Summer mercato 2009

Well, maybe by next year, MIlan will be sold to another person, who will actually pay for players. I just hope that the new owner get Moggi as the new GM.
Then Milan will really rue the Transfer market with a team of Champions.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Well, maybe by next year, MIlan will be sold to another person, who will actually pay for players. I just hope that the new owner get Moggi as the new GM.
Then Milan will really rue the Transfer market with a team of Champions.

That can only happen if Berlusconi sells Pato this winter. He hasn't taken all the money he can take out of this club yet so he is not going to quit. It is truly sad that we can't even buy the best RB in German for 8 million euros and still talking about winning championships.

Juventus lose Nedved who was past his best still good.
They sign.
1) Cannavaro
2) Melo
3) Diego
4) Rafinha , subject to confirmation.

Inter lose Ibra huge loss as they have no savior against small teams yet!!
They sign
1 )Milito
2) Motta
3) Lucio
4) Eto + 40 million
5) Sneijder , apparently he has agreed to sign.

Milan we lose Maldini , Kaka , Gourcuff , Carlo no need to say how vital 3 of these were and how good one could of been.
We sign.
1) Onyewu , no great potential not even a good bench player but can head a ball and is as big as a wrestler , taken because he is free.
2) Huntelaar , great potential a good player could be great.
3) Flavio Roma , an upgrade from Kalac nothing more.
4) Silva not signed this summer but looks good.

And we are talked to like idiots by MGT great team great champions yadda yadda yadda. The arrivals of Abate who looks good , De Gennaro who isnt a top quality player are not new signings.
We have been bullsh1tted to all summer money disappears and we can't afford players for 6 - 8 million. And then these idiots keep saying that no one has won more trophies in the world than us my god that is a lie , Real Madrid have and haven't Boca Juniors overtaken us again.

I know you guys all know all the info above but looking at it all down it show's that we are a pitty. No one else is running at a profit and while it is good to be , it just makes us non competitive . I must be going through a bad day but Im just not confident about the new season. 2 injuries and we are in serious trouble.

No team goes through an injury free season , and it dosnt have to be long term . If Pato , Dinho or Nesta and Silva miss 3 or 4 or 5 games at the same time that could put us out of the title race or a CL spot.

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

Juventus lose Nedved who was past his best still good.
They sign.
1) Cannavaro
2) Melo
3) Diego
4) Rafinha , subject to confirmation.

Inter lose Ibra huge loss as they have no savior against small teams yet!!
They sign
1 )Milito
2) Motta
3) Lucio
4) Eto + 40 million
5) Sneijder , apparently he has agreed to sign.

Milan we lose Maldini , Kaka , Gourcuff , Carlo no need to say how vital 3 of these were and how good one could of been.
We sign.
1) Onyewu , no great potential not even a good bench player but can head a ball and is as big as a wrestler , taken because he is free.
2) Huntelaar , great potential a good player could be great.
3) Flavio Roma , an upgrade from Kalac nothing more.
4) Silva not signed this summer but looks good.

And we are talked to like idiots by MGT great team great champions yadda yadda yadda. The arrivals of Abate who looks good , De Gennaro who isnt a top quality player are not new signings.
We have been bullsh1tted to all summer money disappears and we can't afford players for 6 - 8 million. And then these idiots keep saying that no one has won more trophies in the world than us my god that is a lie , Real Madrid have and haven't Boca Juniors overtaken us again.

I know you guys all know all the info above but looking at it all down it show's that we are a pitty. No one else is running at a profit and while it is good to be , it just makes us non competitive . I must be going through a bad day but Im just not confident about the new season. 2 injuries and we are in serious trouble.

No team goes through an injury free season , and it dosnt have to be long term . If Pato , Dinho or Nesta and Silva miss 3 or 4 or 5 games at the same time that could put us out of the title race or a CL spot.

