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Old 29-10-2009, 12:49   #1

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Well after that painfull but deserved two lastminute goals of Napoli we are going to face a very good and inform team at San Siro saturday: Parma.

They came from Serie B and together with Bari they are suprising everybody with their good football and high place on the standings.They have great players like Mariga,Panucci,Biabiany,Bojinov and of course: Alberto Paloschi(!)

Like i said they have a great squad who should make it in Serie A,also they have a very good mix of old guards and energetic youngsters,when i saw them play against Inter in San Siro they were very dangerous on counterattack.

Paloschi has scored 4 goals,the same amount as Pato.

We are in decent form,we have beaten Real Madrid in Bernabeu,played good in Chievo second half and deserved the victory and of course it all began against Roma where we came back from a 0-1 score.Against Napoli we of course should have won the game if we were motivated enough to finish it.But things didnt work out that way,to bad!

If things go as planned,we should win this really.We have to make points and if we continue the good play and dont be sluggish this time there shouldnt be a problem,however Parma is in good shape so i dont hope they will suprise us!Still i am counting on a victory!

I dont think we should give players rest,the only players who have to rest is Nesta(depends on injurystatus)and one of Pirlo/Seedorf,the rest should play.

This would be my formation:

Dida;Zambrotta,Silva,Favalli/Kaladze,Antonini;Flamini,Ambrosini,Pirlo;Pato,Borriello,Ronaldinho.

If we are leading then sub Pirlo immediatly for Gattuso or Strasser,Antonini moving to LM is also a good option.

Like i said,we have to win this one!

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Old 29-10-2009, 13:09   #2

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Serie A Week 11: Milan - Parma (Saturday, October 31st at 20.45)

I rarely start a new thread on the forum.......but let me try my luck! I wanted to move on from Napoli and with Parma coming to the San Siro just in 2 days I was surprised no new thread was opened.

Anyhow, moving on to the game.......despite the draw at the San Paolo I think we are in a positive spell. Many of our players are in a positive spell and they need to move in the same direction. Like I said after the game with Napoli, if you only look at the result (2-2) it is a positive thing. If you look at the times that the goals were scored at, then it's not positive. So I would suggest to only look at the score and move on to Parma with confidence.

What we need to do on Saturday is start with the same intensity that we started yesterday. Pin them back and don't give them an outlet. Force mistakes and gain back possession quickly. And IF we score, don't let them off the hook. Juve's game against Samp should serve us as an example. They applied high pressure across the field for the entire game. Melo and Sissoko/Poulsen held a line at midfield and they didn't drop deeper then that. That's where they applied the pressure and 'Doria had so much trouble knocking the ball around. It requires a lot of energy.....but modern football requires energy and if we want anything from this season we have to use our energy.

Just some interesting stats before the game:

Milan -
-2 clean sheets ag home this seaon (3 in total)
-2 home games scoring a goal (5 in total)
-1 home game scoring more then 1 goal (3 in total)
-2 home games conceding a goal (6 in total)

Parma -
-0 clean sheets away (2 in total)
-4 away games scoring a goal (7 in total)
-2 away games scoring more then 1 goal (3 in total)
-5 away games conceding a goal (7 in total)

So Parma always concedes a goal when playing away, but they also almost always score a goal away. The only time they didn't was against Inter (lost 2-0) Other then that:
Atalanta - Parma 3-1
Samp - Parma 1-1
Lazio - Parma 1-2
Udinese - Parma 2-2

Table:

4.Parma - 17pts (12 scored - 12 against)
5.Milan - 16pts (10 scored - 11 against)

*the positions may change depending on the result of Inter-Palermo


It is still early to know how we will line up. I don't expect Nesta to play (it would be stupid to field him this weekend). I expect Flamini to get a full game.
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Old 29-10-2009, 13:12   #3

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Dutchie, you beat me to it.

I guess someone can merge my post/thread into this one......since this one was started first.
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Old 29-10-2009, 15:07   #4

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hahahaha no problems mate,next time its your turn for sure!
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Old 29-10-2009, 15:17   #5

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milan vs parma

after a disappointing draw for ac milan against napoli though they are a good side no doubt about that but i hope they will be able to secure that 2-o win.milan parma if we know that they afre the one ahead of us with a point so i hope we are going to bounce back against them and they should be fully prepared for the big one against real madrid.I URGE AC MILAN VICTORY AGAINST PARMA AND REAL MADRID
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It's a shame that Sandro is going to miss this match since I really want to see how Palo doing against our two best defenders. I never watch Parma's game this season but I must admit I'm impressed with their performance so far.

