kris

kris · 01-09-2009, 02:58

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Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

We may need more than 4th place if Germany overtakes Italy in the coefficient ranking this year. Not outside the realm of possibility:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...crank2010.html

That thing comes a season later. We can't lose the 4th UCL team this season, but Italy can lose it for the coming season. At any rate there is needed a good performance from the Italian teams and the one with the most pedigree is us, but we ain't looking to good.

kris · 01-09-2009, 03:00

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Originally Posted by zakakhan

with 2m price, Not bad player either, Where is Milan management???????

On the other hand, I seriously would not want another 30+ over the hill fullback on our books. We kind of have loads of those.

Filipéz 182 · 01-09-2009, 05:24

grosso to juve, so what. we dont need him, grosso is overrated and would again be a 30+ player. we need to look at cissokho/Rafinha type of players!

guestes · 01-09-2009, 06:07

Rafihna to bayern?

Jay Crisp · 01-09-2009, 06:38

Dzeko , Fabiano , Fabregas , Hernanes , Miranda , Criscito , Rossi , Rafinha , Cissokho , Diamanti , These are what we were linked with all talk to sell papers and get hits. We were are and will be pathetic I won't stop following but maybe the fact we are ordinary I will get used to not expecting anything , and begin to enjoy watching football again without expecting anything from Milan.

Where are the 15 - 20 players we need in the next 3 years. That is not an exaggeration we have 15 players 30 and way over , plus at least 5 under 30 that are just no good.

It will be funny in afew years when we are denied entry to any competion because we only have a squad of 5.

devoted_dm · 01-09-2009, 07:05

So Spalletti is available on the market, after resigning at Roma...

It's not that I don't believe in Leonardo. I think he will be a great coach at some point in the future. But he is not what Milan needs right now. If we had a squad full of world class players, we could afford to gamble on an inexperienced coach, but the way things are now, we need someone who is 100% sure of what he's doing. I would love it if we hired him.

Hasan Rossonero · 01-09-2009, 07:05

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Originally Posted by kris

That thing comes a season later. We can't lose the 4th UCL team this season, but Italy can lose it for the coming season. At any rate there is needed a good performance from the Italian teams and the one with the most pedigree is us, but we ain't looking to good.

You may be right, and I suspected that. Though I read in a reputable source that may take effect immediately. Either way, Italy has to beat Germany by a substantial margin. The good thing is that these points take into account both competitions (CL and Europa), so hopefully Genoa, Lazio and Roma do well also.

ACMILAN1983 · 01-09-2009, 07:24

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Originally Posted by devoted_dm

So Spalletti is available on the market, after resigning at Roma...

It's not that I don't believe in Leonardo. I think he will be a great coach at some point in the future. But he is not what Milan needs right now. If we had a squad full of world class players, we could afford to gamble on an inexperienced coach, but the way things are now, we need someone who is 100% sure of what he's doing. I would love it if we hired him.

I don't think Spalletti's the right man for us if I'm honest. I've read rumours about there apparently being all sorts of problems in the squad, with some of the senior players not listening to Leo and apparently Dinho is falling out of favour with others too. We already know of the preseason training event where Seedorf told Dinho to work harder with Tassotti stepping in. I wonder if there's something quite a bit deeper than we know.

If we are to replace Leo, we need a hard tactician that won't tolerate any indiscipline.

K77SH C · 01-09-2009, 09:08

Il stand by Leonardo.

No manager could cope with this mess. If Ancelotti found it hard to qualify for the CL two years straight with Kaka and Maldini the leader, then what do you guys expect of Leonardo.

No coach can fix this, Berlusconi or a new buyer are the only ones who could do anything.

Reza · 01-09-2009, 09:18

I posted something similar earlier...I have to agree with K77SH C, I seriously hope this doesn't turn into a Leonardo this and that, even if players don't like him for some reason. Coaching uncertainty on top of all our problems and we will finish in bottom half...

El Fre · 01-09-2009, 09:52

I can't believe some posters here are blaming Leonardo. It was just like this with Ancelotti.

NO ONE can make a cake from sh!t. NO ONE.

