Banter 2009/2010

Originally Posted by Lebanese

he developed no one!.

Kaka was called for 2002 world cup. he was someone who was expected to hit big and he broke through. (first training session, ancelotti said he just trained a champion)

Pato he got all the hype in the world and he was expected to score 30 goal

Pirlo it was not ancelotti, maybe bresica

Gattuso, what are you talking about gattuso can't even pass the ball. aside from his defensive ability and determination i cant see gattuso as a midfielder.

is this sarcastic or are you serious?

I think you are sarcastic becouse otherwise it is a big load of bullsh*t!!!
Carlo is a great coach who did many great things for Milan, including the development of some players!! especially pirlo and kaka!

Originally Posted by mrki

Brk, lets not start the discussion about how Carlo didnt develop Kaka', Pato, Rinho, Pirlo

About the Ghanian U20 player - we will use the non eu spot AGAIN on a player that is not one that can help us immediately!!! This man is a project and will need time and for sure will not make an instant impact. I've heard he is a sub in his club. No?

Im sure Leo also had something to say about this young player. We'll see, Im not that familliar about him and his qualities but Im dissapointed Milan didnt decide to go for players like Hernanes ( to play in front of Pirlo-Flamini !! ), Giuliano, Diogo ( LB - that showed he could be a GREAT player for the future with a bit of strict training ), Douglas Costa ( If we need a player for wing!) etc.

But those players cost money, and we AGAIN dont want to spend.

If we are only ging to sign young and unproven players our future is NOT bright. That is a road for Arsenal, not AC Milan!

You want young players Galliani? Clichy, Fabregas, Giuliano, Gourcuff, Criscito...here you go, fix the team with those.

Im not happy with this. Lets hope I will be wrong.

You're f***ing crazy, pal. He is the top scorer of U-20 World Cup, best player, and was in the winning team, an AFRICAN side (which never won a single world cup)!

Do we have any video of Adiyah in action?

Here's all I could find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga0QQN2mPQ8

Edit: It seems to me like he's going to be the Pato deputy. Let's hope he gets time to shine.

Adiyiah is our first signing, and for moment, they say that he will be in the first team to rotate with Ronaldinho and Pato. Let's wait until January to be sure about that, do you remember what Galliani (and Leonardo) said about Albertazzi and Zigoni ?

Beckham should come back in January, so our midfield roster will be more complete as Leonardo will be able to rest Pirlo (or Seedorf) sometimes ...

That will lead us to a midfield composed of these players:
Pirlo, Seedorf, Flamini, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Beckham => 6 players for 3 places.

These two signings shouldn't cost us too much, so maybe we will be able to buy a fullback (my preference goes for a LB, we could put Zambrotta and Oddo on the right, the new LB and Antonini for the left). Abate could be used as a winger then which is his natural position, and he could be used to rotate with Pato and Ronaldinho too sometimes, like Adiyiah.

With the possible come back from injury of Bonera sooner or later, that will add a player for our defence too ...

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Adiyiah is our first signing, and for moment, they say that he will be in the first team to rotate with Ronaldinho and Pato. Let's wait until January to be sure about that, do you remember what Galliani (and Leonardo) said about Albertazzi and Zigoni ?

Beckham should come back in January, so our midfield roster will be more complete as Leonardo will be able to rest Pirlo (or Seedorf) sometimes ...

That will lead us to a midfield composed of these players:
Pirlo, Seedorf, Flamini, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Beckham => 6 players for 3 places.

These two signings shouldn't cost us too much, so maybe we will be able to buy a fullback (my preference goes for a LB, we could put Zambrotta and Oddo on the right, the new LB and Antonini for the left). Abate could be used as a winger then which is his natural position, and he could be used to rotate with Pato and Ronaldinho too sometimes, like Adiyiah.

With the possible come back from injury of Bonera sooner or later, that will add a player for our defence too ...

Yes I agree, lets not expect anything from this kid, if he delivers then that will be a wet dream come true.

Not the biggest Beckham fan, but he will provide an alternative for Seedorf who can rest or play in Pirlo's position to allow Pirlo to rest.

One athletic, fast, dynamic and strong fullback will be great!!

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Adiyiah is our first signing, and for moment, they say that he will be in the first team to rotate with Ronaldinho and Pato. Let's wait until January to be sure about that, do you remember what Galliani (and Leonardo) said about Albertazzi and Zigoni ?

Beckham should come back in January, so our midfield roster will be more complete as Leonardo will be able to rest Pirlo (or Seedorf) sometimes ...

That will lead us to a midfield composed of these players:
Pirlo, Seedorf, Flamini, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Beckham => 6 players for 3 places.