They have some promising youngsters, but I'll keep a watchful gaze on Palo and Mariga. Let's hope that we keep our focus until the final whistle and not think about the match against RM.
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Old 30-10-2009, 17:04   #7

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MILAN-PARMA: I CONVOCATI ROSSONERI
30/10/2009 17.09.00

MILANELLO - Sono 19 i convocati di Leonardo per la gara di domani contro il Parma:
Dida, Roma, Antonini, Favalli, Kaladze, Oddo, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, Flamini, Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf, Borriello, Huntelaar, Inzaghi, Pato, Ronaldinho, Verdi (n.58).
Giocatori indisponibili: Abbiati, Storari, Bonera, Jankulovski, Nesta, Onyewu, Di Gennaro.
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MILANELLO – These are the declarations of coach Leonardo during the press conference on the eve of Milan-Parma:

ON THE NEXT HOME GAMES “I always said that the fans’ behaviour is a reflection of what we do, so far we’re happier with our results, for what we do, therefore tomorrow at San Siro I expect a more content crowd who will support us.”

ON THE NAPOLI MATCH AND THE TEAM’S MOOD “In the league today we must make mathematical calculations, but looking at everything in the Napoli game we evaluate the performance because the San Paolo, Verona and Madrid matches gave us a lot. Like it happened that we won one in the final minute, it happened that we drew another one in the same way, but if we evaluate the performance of this period I’m satisfied. “I always try to put on the pitch the players according to their characteristics, trying to make them gve their best, in Naples after the game we presented ourselves differently. I don’t think that the equalizer arrived due to our tactics, but for the emotions of the game. Maybe if I had substituted Abate before, I would have avoided the draw, but removing a full-back I would have revolutionized the squad and I put in Borriello. The doubt was between Oddo and Borriello. With hindsight, it would have been better. “There’s self-esteem and I saw the players satisfied, obviously we still have the sour taste of the two lost points there, but we still have the conviction in what we are doing and in our qualities. Today Milan is a team made to always try, then we risk of leaving too much, and therefore we need to be balanced.”

ON THE GOALS CONCEDED IN NAPLES “I don’t think that it’s a coincidence, but it was always fatality because it’s not normal to be winning 2-0 and then conceding a comeback for the 2-2. Surely the expulsion contributed because even Napoli, apart from the first 15 minutes of the second half, had given up hope and we controlled the game. After the red card also the stadium pushed the team forward, Cigarini scored an extraordinary goal which brought a bit of confusion.”

ON RONALDINHO “Today on the newspapers I read that we have a love-hate relationship, but I think that it’s more of love. There’s been a rapport for a long time and I think that his reaction after the match of Naples was positive. I saw him afterwards and I spoke to him in the dressing room, these are nice things because you also need anger. He knows what we need and what he can do. He has always been under the spotlights, now he’s there and needs to be consistent, this is the only thing he lacks. He knows that there’s the need for a preparation for the match, he works during the week so then he goes on hte pitch and gives his best. He knows how much I love him and, just like I do with the other players, I try to put him in the best condition so that he can give his best. Ronaldinho at Naples was well marked and my gesture towards him was to motivate him. With him we found a balance, also in our rapport, there’s clearance. I want that he gives his best because he can give an important contribution. It’s normal for a player to get angry when he is substituted, simply his reaction could have been the result of anger with himself. Why I substitute him often? In attack the players can change the tactical setup of the team and the way to play are those who are substituted most. The same thing happened with Inzaghi: even he was substituted in order to change the tactical setup, it’s not just about Ronaldinho. His way of playing has changed in time. Who ‘ruined’ Ronaldinho was Eto’o’ (he laughts) because he wanted to help him score at Barcelona. He always used his ability to provide assists, then in the past years he changed, but the most important thing is that he finds his balance, I think that he is still able to be decisive. Through the years, the players change and also the way of a team to another changes. At 29 years of age a player has different characteristics to when he had 20 years.”

ON TOMORROW’S FORMATION “The idea is that of maintaining a line, but after four games of this ‘block’ we must think about dozing well the energies. I must evaluate today certain situations and then I will decide. Tomorrow Nesta will not play, luckily he does not have any lesion, we’ll see if he recovers for the Champions League game and if he will be called up for Parma. For the rest we must manage at our best the energies until the next break. Tomorrow Gattuso will be called-up, after the first matches he felt a bit problems to his knee, but in the past week he worked a lot physically and now he’s completely available.”