Juventus did well replacing Nedved but I'm not convinced by Melo and Cannavaro. I don't like their team one bit, their only bright sparkle is Giovinco.
As for Rafinha, it appears Juve cannot sign another non-EU player (Diego + Melo ?), according to Goal. http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/trans...-alessio-secco

As for Inter, well apart from Lucio I am not really impressed by their signings either, even if Sneijder comes. IMO he is a great player but he has to take his skills to a new level if he wants to lead a squad like Inter, where there is no creative player other than him. I don't think he can do that, he's definately not the right man for the job, he needs to be surrounded by players who can move the ball around well and be creative, in order for him to have an impact.
Inter bought good players, but no superstars like Ibrahimovic. Eto'o? Great forward but without 10.000 passes from Xavi or Iniesta he won't score that much.
What Inter did was increase their depth, which no doubt is good but I don't think they have any more individual quality than last year. Still they are the best team in Serie A, that's for sure.

As for us I completely agree we have had one of the worst mercato's in recent years. Huntelaar is our only "good" signing, I don't consider Silva as a new signing. But perhaps it's unfair to say we lost Gourcuff as he never really made an impact, so you can't really say we missed him.He might be great in Bourdeaux, but he could suck in Milan again. (Gila syndrome)

Injury is indeed our biggest competitor this year.

Originally Posted by ThrusT

But perhaps it's unfair to say we lost Gourcuff as he never really made an impact, so you can't really say we missed him.He might be great in Bourdeaux, but he could suck in Milan again. (Gila syndrome)

Injury is indeed our biggest competitor this year.

I dont want to be rude, I will comment strictly on the technical issue of football, not on you personally:

It is absolutely visible and clear Gourcuff is a complete and class player who we have lost due to our unprofessional behaviour from Galliani and Ancelotti towards the player. His class is visible from every game he plays. Good eye for football is shown when you watch players play in smaller leagues and not when someone says "well Ibrahimovic is a great player".

As far as Im converned Gourcuff was a huge and horrible mistake made by Galliani, Ancelotti and in the end Berlusconi.

Again, I dont want to insult you personally, Im just commenting from technical point of wiew. Cheers man.

we have to stop talking about gourcuff. he is gone and won't come back.

let's focus on players we have and others that might come.

Secco: Rafinha is not our objective.

milannews.it

milannews.it are saying that we'll most likely try to terminate Oddo's contract and try for Adriano (The full back) today, maybe during the CL draw?


Today, AC Milan will try the final assault to end by presenting a thinning in Monaco, during the Champions League draw, to meet the emissaries of Seville with whom to discuss the sale of Adrian, as is known, entered into route collision with the coach Jimenez. But this operation, with Oddo anchored his two-year agreement, could be perfected through a supply-borrowing expensive. Besides, even the hypothetical negotiation with West Ham (exchange with Behrami) does not seem to have positive outcome. The former AC Milan and Lazio will remain, however, reject any other case, a fortiori the termination of the contract.

Originally Posted by mrki

It is absolutely visible and clear Gourcuff is a complete and class player who we have lost due to our unprofessional behaviour from Galliani and Ancelotti towards the player. His class is visible from every game he plays. Good eye for football is shown when you watch players play in smaller leagues and not when someone says "well Ibrahimovic is a great player".

Again very biased post, Mrki.
It will "absolutely visible and clear" when he does something big in a big league or with French NT in a big competition.
Until then he's just a good player with potential.

And one more thing about this player. When Leonardo and Galliani went to France to speak to him, they knew Kaka is about to leave for Real Madrid and probably told him that he'll get more playing tome.
They couldn't guarantee a starting spot but told him he''ll get his chance. He refused. Why? Probably because he's a pu$$y.
He would much rather stay in Bordeaux, be their star player and never again face such stiff competition like in Milan. So be it.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not. Time will tell.

Originally Posted by El Fre

Again very biased post, Mrki.
It will "absolutely visible and clear" when he does something big in a big league or with French NT in a big competition.
Until then he's just a good player with potential.

And one more thing about this player. When Leonardo and Galliani went to France to speak to him, they knew Kaka is about to leave for Real Madrid and probably told him that he'll get more playing tome.
They couldn't guarantee a starting spot but told him he''ll get his chance. He refused. Why? Probably because he's a pu$$y.
He would much rather stay in Bordeaux, be their star player and never again face such stiff competition like in Milan. So be it.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not. Time will tell.

