, and it a much better player than him by a mile.

yeah, he just seems like the perfect WB for Leo's system. I wish we could sign him

Originally Posted by pirlofanusa

Motta is a much more complete player than De Silvestri... i would spend the extra dough to get the better player

today. Motta is also 23 and de silvestri is 21. 2 years ago di silvestri was starting at ss nazio as a teenager. He was regarded as best fb prospect IN THE WORLD. He had a bad relationship w/ dellio rossi otherwise no way he'd be sold. Motta is solid but de silvestri could be special.

The way i liken it... motta looks like he could be next pannucci or favalli... solid defender. De Silvestri is widely regarded as 'next zambrotta'... he knows how to fly up and down the flank, has a rocket left and in todays football, attacking FB's r a must especially since we lack width...like all attacking fb's he overshoots some but that comes w/ exerience

Originally Posted by pirlofanusa

yeah, he just seems like the perfect WB for Leo's system. I wish we could sign him

Motta? no no no. De Silvestri is a wingback.... motta is a good fullback but he doesnt get up, cross or shoot like de silvestri. Plus de silvestri just turned 21... the amount of growth from 20 to 23 is huge. motta is 23

edit: Im not saying i wouldnt want motta, but ive had my ye on de silvestri for 2 years now. He is widely regarded as best italan player of his generation and a huge talent.... yeah he may not be as good as motta now, but in 2 or 3 years he'll be miles better

The thing with IT defenders/WB/FB are that when they are young and showed some sort of promises, they are hail as the the next big thing, b/c they are IT. Kind of like Brazil Strikers, as long as they are Brazilian and showed promises at a young age, they will become the next so and so.

What I am trying to say is that unless De Silvestri really comes out and shows he can play at a consistent level. He is still prospect and not a true star.

As for saying Motta is like Pannucci, thats not a bad comparsion as Pannucci is a pretty solid player even at 36.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

The thing with IT defenders/WB/FB are that when they are young and showed some sort of promises, they are hail as the the next big thing, b/c they are IT. Kind of like Brazil Strikers, as long as they are Brazilian and showed promises at a young age, they will become the next so and so.

What I am trying to say is that unless De Silvestri really comes out and shows he can play at a consistent level. He is still prospect and not a true star.

As for saying Motta is like Pannucci, thats not a bad comparsion as Pannucci is a pretty solid player even at 36.

i think that is a good point. Some players have been billed as the next big thing, such as Bonera. Motta is a really good player, I'm not saying De Silvestri cant be a really good player, but Motta is already the real deal

Originally Posted by pirlofanusa

i think that is a good point. Some players have been billed as the next big thing, such as Bonera. Motta is a really good player, I'm not saying De Silvestri cant be a really good player, but Motta is already the real deal

motta had a great 3 months of form. None of you were interested till february/march

de silvestri had same thing in 07/08... and to be fair wasnt poor in 08/09... he just fell out w/ the coach and didnt play.

and fyi, roma's defense conceded 61 goals (only relegation teams were worse).... both pannucci and motta were part of it

@Lebanese: Yes I WAS there.

I'd take De Silvestri over Motta anytime. They have 2 years margin between them and if you put it in context (21 and 23) that's huge.

I know Roma is better than Kalac, and that GKs are genrally older, but the concept of actually buying a 35 year old (They will try to have him for more than 1 year, bcs they paid his transfer fee as well) in a team which has enough seniors to start with is crazy on MGT's part..... Call me ungrateful, but all our conerted efforts so far with the acquisitions of Beretta, Zigoni, Abate and DiGenarro seem to be blown to dust with this recent buy..... Sure, I wanted Kalac to go, but to replace him someone older?

P.S: DiGenarro is not too bad, and has not been given much playing time so far..... Thing is, his preferred position almost renders him useless to our side......

Motta is not ours anyways...... However, considering our targets, DiSilvestri would be great!

Originally Posted by Milano84

motta had a great 3 months of form. None of you were interested till february/march

de silvestri had same thing in 07/08... and to be fair wasnt poor in 08/09... he just fell out w/ the coach and didnt play.

Good point but Santon only played 6 months too and last year today, if you say Santon is a better player than Albertazzi, I don;t think anyone would agree with you.

The point is that at least Motta made it as a starting player in Serie A, while De Silvestri still has not make that jump yet.
As for Roma conceding alot of goals, that does not means Pannucci, Mexes, Juan and Motta. IF thats the case, why would you want De Silvestri as Janku, Favalli, even Kala and Senderous played in Milan defense last year and pls remind me how many goals Milan conceded and how many did Lazio?

Originally Posted by ZvonimirBoban

@Lebanese: Yes I WAS there.

I'd take De Silvestri over Motta anytime. They have 2 years margin between them and if you put it in context (21 and 23) that's huge.

To me 21 and 23 is not a huge difference, just look at Senderous.

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

I know Roma is better than Kalac, and that GKs are genrally older, but the concept of actually buying a 35 year old (They will try to have him for more than 1 year, bcs they paid his transfer fee as well) in a team which has enough seniors to start with is crazy on MGT's part..... Call me ungrateful, but all our conerted efforts so far with the acquisitions of Beretta, Zigoni, Abate and DiGenarro seem to be blown to dust with this recent buy..... Sure, I wanted Kalac to go, but to replace him someone older?

P.S: DiGenarro is not too bad, and has not been given much playing time so far..... Thing is, his preferred position almost renders him useless to our side......

i agree, this would have been a good chance to grab a keeper for the future. i still wish we could make a deal like Abs+ ~1-3 mil for Marchetti. that would be fair for both sides