We got rid of one of the best coaches out there who is now getting great results with Chelsea. It wasn't his fault then, and it isn't Leonardo's fault now.

You can rotate those idiots as much as you want, but at the end of the day, they are still crap. Zambro left, Zambro right, Abate here, Abate there, Janku FB, Janku ML, Ambro or Gattuso....it makes no difference.

rt9 · 01-09-2009, 09:57

No this can't be Leo's fault. He asked for a wingback, almost got Cissokho, then got nothing. He asked for a targetman and got his 3rd choice. I'm sure he wanted Hernanes as well....

We've had god knows how many poor transfer campaigns now...B and G need to take responsibility, there's no one else to blame.

Vulli · 01-09-2009, 10:16

At 19 yesterday, 31 August 2009, has officially closed the summer session of the Italian market.

Here is the economic balance of the 20 clubs in Serie A at the end of negotiations between acquisitions and divestitures.

Atalanta: spent 12.5 million euros, income 17.5 million = + 5 million

Bari spent 7 million, income 0 million = - 7 million

Bologna spent 11.5 mln, income 0.5 mln = - 11 million

Cagliari spent 14.5 mln, income 1.5 mln = - 13 million

Catania spent 11.5 million, income 1 million = - 10.5 million

Chievo spent 2.5 million, income 0.5 mln = - 2 million

Fiorentina spent 17 mln, income 45 mln = + 28 million

Genoa spent 72 million, income 37 million = - 35 million

Inter 64 million spent, income + 101 million = 37 million

Juventus spent 52 mln, income 15 mln = - 37 million

Lazio spent 28 mln, income 12 mln = - 16 million

Livorno spent 4 million, income 7 million = + 3 million

Milan spent 30 mln, income 85 mln = + 55 million

Napoli spent 56 million, income 8 million = - 48 million

Palermo spent 14 million, income 5 million = - 9 million

Parma spent 13.5 million, income 14.5 mln = + 1 million

Roma spent 3.5 million, income 21.5 mln = + 18 million

Sampdoria spent 12 mln, income 8.5 mln = - 3.5 million

Siena spent 15 mln, income 20 mln = + 5 million

Udinese spent 12 mln, income 40 mln = + 28 million

rosoneri_11 · 01-09-2009, 10:25

interesting list.
But where we spend the 30M?

K77SH C · 01-09-2009, 10:43

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Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

interesting list.
But where we spend the 30M?

Thiago, Abate, Huntelaar, Boriello I think.

Look how much Napoli and Genoa spent.

01-09-2009, 06:07	#11494
guestes Registered User Join Date: 06 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Fave Players: Abbiati, Flamini	Rafihna to bayern? __________________ Galliani laughed: “I don’t know what his face looks like. Mine is ugly and is a Rossoneri face…”

01-09-2009, 09:08	#11499
K77SH C Registered User Join Date: 06 2004 Location: England Fave Players: Kaka, Gourcuff and Cissokho	Il stand by Leonardo. No manager could cope with this mess. If Ancelotti found it hard to qualify for the CL two years straight with Kaka and Maldini the leader, then what do you guys expect of Leonardo. No coach can fix this, Berlusconi or a new buyer are the only ones who could do anything. __________________ Its SPEEDORF actually

01-09-2009, 09:18	#11500
Reza Administrator Join Date: 08 2002 Location: Canada Fave Players: Baresi	I posted something similar earlier...I have to agree with K77SH C, I seriously hope this doesn't turn into a Leonardo this and that, even if players don't like him for some reason. Coaching uncertainty on top of all our problems and we will finish in bottom half... __________________ aka rezag