ON THE 4-3-3 FORMATION “In the moment of difficulty, this tactic contributes also to the players to have a different behaviour or input. If the players who play in midfield like Seedorf, Pirlo, Flamini understand the need to do certain things to be of support for the team it’s useful. The same thing is valid for the attackers, therefore I think that the way in which we are playing can be of help for the players.”

ON PARMA “The match against Napoli did not change anything despite the equalizer towards the end, I see the team motivated in the same way. Tomorrow’s game is one of those matches in which anything can happen, today is difficult to understand before the game what will happen, but everything is very open like we saw in the matches of this week. Parma will come here in a good moment of form and will play their game.”

ON HUNTELAAR “Surely the goal for an attacker is fundamental, but I still see him calm. It’s normal that he is judged, he arrived this year, but I think that his moment will arrive.”

ON THE DECLARATIONS OF ADRIANO GALLIANI ON THE ARRIVAL OF DAVID BECKHAM “Think about the transfer market now is difficult and sincerely we know that there will not be big changes now. I consider Beckham as if he has always been here because he was only away for six months, therefore he will be a player who will contribute a lot, also inside the group. The players care a lot about him.”

ON PALOSCHI “This year Paloschi in Serie A with Parma has done well, just like he did last year. He inspires himself to Inzaghi and has the feeling for the goal. Tomorrow we will have to be careful, he will play against his team, therefore for him it will be a particular situation. At Parma he is doing very well, but it’s not just Paloschi, there’s also Bojinov. Parma is a team who is trying to find its balance. Palochi today is a lad who had the opportunity to play at Parma, to grow. This is good for him and we’ll see for us, in the future.”

ON THE GHANA PLAYER ADIYIAH “I followed the entire Under 20 World Cup. The idea is to aim on the young players, giving continuity to what we thought at first that was important. We have also inserted some lads from the primavera team and in the long period it could be a useful thing. The transfer market is a strange thing, many times it’s situations which present themselves.”

ON THE MATCH AGAINST REAL MADRID “Today we must think about the game against Parma, we saw how much a game can weigh upon another. Tomorrow we shall play at home after three away games and returning to San Siro to find the affection of the fans will be an important thing for us.”
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Old 31-10-2009, 05:36   #8

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Less than 10 hours to kickoff and 7 posts. Lol.

Anyway. I hope Leonardo can get the right mentality to our players. Against Roma, Madrid and Chievo we only got our game on in the 2nd half. Versus Napoli we had the spirit right from the start (and a very generous Neapolitan defense), but then we stopped playing. We have to play with spirit through out the whole game.

Luckily Nesta's injury isnt anything grave, but it is right to rest him tonight to save him for the Real 'get-pounded-by-3rd-division-team' Madrid. As such, I would like to see:

Zambro/Oddo - T Silva - Kaladze - Antonini

Antonini has been good when he played lately. For the right flank I am a bit uncertain, Zambro or Oddo? Zambrotta has been bad lately, but then he has played on the left. Oddo has actually been good for his standards lately (ignoring his glory-days), so I dunno.

For midfield I dont know what to expect. We really have to rest Seedorf and Pirlo. Sure, they might be able to pull this game off, but what happens when we play Real Madrid? Maybe the wise thing to do is play 2 DMs and one of Seedorf/Pirlo, giving each one half to play. But if we are playing two mediani then one of them has to be Flamini, since he can actually contribute to our passing play.

For offense I want Borrigol. Parma will be closed back in their own half, and Borri's sheer physicality will be superior to what Huntelaar or Superpippo can offer. (against Real, who will be offensive minded, maybe Hunter and Inzaghi can be productive)
Dinho would need some rest too, but we really have no other options, as long as we want to play Leo's 4-3-3.

As long as we play with some kind of spirit for the WHOLE game, I am confident we will take home all three points. I would want more than just "some kind" of spirit, but lets face it, that isnt gonna happen tonight. But "some kind" will be enough for a win, imho.
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Old 31-10-2009, 06:03   #9

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I begin to wonder how long Seedorf and Pirlo wil go without an injury, and if Leo will rest either or both of them, considering that we have Madrid in the UCL next week.

I think its imperative, with so many matches in succession, that Leo look to do without either or both of them, as even if they don't succumb to some injury or another, sheer fatigue will cause a dip in form.