These two signings shouldn't cost us too much, so maybe we will be able to buy a fullback (my preference goes for a LB, we could put Zambrotta and Oddo on the right, the new LB and Antonini for the left). Abate could be used as a winger then which is his natural position, and he could be used to rotate with Pato and Ronaldinho too sometimes, like Adiyiah.

With the possible come back from injury of Bonera sooner or later, that will add a player for our defence too ...

If we can keep our current form up until January I think we will be in pretty good shape. If we can bring a FB in (Motta please) to go with Becks and Adiyah I think we can threaten the rest of the season. I hope that Zigoni, Verdi, Albertazzi, and Strasser get a chance to should what they can do at some point this season

pirlofan, Motta will not come for the same reason Giovinco won't come. They are young and very bright Italian prospoects. There is no way they will sell them at this age to their rivals. Maybe Motta could be bought but it will be something like 15m euro, they will not sell him at 5m, no way. Anyway I hope you forget about him because you've been talking about him for ages and you make it sound like its so easy to get him, but trust me - he ain't leaving anytime soon.

I'm very disappointed that we are getting an unproven player like Adiyah to be a striker for us in January, especially considering the fact that he will take our last Non-EU spot. That Non-EU spot could have been so useful to us by buying some of the many promising fullbacks in South America or we could have gotten a great player in Hernanes to revolutionize our midfield. Adiyah at this price, is an amazing bargain and a great steal - however he should be loaned out and and he should not be taking our last Non-EU spot, this is ludacris. The idiots haven't learnt their lesson from Viudez.

Cassano could be available soon ...
It looks like he was whistled by a small part of the Sampdoria supporters during the game against Bari, and he declared that he heard them and that he would be able to leave like he did in Roma and like he did in Madrid ...

So, for example, if we were to get him, that would be good news, but like our fans are also able to whistle sometimes their own players ... he could leave very quickly Milan !!

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

pirlofan, Motta will not come for the same reason Giovinco won't come. They are young and very bright Italian prospoects. There is no way they will sell them at this age to their rivals. Maybe Motta could be bought but it will be something like 15m euro, they will not sell him at 5m, no way. Anyway I hope you forget about him because you've been talking about him for ages and you make it sound like its so easy to get him, but trust me - he ain't leaving anytime soon.

I'm very disappointed that we are getting an unproven player like Adiyah to be a striker for us in January, especially considering the fact that he will take our last Non-EU spot. That Non-EU spot could have been so useful to us by buying some of the many promising fullbacks in South America or we could have gotten a great player in Hernanes to revolutionize our midfield. Adiyah at this price, is an amazing bargain and a great steal - however he should be loaned out and and he should not be taking our last Non-EU spot, this is ludacris. The idiots haven't learnt their lesson from Viudez.

There has been a rumor that Roma is considering selling him to Juve for around 7 million. If they would be considering Juve, then why not us? and the "lesson" from Viudez should be not to release a player with talent when he could easily be loaned out or play with our U-21s. He also played well in the U-20 tourney. It was foolish to sign him and then dump him so easily.

and like the reason we probably wont get Motta is because we dont want to spend money. Thats the same reason that Adiyia was probably the best we are going to do because the other players you mentioned cost money

How many of you have been talking about Hernanes for months? if he is so easy to get why havent we gotten him? if he is so talented then why hasnt another top club bought him? we should all probably forget about him. Im being a bit sarcastic but what I am trying to say is that if a player is talented that usually makes it difficult to buy them. But not impossible.

Roma is in bad debt. That is one of the main reasons they sold Aquilani, he was one of their best players. Motta has been out of favor since they switched coaches. If they can get money for him, the only players that I dont think can be bought are Totti and De Rossi. Other than that, they can likely be had

Motta is overrated. He's nothing special.

Originally Posted by brk

Motta is overrated. He's nothing special.

You would know about overrated considering how much you love Dinho

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Adiyiah is our first signing, and for moment, they say that he will be in the first team to rotate with Ronaldinho and Pato. Let's wait until January to be sure about that, do you remember what Galliani (and Leonardo) said about Albertazzi and Zigoni ?

Beckham should come back in January, so our midfield roster will be more complete as Leonardo will be able to rest Pirlo (or Seedorf) sometimes ...

That will lead us to a midfield composed of these players:
Pirlo, Seedorf, Flamini, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Beckham => 6 players for 3 places.

These two signings shouldn't cost us too much, so maybe we will be able to buy a fullback (my preference goes for a LB, we could put Zambrotta and Oddo on the right, the new LB and Antonini for the left). Abate could be used as a winger then which is his natural position, and he could be used to rotate with Pato and Ronaldinho too sometimes, like Adiyiah.

With the possible come back from injury of Bonera sooner or later, that will add a player for our defence too ...

Well, we bought the player who will be on loans for 2-3 years, not so much because he's young and talented but because he came cheap, and we need a SS (full grown player) right now.