To be fair, if I am in Gourcuff shoes, I would not come back to Milan, even if they promise me they will build the team around me......
1. Pride and ego. As Milan never showed they want Gourcuff back until he start hitting form in Feb. Thats already too late.
2. Kaka is leaving. To be honest, Gourcuff is not stupid, as he knows that Dinho is still around and Berlu loves Dinho. Also, I am sure he knew Dinho is a fav of Berlu. Where will he play then? If Galli and Leo told him Seedorf, Kaka and Dinho are all leaving, thats another story.
3. He is doing well with Bordeaux and into the CL....why does he wants to leave to Milan? Put it this way, you are doing well at your company and all is great with International expansion.... would you switch to junior position in an already established International firm in another country.

But enough with Gourcuff, as he is not going to come back

OK, Gabriel I see your point. But i don't agree with you

It is hard for me to understand when someone isn't ambitious.
Football players want to win trophies, want to play at big clubs. Very few choose to stay in a small club. I understand it's a safe environment but where's the challenge?!

I'm glad you mentioned that business example because I just transfered from a small Audit company to a big Audit company (one of the Big4)... everything was working for me, but I wanted more. You understand? I can do better. I will start as a junior, but in time I will achieve more there. That's why I can't understand him. If he knows he's good, than he's confident that he will show his class to the new coach and earn his place in the team.

But enough. You're right, he's not coming. Luckily we have Seedorf

Originally Posted by mrki

I dont want to be rude, I will comment strictly on the technical issue of football, not on you personally:

It is absolutely visible and clear Gourcuff is a complete and class player who we have lost due to our unprofessional behaviour from Galliani and Ancelotti towards the player. His class is visible from every game he plays. Good eye for football is shown when you watch players play in smaller leagues and not when someone says "well Ibrahimovic is a great player".

As far as Im converned Gourcuff was a huge and horrible mistake made by Galliani, Ancelotti and in the end Berlusconi.

Again, I dont want to insult you personally, Im just commenting from technical point of wiew. Cheers man.

No, that's not the point of it mrki. In my definition, a "LOSS" is when you lost something that makes you achieve something in the past, and with you lost it, you can't or will be harder to achieve that same thing. The example is Inter LOST Ibra (there will be no more saviour against minnows!), Milan LOST Kaka' (he singlehandedly won us CL, okay), etc. But this kid never made impact for team. Maybe if he stays here, he will make impact or he will not, but he did not make it yet, so it's technically (TECHNICALLY) not a LOSS.

According to Football Italia Rafinha is a non-EU player and Juventus have no space to sign more non-EU players this year.

Some people speak again about Gourcuff ... so, again, I think Gourcuff made a rationnal choice regarding his career.

Anyway, his father talked about that some days ago and said that after the meeting between Gourcuff and our beloved Galliani and our, at this moment, next coach, Leonardo, Gourcuff doubted a lot and actually thought a lot about coming back to Milan whereas this idea never came in his mind for the 7-8 months before.

It's after a discussion with Bordeaux management and his father that he decided to stay in Bordeaux as, from what say Christian Gourcuff, Milan already lied to his son in the past and so it was better to stay in Bordeaux where the same promises that Milan made were already reality.

All that comes from Christian Gourcuff, the closest person in Gourcuff's entourage.

Topic closed for me about Gourcuff except if next year we try to take him back ...

Originally Posted by GeoTav

It's after a discussion with Bordeaux management and his father that he decided to stay in Bordeaux as, from what say Christian Gourcuff, Milan already lied to his son in the past and so it was better to stay in Bordeaux where the same promises that Milan made were already reality.

I cannot understand what things we can't give to him. First-team place?

Ooooo... maybe MONEY. WAGE. We promised to him we would pay him BIG and suddenly we should balance the books, he did not have BIG MONEY we promised to him and he LEFT.

But that's just my hypotheses... Not a well-researched one, I may say.