We also have an increasing injury list at present, almost at crisis levels as it stands, so we can scarcely afford to lose any more players.

Interesting stats posted previously...with no Nesta, we are bound to concede...so its a matter of ensuring we keep ahead in the scoring, and yes, that we do manage to actually score...

Huntelaar may very well start this game, and I hope for his, and our sakes, that he does find the back of the net...

Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst...

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Old 31-10-2009, 06:10   #10

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I begin to wonder how long Seedorf and Pirlo wil go without an injury, and if Leo will rest either or both of them, considering that we have Madrid in the UCL next week.

I think its imperative, with so many matches in succession, that Leo look to do without either or both of them, as even if they don't succumb to some injury or another, sheer fatigue will cause a dip in form.

We also have an increasing injury list at present, almost at crisis levels as it stands, so we can scarcely afford to lose any more players.

Interesting stats posted previously...with no Nesta, we are bound to concede...so its a matter of ensuring we keep ahead in the scoring, and yes, that we do manage to actually score...

Huntelaar may very well start this game, and I hope for his, and our sakes, that he does find the back of the net...

Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst...

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With or without Nesta, we've conceded too many goals so far ...
All great teams have either an excellent defence or an amazing team-play to score (and the best teams have both).

Nowadays, we have neither one nor the other ... our team-play is good but only in some moments, and when the other teams have the ball then, we don't concede because we've been lucky or because our GKs saved us ... we let our opponents having good chances to score in all games, it's miraculous that we don't concede 4 goals per game !!

Anyway, let's hope our guys will react after the disappointing end of game in Napoli !!

Parma, be afraid, Il Diavolo will be back !!
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My choice:

----------------Dida----------
-Oddo--Thiago---Kaladze-Zambrotta-
---------Flamini---Ambrosini---
---------------Pirlo-----
------PAto--------Dinho------
------------Huntelaar-----

Of course I do know this will not be a formation and I dont know who is 100% fresh etc. But I'd bench Seedorf as I know we need him 200% fit for CL game. I'd play Pirlo is a position See played vs Napoli, and Hunter as a CF.

Also, I was disgusted by the way Seedorf moved vs Napoli. Our midfield suffered for 85 min coz he never stepped up to recover into the line of 3 man mid to defend. We defended with 2 mids, and without NEsta we sat back and couldnt play our defence higher ) which gives us an option of pressing in the middle). But Seedorf did NOTHING! I do not understand how he has no shame in walking around and looking at Pirlo-Ambrosini fighting to cover entire midfield. Today that is not an option!

P.S:

Lets take note on MAriga's play...
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My choice:

----------------Dida----------
-Oddo--Thiago---Kaladze-Zambrotta-
---------Flamini---Ambrosini---
---------------Pirlo-----
------PAto--------Dinho------
------------Huntelaar-----

Of course I do know this will not be a formation and I dont know who is 100% fresh etc. But I'd bench Seedorf as I know we need him 200% fit for CL game. I'd play Pirlo is a position See played vs Napoli, and Hunter as a CF.

Also, I was disgusted by the way Seedorf moved vs Napoli. Our midfield suffered for 85 min coz he never stepped up to recover into the line of 3 man mid to defend. We defended with 2 mids, and without NEsta we sat back and couldnt play our defence higher ) which gives us an option of pressing in the middle). But Seedorf did NOTHING! I do not understand how he has no shame in walking around and looking at Pirlo-Ambrosini fighting to cover entire midfield. Today that is not an option!

P.S:

Lets take note on MAriga's play...
Yes yes, good formation. I woukdn't be surprised if Leo would play Flamini further up the field, and play Ambrosini as a traditional holding mid. Still I bet Seedorf is gonna play, he's great, but he really needs a rest.

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Old 31-10-2009, 10:13   #13

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P.S:
Lets take note on MAriga's play...
Mariga is not called for the match...i guess he's still injured
so we can concentrate on following Paloschi and....Bojinov (excellent duo they have there)

and for Gio-mania...i know dude, it's incredible how little posts there are for this game...seems many are already on the Madrid game...i just hope the players are not :s

please give us a 90+5 minutes of consistent solid football for once....plzzzzz
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Zambro-KK-Thiago-Antonini
Gattuso-Pirlo-Flamini
Pato-Hunter-R80

Subs: Borrielo, Seedorf, Ambrosini.


3-1 we win.
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sigh, we're going for the same formation in the mid,

ambro - pirlo - seedorf (thats like their 5th consecutive game)
pato - hunter - r80
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