For midfield, we do not have 6 players for 3 positions even if Beckham comes, as we do not have a replacement for Seedorf. On DM position we have 3 players. With a system like this we cannot play 2 DMs and a deep-lying play-maker.

And I don't know where's all that full-backs bashing comes from. Oddo was great in defense against Real, Zambrotta is always good, Anotonini is good, Abate is good, Jankulovski will be good when he's fully fit. I mean why spend money on a full-back when we have 5 of them (even 6 if you count Favalli) for two positions and we have NO cover for Seedorf's position and also for Ronny's position.

Cassano even if available will not cost under 25 mil. of euros. We don't have that money. And I think it would be stupid to splash that money on him when we have Ronny in that place, both impulsive, our dressing room would be a ****in war zone. Anyway as we bought that Ghanian, we will not buy a SS, so I really hope will we go for Hernanes or similar player no matter how much it costs. From what I've heard about Hernanes, he is CM/AM who can defend and attack also, so with him Leonardo could switch to 4-3-1-2 with DM - CM (P-M) - Seedorf - Hernanes, when Dinho needs rest.

Little away form transfers, about Serie A, I really think that Juventus is not good enough to fight for Scudetto. Over-hyped Felipe Melo proved to be average, Sissoko and Camoranesi always were more average than good, Diego cannot fit in Ferrara's system, their defense is very vulnerable when Cannavaro is not in the team... I think that until January Juventus will be far from Inter and a possible second placed Scudetto-attacking team, which I honestly hope will be Milan.

Anyway, I think our chances are slim because Inter have more than 20 quality and capable players. I see their lineup week in and week out and it's never the same, always 2 or 3 changes, Mourinho really has a deep squad. Today in away match, he played some kid called Krhin and they've coolly won. And look at our team, our midfiled is always the same and our 4 of 5 midfielders are 30+. Even worse for us, Inter is a team who cannot win in two games against any stronger side in Europe, so they will go down in quarter-finals in CL like last year, maybe even earlier, so they will have only Serie A.

Even without our crucial players injured, we need some fresh blood in midfield.

I'm telling all this not because we're so ****in' good so we can attack Scudetto, but because other teams, except Inter, are weaker than us, and it's a shame that a team like Inter will win 4th title in a row and comparing to our middle 90's team who won 3 in a row they completely suck. Also, this year will surely be last for many of our players, so it's their chance to give their final punch and to finish their blistering careers in style, when the chance has come. We have great first 11, perhaps a CL winning material, clever coach, all we need is some investment and some clever thinking, and of course some luck.

Originally Posted by Revolver

For midfield, we do not have 6 players for 3 positions even if Beckham comes, as we do not have a replacement for Seedorf. On DM position we have 3 players. With a system like this we cannot play 2 DMs and a deep-lying play-maker.

And I don't know where's all that full-backs bashing comes from. Oddo was great in defense against Real, Zambrotta is always good, Anotonini is good, Abate is good, Jankulovski will be good when he's fully fit. I mean why spend money on a full-back when we have 5 of them (even 6 if you count Favalli) for two positions

I dont for a minute believe Beckham has or ever had the class of Seedorf, but he is here to carry out a similar role to the one Seedorf has been doing the last few games. So he is our replacement for Seedorf.

Oddo is a complete waste of space, Zambro is the worst I have ever seen him, Antonini is average, Abate is promising (as a right back), Janku is hated as a fullback on this forum, even though I would like to see him play with a settled Nesta/ thiago pair.

Agree on Cassano.

Originally Posted by pirlofanusa

You would know about overrated considering how much you love Dinho

since you dont like dinho, stop watching recent milan because he is carrying milan over his shoulders! when pirlo hits the form watch again.

Originally Posted by Lebanese

since you dont like dinho, stop watching recent milan because he is carrying milan over his shoulders! when pirlo hits the form watch again.

Why doesnt anyone care when Dinho totally disappears from games? other than the nice assist to Borri he didnt do anything the second, and Borri made a great finish. I think Dinho is very talented but he is also very lazy. A player his age and with his talent should be doing everything he can to get back on the NT for the WC instead of going of and partying and not caring. He played poorly in the Napoli game. To a certain degree yes he is carrying our team, and that is a problem because we are putting all of our trust into a very lazy player that feels that the world should be given to him and doesnt care. thats a huge problem if you ask me

And about Pirlo... when did the Madrid game (and our season) turn around? Oh thats right, it was when Dinho scored from range! how silly of me to forget that. Pirlo is not having his best season, but he has been playing pretty well, and he seems to get bashed all the time whenever he doesnt have a great game, but nobody seems to care when Dinho doesnt do anything. He will play terribly for a few games, do a fancy trick and everyone forgets about the bad games