01-09-2009, 10:16	#11503
Vulli Reuters Milan Correspondent Join Date: 07 2007 Location: Republic of Kosovo Fave Players: Paolo Maldini	At 19 yesterday, 31 August 2009, has officially closed the summer session of the Italian market. Here is the economic balance of the 20 clubs in Serie A at the end of negotiations between acquisitions and divestitures. Atalanta: spent 12.5 million euros, income 17.5 million = + 5 million Bari spent 7 million, income 0 million = - 7 million Bologna spent 11.5 mln, income 0.5 mln = - 11 million Cagliari spent 14.5 mln, income 1.5 mln = - 13 million Catania spent 11.5 million, income 1 million = - 10.5 million Chievo spent 2.5 million, income 0.5 mln = - 2 million Fiorentina spent 17 mln, income 45 mln = + 28 million Genoa spent 72 million, income 37 million = - 35 million Inter 64 million spent, income + 101 million = 37 million Juventus spent 52 mln, income 15 mln = - 37 million Lazio spent 28 mln, income 12 mln = - 16 million Livorno spent 4 million, income 7 million = + 3 million Milan spent 30 mln, income 85 mln = + 55 million Napoli spent 56 million, income 8 million = - 48 million Palermo spent 14 million, income 5 million = - 9 million Parma spent 13.5 million, income 14.5 mln = + 1 million Roma spent 3.5 million, income 21.5 mln = + 18 million Sampdoria spent 12 mln, income 8.5 mln = - 3.5 million Siena spent 15 mln, income 20 mln = + 5 million Udinese spent 12 mln, income 40 mln = + 28 million Last edited by Vulli; 01-09-2009 at 10:21.

01-09-2009, 05:24	#11493
Filipéz 182 Registered User Join Date: 06 2003 Location: Poppel City (belgium) Fave Players: Flamini, Pato, G.Rossi, T.Silva, Hazard, Lukaku	grosso to juve, so what. we dont need him, grosso is overrated and would again be a 30+ player. we need to look at cissokho/Rafinha type of players!

01-09-2009, 06:38	#11495
Jay Crisp Registered User Join Date: 06 2009 Location: Cork , Ireland Fave Players: Maldini , Boban , Van Basten , Pato , Albertini ,	Dzeko , Fabiano , Fabregas , Hernanes , Miranda , Criscito , Rossi , Rafinha , Cissokho , Diamanti , These are what we were linked with all talk to sell papers and get hits. We were are and will be pathetic I won't stop following but maybe the fact we are ordinary I will get used to not expecting anything , and begin to enjoy watching football again without expecting anything from Milan. Where are the 15 - 20 players we need in the next 3 years. That is not an exaggeration we have 15 players 30 and way over , plus at least 5 under 30 that are just no good. It will be funny in afew years when we are denied entry to any competion because we only have a squad of 5.

01-09-2009, 07:05	#11496
devoted_dm Registered User Join Date: 09 2000 Location: Norway Fave Players: Pirlo, Nesta, Gattuso and Roberto Baggio	So Spalletti is available on the market, after resigning at Roma... It's not that I don't believe in Leonardo. I think he will be a great coach at some point in the future. But he is not what Milan needs right now. If we had a squad full of world class players, we could afford to gamble on an inexperienced coach, but the way things are now, we need someone who is 100% sure of what he's doing. I would love it if we hired him.

01-09-2009, 09:52	#11501
El Fre Registered User Join Date: 08 2006 Fave Players: Zorro, KK, Maldini, Weah	I can't believe some posters here are blaming Leonardo. It was just like this with Ancelotti. NO ONE can make a cake from sh!t. NO ONE. We got rid of one of the best coaches out there who is now getting great results with Chelsea. It wasn't his fault then, and it isn't Leonardo's fault now. You can rotate those idiots as much as you want, but at the end of the day, they are still crap. Zambro left, Zambro right, Abate here, Abate there, Janku FB, Janku ML, Ambro or Gattuso....it makes no difference.

01-09-2009, 09:57	#11502
rt9 Registered User Join Date: 05 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Fave Players: marco van basten, rui costa, kaka, pirlo	No this can't be Leo's fault. He asked for a wingback, almost got Cissokho, then got nothing. He asked for a targetman and got his 3rd choice. I'm sure he wanted Hernanes as well.... We've had god knows how many poor transfer campaigns now...B and G need to take responsibility, there's no one else to blame.

01-09-2009, 10:25	#11504
rosoneri_11 Registered User Join Date: 01 2006 Location: I'm behind you! Fave Players: P.Maldini,Gattuso,Van Basten	interesting list. But where we spend the 30M?

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